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    • File:Millisecond pulsar and accretion disk - NASA animation (hi-res).ogv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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      • these are electrical lines of force inside a plasma field, they are the birkeland currents seperated,
        If you stretch the magnetic bands till they break then you have electrical currents.
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        • Something's been bugging me about the Birkeland current's.

          It has to do with how Eric P. Dollard describes how you can hear the magnetic fields using a coil and a earpiece. It's the way he describes the sound you hear when the coil cross the field lines. Which I can’t find at the moment.

          We know that with the Birkeland current, you have: two parallel currents traveling in the same direction, results in the currents attracting each other, forming a spiral (see image above in post 901). The space "caught" in the middle is subjected to extreme compression. Resulting in what is commonly known as a magnetic field.

          By Eric’s description of the sound, simply passing a wire through the Birkeland current (AKA field line), you break the current.

          I'm I making any sense?
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          • Originally posted by Savvypro View Post
            Something's been bugging me about the Birkeland current's.

            It has to do with how Eric P. Dollard describes how you can hear the magnetic fields using a coil and a earpiece. It's the way he describes the sound you hear when the coil cross the field lines. Which I can’t find at the moment.

            We know that with the Birkeland current, you have: two parallel currents traveling in the same direction, results in the currents attracting each other, forming a spiral (see image above in post 901). The space "caught" in the middle is subjected to extreme compression. Resulting in what is commonly known as a magnetic field.

            By Eric’s description of the sound, simply passing a wire through the Birkeland current (AKA field line), you break the current.

            I'm I making any sense?
            Somethings bugging me as well, I just cant seem to understand how the currents are flowing.


            does one side need to be reversed to get the correct flow.
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            • There's something missing in the Birkeland current, where's the opposite spins.
              Everything in nature points to a cw and ccw spin do we have two separate lines of force.
              If so when we split the fields we create two generators one one each side of the coil, since they cant run against each other they have to be looped back to themselves.
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              • Our planets spin is the same as this model, I really believe a pulsar is a magnet spinning end over end.
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                • Magnetosphere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                  The system of tail currents. The magnetotail consists of twin bundles of oppositely directed magnetic field (the "tail lobes"), directed earthwards in the northern half of the tail and away from Earth in the southern half. In between the two exists a layer ("plasma sheet") of denser plasma (0.3-0.5 ions/cm3 versus 0.01-0.02 in the lobes), and because of the difference between the adjoining magnetic fields, by Ampére's law an electric current flows there too, directed from dawn to dusk. The flow closes (as it must) by following the tail magnetopause—part over the northern lobe, part over the southern one.
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                  • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                    There's something missing in the Birkeland current, where's the opposite spins.
                    Everything in nature points to a cw and ccw spin do we have two separate lines of force.
                    If so when we split the fields we create two generators one one each side of the coil, since they cant run against each other they have to be looped back to themselves.
                    That's also been bugging me as well.
                    If the Birkeland current is, as shown in the image above: just two currents going in the same direction. Then maybe the compressed region in the middle is flowing in the opposite direction:

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                    Birkeland current: ---->
                    compressed region: <--
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                    • DNA and Birkeland Current?

                      There's something missing in the Birkeland current, where's the opposite spins.
                      Everything in nature points to a cw and ccw spin do we have two separate lines of force.
                      If so when we split the fields we create two generators one one each side of the coil, since they cant run against each other they have to be looped back to themselves.
                      Dave, do you see a relationship between DNA's spiral helix and Birkeland currents?

                      Without getting too far off track, I am thinking about the spiral helix as a fundamental pattern that might help us in energy research. If we take a spiral helix config and short the ends together, we basically have a spiral-wound shorted bifi setup with cw and ccw 'windings.' It will have its own capacitance, functioning in itself as an LC setup, I think. If you pulse it, it should ring, no? Bedini, somewhere in the first 3 Energy from the Vacuum series, mentions that all life forms take in energy from the ambient to essentially power themselves (I'm paraphrasing). Could this be fundamentally a function of DNA's spiral helix properties interacting with radiant energy all around us?

                      I'm wondering what implications this might have for us with electricity.

                      We know that if you wind single or multiple strands around a tube at 45degree angle, and when you get to the end, wind back at 45 degrees (relative to tube), overtop of the ascending winding, one end is essentially shorted, and you wind up with a caduceus coil, whose cw and ccw windings cancel out its own EM waves, and produces scalar waves. In theory this should produce no reflective losses in a secondary wound overtop.

                      Is it possible that DNA's resonating helical structure is functioning in a similar way, producing scalar waves, energizing the body... something to think about. And what can this teach us about building?

                      I hope I haven't taken your thread to far afield. I find your posts very helpful.
                      Have a good day.
                      Bob

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                      • Hi Bob very interesting post these two images are close


                        the image in wikipedia isnt showing the angular twisting
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                        • I was mistaken, I did not watch the second part of the vid the double disk is the motor.
                          Tariel Kapanadze overunity motor 02 free energy - YouTube
                          It would seem they are using the reverse of this

                          To create a motor, very very interesting.
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                          • If we break a magnet in two pieces we get two magnets, but if we seperate the bands I think we get two monopolar energy sources.


                            We have two generators.
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                              • I just remember something I saw in the saturn vid
                                Amazing HD Video of Planets - Stitched Together from NASA Photos - YouTube

                                This moon is pushing outward on the bands, that means the energy is an outward force.......why didnt I see that before.
                                dave

                                It doesnt change the new conception just reenforces it, preconception is a dangerous thing, Iv always been hard headed
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