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  • That's very interesting. Thanks for the link. I, Pet Goat II is also really interesting, did you know that the artist made the movie based on visions he had? This is, of course, a common thing – to be inspired from within – but its interesting in the context of the content this video presents.

    Here's some interesting concepts on gravity I stumbled across that made a little sense to me. I haven't checked the data thoroughly but just sweeped across it and thought this forum might be interested in it.

    Gravity



    Perhaps you can find some interesting stuff there. But really what I wanted to show is two videos:

    The Code by Carl Munck, a researcher digging into mathematical ratios and codes from ancient buildings (Stonehenge, The Great Pyramid)
    Carl Munck - The Code - YouTube

    And Musical Geometry by James Furia, covering the correlations between music and geometry, which both are sides of the same coin; the nature of vibrations.
    James Furia - Musical Geometry - YouTube

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    • @Ralf
      Im sorry but you are wasting my time I will no longer respond to your post's and am putting you on my ignore list.

      Luke 6:45
      A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
      Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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      • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
        I was thinking on Tesla's bifilar coil or a variant of it, for those playing with the zvs might give this a shot.
        ZVS caught my eye

        pardon my ignorance what does ZVS mean?

        it caught my eye because it reminds me of this ... something that was scripted in 1947.



        It is connected to a group called GHREES

        note what I highlighted in YELLOW regarding the snakes... because IF 2 = Z and 5 = S we might have a match made in heaven.



        So Dave do you see the connection between the GHREES graphic and what Tesla was perhaps tinkering with AND of course the Seal of Melchizedek we discussed earlier?



        Because the 2 and 5 allows us to compare to the work of Marko Rodin, the prime numbers 2 and 5, and as a solution to the miracle performed by jesus regarding the feeding of the 5000 using 2 Fish and 5 Loaves of Bread...
        How to feed 5000 people using 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish | Reconciliation of Science and Religion



        selah V
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        • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          @Ralf
          Im sorry but you are wasting my time I will no longer respond to your post's and am putting you on my ignore list.


          The word IGNORE is associated with the word IGNORANT for very good reason tower of babEL bIbLE babbler.

          (on facebook science sites they don't ignore ME, I get banned toot sweet when I start pointing out the wastika NANO applications to the fooking dummies, not once do they debate me on the science, I AM always tagged a Nazi before being banned by the science mobsters....)

          I have no problem Dave with you admitting defeat, but do you object to ME continuing to respond to everything you post, showing the associations that you are in fact ignoring?

          Dave you suffer from cognitive dissonance.
          Most people can be shown to be afflicted by it.

          Your inability to respond to my insightful evidence is in itself evidence of your christian ignorance in these matters of the heart.

          Specifically regarding the seal used for the heart of the buddha, which we know to be the swastika, this you are silent on after also admitting a profound connection between a rotating magnetic field and the wastika??





          Dave will EWE and jesus take offence if ME and the wastika shadow you, follow magnetic U around...?



          The image on the right is the molecular NANO blender (centrifuge) that uses wastika architecture.
          The image on the left is associated with the magnetic field of the earth to which you added the following:

          Originally posted by Dave45 View Post


          The middle one should not be used, should be iron rod, the outer coils also should have an iron rod.
          This should go into the core of a solenoid type coil, a winding on the outside.
          Dave I am curious what is the source of your image?

          AND glory glory glory, apparently the model you are proposing is a model of the magnetic field of the earth too, but whoever sketched the image I AM providing as analogy at least made the center look like a piece of black iron.

          Like I said, and IGNORANT Dave is helping ME prove, it is clear that from the MACRO/big to the micro/small the ASYMMETRICAL wastika seems to have a hand in what makes the world go round.

          selah V
          Last edited by Raphael37; 07-08-2013, 02:43 PM.

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          • Originally posted by unity View Post
            That's very interesting. Thanks for the link. I, Pet Goat II is also really interesting, did you know that the artist made the movie based on visions he had?
            that is interesting...
            here is the vision I had



            Originally posted by unity View Post
            This is, of course, a common thing – to be inspired from within – but its interesting in the context of the content this video presents.
            I have a video too made obviously by a christian.
            He claims the wastika represents Christ. [/B]

            The Christian Swastika on Vimeo
            go to 9:07 of this video for a shocking declaration by a Christian

            What do you think Unity?

            Dave has already said the wastika is related to a magnetic field, what do you think Unity, is the wastika important and related to this conversation about the electric field of a magnet and eventually to a global green unity too?



            But before you answer what is the connection in the QaBaLaH between the Archangel Raphael, Christ, and the heART?
            Where do you find all three doing lunch? (maybe the buddha too?)

            Maybe WHAT IF we find them all represented by the 6th sephiroth called Tiphereth.

            In Christian Cabala, Tiphereth is especially associated with Jesus Christ, 'God the Son' (as opposed to Kether, which is God the father, and Yesod, the Holy Spirit).

            The archangel of this sphere is Raphael. The astrological correspondence is again the sun ...

            Christianity primarily focuses on Tipharet as a driving spiritual force, emphasising the points of love, beauty, self sacrifice and service in its greater aspect. Particularly the Osirian sect and other derivations of pantheistic religions, with their personification of gods, emphasise the unknowable from the standpoint of Yesod.

            The eastern religions, particularly Taoism and Buddhism are more closely related to Kether, with their focus on unity and the indefinable aspect of the Divine.

            Tiferet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
            Yahoo! Groups
            Easy enough to show the correspondence between Kether/Crown and wastika too!

            Originally posted by unity View Post
            Here's some interesting concepts on gravity I stumbled across that made a little sense to me.
            Is gravity connected to the electric field of a magnet?
            Is that why you brought it up?
            To put us back on topic?

            cool

            how about we compare your image to this one here:



            what is the SHAPE of MOVEMENT?

            PhDUH let ME share a simpleton THOTH thought:
            is understanding the SHAPE of MOVEMENT the first step to making predictions of the SHAPE of THINGS to COME?

            Unity how do we associate the CW and CCW wastikas to the idEAS in physics regarding the forces described as centrifugal/radiation and centripetal/gravity?

            Originally posted by unity View Post
            Perhaps you can find some interesting stuff there. But really what I wanted to show is two videos:

            The Code by Carl Munck

            And Musical Geometry by James Furia
            I have come across the work of both men on my journey.
            (and I can give you links to my wordblog showing how their work confirms what 'just is' is too...)

            But neither Carl Munck OR James Furia have acutually invented anything.
            Both fellas are on a quest using the tools and insight given them.
            Both are okay teachers passing on what they know and have recovered.

            TEDxMarin - Jay Harman - An Alternative Cure for Global Warming - YouTube
            But Jay Harman (inventor of the Lily Impeller) who is featured in this video HAS IN FACT found viable applications for his AHAs!
            He has put something on the table we can put to use to our advantage in a positive way...
            PLUS he is also teaching what he knows for what he has recovered as the video is an example of...

            Start watching the video @2:30 for the reader's digest condensed version of what the wastika really represents on a very fundamental level.

            The forces that help make the world go round.
            Jay Harmen is trying to pass on the obvious solutions found in nature.

            Jay is a good teacher, not a preacher.

            selah

            p.s.

            Unity and Dave could you please cast your votes and comment in this POLL here:
            http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...at-closed.html

            Last edited by Raphael37; 07-08-2013, 03:17 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Raphael37 View Post
              that is interesting...
              The Christian Swastika on Vimeo
              go to 9:07 of this video for a shocking declaration by a Christian

              What do you think Unity?
              The discussion material regarding what "Christ" represents is a discussion bigger than this particular topic. The cross often known to symbolize christianity has geometrical correlations as well. The swastika as a geometrical symbol existed (of course) before the Nazis. I just find it problematic how much this thread is spammed solely with this symbol as it a very loaded symbol and is associated with a philosophy I do not want to be associated with. Put it in a more usable context and I shall discuss it further. Why is it of such importance to you? I can see you feel that we dodge this symbol because of its known roots, which is struggling if it bears deeper meaning that you understand and want to put forth. But then please, go ahead and explain why it is of tremendous importance and how it can be used in the search for 0-point energy or antigravity.

              I know that there has been a lot done to paint good things "black", and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case with the swastika as well. There are dark forces working upon our planet.

              Dave has already said the swastika is related to a magnetic field, what do you think Unity, is the swastika important and related to this conversation about the electric field of a magnet and eventually to a global green unity too?
              These four rotating arms symbolizes a spinning movement, the movement of the vortex, yes. Of course it is related as it is derived from the movement of energy. But right now I find the work of Edward Leenskalin, Dewey B Larson, Walter Russell and more more interesting than the swastika pasted over and over. Unless you can explain to me how the formation of the swastika works over the dimension of time.

              Is gravity connected to the electric field of a magnet?
              Is that why you brought it up?
              To put us back on topic?
              Are not all things connected? The gravity is life seeking towards the light, thus a metaphysical principle. I'm just trying to wrap my head around how the geometry relates to the vortex.

              PhDUH let ME share a simpleton THOTH thought:
              is understanding the SHAPE of MOVEMENT the first step to making predictions of the SHAPE of THINGS to COME?

              Unity how do we associate the CW and CCW swastikas to the idEAS in physics regarding the forces described as centrifugal/radiation and centripetal/gravity?
              Hm, I guess as they describe four points on a circle in a rotational movement and the vectors their force work in. Can you take it further on what exactly it represents? But more interesting would be how it relates to an expanding vortex, how it relates to the golden spiral, ever growing. How does it expand over time?

              I have come across the work of both men on my journey.
              (and I can give you links to my wordblog showing how their work confirms what 'just is' is too...)

              But neither Carl Munck OR James Furia have acutually invented anything.
              Both fellas are on a quest using the tools and insight given them.
              Both are okay teachers passing on what they know and have recovered.
              Cool. Yes of course no knowledge is really invented, merely rediscovered. In our search for ourselves.
              Last edited by unity; 07-08-2013, 03:26 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Raphael37 View Post


                But before you answer what is the connection in the QaBaLaH between the Archangel Raphael, Christ, and the heART?
                Where do you find all three doing lunch? (maybe the buddha too?)

                Maybe WHAT IF we find them all represented by the 6th sephiroth called Tiphereth.

                Easy enough to show the correspondence between Kether/Crown and wastika too!
                Mh, the Qabalah, interesting connection. Yes what is the nature of the life force penetrating all known things? This must be the positive energy, the outward movement, the endless seeking energy. Movement. So your point is this original source of movement can be represented by the swastika? If so, how does it help us in this search?

                Here's a little graphic.
                Last edited by unity; 07-08-2013, 03:42 PM. Reason: imglink

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                • Originally posted by unity View Post
                  The discussion material regarding what "Christ" represents is a discussion bigger than this particular topic.
                  I disagree

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  The cross often known to symbolize christianity has geometrical correlations as well.
                  ALL of the significant Crosses are MUCH OLDER than Christianity.

                  What don't YOU understand about that premise that recognizes a simple fact...that people recognized PATTERNS long before the righteous christians claimed chosen status...by taking possession of those eternal PATTERNS or obfuscating it with self serving dogma.
                  Christians are copy cats who will be dragged kickin' and screamin' all the way back to the hell they themselves have scripted.

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  The swastika as a geometrical symbol existed (of course) before the Nazis.
                  yes that is correct
                  oldest one on record can be traced to 10,000 BCE and the best part is that this particular swastika design displays what is the cornerstone of my entire argument that can be associated to the 4 forces of physics.

                  i.e. the 4 forces of physics are NOT symmetrical they are in fact ASYMMETRICAL!

                  And by coincidence we find that the oldest asymmetrical swastika on record bio-mimics the asymmetrical 4 forces!!!!

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  I just find it problematic how much this thread is spammed solely with this symbol as it a very loaded symbol and is associated with a philosophy I do not want to be associated with.
                  Ignorance sees spam, I see a bridge that needs to be built between OLD and NEW.

                  What you find problematic is YOUR problem and clearly EWE prove a fact that YOU are in denial of.
                  And that fact is that the swastika can be used to manipulate the and the MiNds of 'we the sheeple'

                  I see my work as a solution to the problems that IGNORANCE creates for itself.

                  source of my claim:
                  Swastika as Dynamic Pattern Underlying Psychosocial Power Processes

                  Clearly Unity has MUCH MUCH MUCH homework to do.

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  Put it in a more usable context and I shall discuss it further. Why is it of such importance to you?
                  I have in fact.
                  NANO World APPLICATIONS for the SWASTIKA – the true blue AVATAR | Alternative Thinking 37

                  It appears that you are dodging my links.

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  I can see you feel that we dodge this symbol because of its known roots, which is struggling if it bears deeper meaning that you understand and want to put forth.
                  btw I AM a copy cat too!
                  I have great respect for the messages being passed forward being dissed by 'IGNORANCE R-US'


                  I guess you missed the fact that the world's biggest statue is NOT of Christ but of the Spring Temple Buddha with a swastika placed over his



                  So maybe ignorant Unity should investigate WHY one of the world's oldest CULTures (the Chinese) built such a graven image?


                  Spring Temple Buddha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                  Originally posted by unity View Post

                  But then please, go ahead and explain why it is of tremendous importance and how it can be used in the search for 0-point energy or antigravity.
                  Would useful APPLICATIONS be some of the evidence you seek?

                  Well first of ALL I can list MORE USEFUL APPLICATIONS for the SWASTIKA than either you or Dave can muster for Jesus.
                  NANO World APPLICATIONS for the SWASTIKA – the true blue AVATAR | Alternative Thinking 37
                  Here is my partial list showing how the SWASTIKA is the mediator between rELIgion and Science in fact using leading edge NANO technology.

                  Btw the 128 meter Spring Temple Buddha with a swastika over his heart can be used to give us insights to Zero-point energy/gravity too!



                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  I know that there has been a lot done to paint good things "black", and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case with the swastika as well. There are dark forces working upon our planet.
                  Yup and those dark forces have enlisted IGNORANT christians as galley slaves, but who is at the helm?

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  These four rotating arms symbolizes a spinning movement, the movement of the vortex, yes. Of course it is related as it is derived from the movement of energy. But right now I find the work of Edward Leenskalin, Dewey B Larson, Walter Russell and more more interesting than the swastika pasted over and over.
                  That is nice.

                  I can give you links to my wordblog that discusses the work of ALL three men you mentioned, again I show how their work is ARCHETYPAL and inspired by what 'just is' is.

                  Stay away from that wanker/anchor Jason Verbelli and his idiot theories about free energy, promoting the SEG machine which is going nowhere...

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  Unless you can explain to me how the formation of the swastika works over the dimension of time.
                  Sure can, the KEY to understanding BOTH TIME and the SWASTIKA and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (Entropy) is ASYMMETRY.

                  Go here for the info you seek:
                  NOBEL PRIZES – The Importance of Asymmetry | Alternative Thinking 37

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  Are not all things connected?
                  In a world unified everything is connected.

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  The gravity is life seeking towards the light, thus a metaphysical principle. I'm just trying to wrap my head around how the geometry relates to the vortex.
                  But at the same time you want to ignore the swastika?


                  Oh wait I have a quote from one of those dark forces, a voice from the past that IGNORANT christians run and flee from.

                  Who said the following?

                  The Svastica is the most philosophically scientific of all symbols, as also the most comprehensible. It is the summary in a few lines of the whole work of creation, or evolution, as one should rather say, from Cosmo-theogony down to Anthro-pogony, from the indivisible unknown Parabrahm to the humble moneron of materialistic science, whose genesis is as unknown to that science as is that of the All-Deity itself. The Svastica is found heading the religious symbols of every old nation.

                  It is the Alpha and the Omega of universal creative Force, evolving from pure Spirit and ending in gross Matter. It is also the key to the cycle of Science, divine and human; and he who comprehends its full meaning is for ever liberated from the toils of Mahamaya, the great Illusion and Deceiver.
                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  Hm, I guess as they describe four points on a circle in a rotational movement and the vectors their force work in.
                  Yup vectors are VERY VERY important.

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  Can you take it further on what exactly it represents? But more interesting would be how it relates to an expanding vortex, how it relates to the golden spiral, ever growing. How does it expand over time?
                  Yes.
                  I cover all of that in ME simpleton work.
                  And the simpleton answer for now is 137.5 degrees as this GREAT video shows.
                  Nature by Numbers - YouTube

                  Originally posted by unity View Post

                  Cool. Yes of course no knowledge is really invented, merely rediscovered. In our search for ourselves.
                  Nothing new under the Sun and the Moon that our pagan ancestors did not witness ...

                  Would a pagan after thousands of years of being a big part of nature ever conclude the following?

                  "the observer affects the observation"?



                  “Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.”
                  -Buddha


                  Okay it is OBVIOUS that we know what cannot be hidden or veiled AND what is in plain sight, you have been given 2 out of 3, the Sun and the Moon can NOT be hidden, so can EWE figure out the TRUTH given those two important lights, the greater (sun) and lesser (moon).

                  Are you blinded by the light?
                  What is in plain sight?

                  How do we connect the swastika to magnetic fields, phi, pi, and how the Great Pyramid was designed?

                  Biomimicry – the Attractive and Repulsive Magnetic Spiral Swastika – the Great Pyramid and phi | Alternative Thinking 37



                  selah V

                  p.s.

                  Originally posted by unity View Post
                  So your point is this original source of movement can be represented by the swastika? If so, how does it help us in this search?
                  First of all, the point I make about the SWASTIKA = POINT = CROWN has been made by many others before ME as that quote I attached attests.

                  SWASTIKA = POINT = CROWN = KETHER = #1
                  A Practical Guide to Qabalistic Symbolism - Gareth Knight - Google Books

                  PhDUH but could you be a bit more specific about what magnetic U is searching for?
                  Last edited by Raphael37; 07-13-2013, 10:25 AM.

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                  • You try to paint Hitler as a christian but he came from the likes of you and your satanic philosophy.

                    Demonic possession of Hitler

                    For a demonic influence on Hitler, Hermann Rauschning's Hitler Speaks is brought forward as source,[12] although most modern scholars do not consider Rauschning reliable.[13] (As Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke summarises, "recent scholarship has almost certainly proved that Rauschning's conversations were mostly invented".)[14] Similarly to Rauschning, August Kubizek, one of Hitler's closest friends since childhood, claims that Hitler—17 years old at the time—once spoke to him of "returning Germany to its former glory"; of this comment August said, "It was as if another being spoke out of his body, and moved him as much as it did me."[15]

                    Some members of the Catholic Church also believe that Hitler was possessed by the devil. Father Gabriele Amorth, an exorcist of the Vatican is "convinced that the Nazis were all possessed. All you have to do is think about what Hitler did. Almost certainly they were possessed by the Devil."[16] There even are documents that state that Pope Pius XII tried to perform an exorcism on Hitler at a distance, but failed.[16]

                    An article "Hitler's Forgotten Library" by Timothy Ryback, published in The Atlantic (May 2003),[17] mentions a book from Hitler's private library authored by Dr. Ernst Schertel. Schertel, whose interests were flagellation, dance, occultism, nudism and BDSM, had also been active as an activist for sexual liberation before 1933. He had been imprisoned in Nazi Germany for seven months and his doctoral degree was revoked.[18] He is supposed to have sent a dedicated copy of his 1923 book Magic: History, Theory and Practice to Hitler some time in the mid-1920s. Hitler is said to have marked extensive passages, including one which reads "He who does not have the demonic seed within himself will never give birth to a magical world." The quote was previously mistranslated as "a new world" in Ryback's article. An English translation of Magic is due June 2009.[19]

                    Theosophist Alice A. Bailey stated during World War II that Adolf Hitler was possessed by what she called the Dark Forces.[20] Her follower Benjamin Creme has stated that through Hitler (and a group of equally evil men around him in Nazi Germany, together with a group of militarists in Japan and a further group around Mussolini in Italy[21]) was released the energies of the Antichrist,[22] which, according to theosophical teachings is not an individual person but forces of destruction.

                    According to James Herbert Brennan in his book, Occult Reich; Hitler's mentor, Dietrich Eckhart (to whom Hitler dedicates Mein Kampf), wrote to a friend of his in 1923: "Follow Hitler! He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. We have given him the 'means of communication' with Them. Do not mourn for me; I shall have influenced history more than any other German."
                    Lock the thread will be fine with me.
                    Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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                    • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                      You try to paint Hitler as a christian but he came from the likes of you and your satanic philosophy.
                      I am a lousy painter....but hItLEr once gave it a go.
                      Do you like his Mary/Jesus painting?



                      "Hitler did well in monastery school. He sang in the choir, found High Mass and other ceremonies intoxicating, and idolized priests. Impressed by their power, he at one time considered entering the priesthood."
                      [ from The Great Scandal: Christianity's Role in the Rise of the Nazis ]
                      "The national (Nazi) government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. . . . I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity . . .We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during recent years."
                      Hitler ( a Radio Broadcast July 22, 1933; from My New Order. ) (The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1. pp. 871-872, Oxford University Press,London, 1942)

                      Hitler a Catholic:
                      So maybe you were right Dave I like to paint by numb3rs.

                      This link has 64 quotes by hItLEr suggesting he was trumpting rELIgion as part of his plan.
                      Hitler a Catholic:

                      Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                      Lock the thread will be fine with me.
                      We finally agree on an APPLICATION for jesus and NAZI BS, locking down threads.

                      Yes maybe it is time to invoke Godwin's Law:



                      Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies[1][2]) is an assertion made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[2][3] In other words, Godwin said that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis.
                      but king dave-id who is really a pauper tiger this is the best part here of the God-win-law:

                      ...there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.[7] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.

                      It is considered poor form to raise such a comparison arbitrarily with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized corollary that any such ulterior-motive invocation of Godwin's law will be unsuccessful.

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
                      I see red dave.
                      Evidently you the bIbLE babbler servant of god has poor form!
                      What I see in red means that the SWASTIKA and ME won and jesus and ewe lost the debate dude.

                      I love the fact that if TRUTH messengers like ME mention the swastika (in the public domain btw) the law we get to invoke if 'we the sheeple' say stupid NAZI/hItLEr sh*t is called GOD - WIN - LAW (...or its not nice to fool with mother nature)

                      Thus the irony of the Iron Cross in the Age of Iron is that we can in fact associate both the swastika and the Iron Cross to god!

                      In this sign conquer:
                      ‘IN THIS SIGN CONQUER’ the Great Pyramid and the Sacred Cut by Tons Brunés leads us to Nikola Tesla and the Philosopher’s Stone | Reconciliation of Science and Religion

                      The following was written by a Freemason and published in 1923.
                      Please recall hItLEr would later ban Freemasonry.



                      JHVH = YHVH = tetragrammaton = swastika

                      see ya at Oktoberfest, as loser ewe are buying.



                      p.s.
                      some of your ideas on this thread are great dave, too bad you did not want to learn from what the swastika as NANO super hero wanted to teach you.
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                      • The planning of the Second World War started when Adolf Hitler joined a secret society called the Thule Society in 1919. It was in this group that he found the perverted beliefs that were later to lead him in his control of the German government.

                        In the Thule Society: "... the sun played a prime role... as a sacred symbol of the Aryans, in contrast to... the moon, revered by the Semitic peoples. The Fuhrer saw in the Jewish people, with their black hair and swarthy complexions, the dark side of the human species, whilst the blond and blue-eyed Aryans constituted the light side of humanity. ... Hitler undertook to extirpate from the material world its impure elements."1

                        Adolf Hitler PictureIn addition to sun (or light) worship, the Thule Society also practiced Satan worship: "The inner core within the Thule Society were all Satanists who practiced Black Magic."2

                        The Society was not a working-man's group as it included amongst its members: "judges, police-chiefs, barristers, lawyers, university professors and lecturers, aristocratic families, leading industrialists, surgeons, physicians, scientists, as well as a host of rich and influential bourgeois.... "3

                        The membership of the Thule Society also became the foundation of the Nazi Party: "... the Committee and the forty original members of the New German Workers' Party were all drawn from the most powerful occult society in Germany—the Thule Society."4

                        One of the founders of both groups, the Nazi Party and the Thule Society, was Dietrich Eckart: "a dedicated Satanist, the supreme adept of the arts and rituals of Black Magic and the central figure in a powerful and wide-spread circle of occultists—the Thule Group. (He was] one of the seven founder members of the Nazi Party...."

                        Eckart claimed to be the initiator of Hitler into the secrets of Satan worship. He is quoted as saying on his deathbed: "Follow Hitler. He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune! I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine;' opened his centres in vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced history more than any German."
                        Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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                        • The Thule Society

                          The Thule-Gesellschaft (Thule Society) was founded August 17, 1918, by Rudolf von Sebottendorff. He had been schooled in occultism, Islamic mysticism, alchemy, Rosicrucianism and much else, in Turkey, where he had also been initiated into Freemasonry.

                          Its original name was Studiengruppe für germanisches Altertum (Study Group for German Antiquity), but it soon started to disseminate anti-republican and anti-Semitic propaganda.

                          A movement to promote Thulian ideas among industrial workers and to offset Marxism, was formed in August 1918 - the Workers' Political Circle with Thulist Karl Harrer as chairman.

                          From this came the German Workers' Party in 1919.

                          A year later this became the NSDAP under the leadership of Adolf Hitler. It had members from the top echelons of the party, including Rudolf Hess and Alfred Rosenberg, though not Adolf Hitler. Serbottendorff stated,

                          "Thule members were the people to whom Hitler first turned and who first allied themselves with Hitler."

                          The swastika flag adopted by the NSDAP was the brain-child of another Thulist, Dr Krohn.
                          Last edited by Dave45; 07-09-2013, 09:41 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                            The planning of the Second World War started when Adolf Hitler joined a secret society called the Thule Society in 1919. It was in this group that he found the perverted beliefs that were later to lead him in his control of the German government.

                            In the Thule Society: "... the sun played a prime role... as a sacred symbol of the Aryans, in contrast to... the moon, revered by the Semitic peoples. The Fuhrer saw in the Jewish people, with their black hair and swarthy complexions, the dark side of the human species, whilst the blond and blue-eyed Aryans constituted the light side of humanity. ... Hitler undertook to extirpate from the material world its impure elements."1

                            Adolf Hitler PictureIn addition to sun (or light) worship, the Thule Society also practiced Satan worship: "The inner core within the Thule Society were all Satanists who practiced Black Magic."2

                            The Society was not a working-man's group as it included amongst its members: "judges, police-chiefs, barristers, lawyers, university professors and lecturers, aristocratic families, leading industrialists, surgeons, physicians, scientists, as well as a host of rich and influential bourgeois.... "3

                            The membership of the Thule Society also became the foundation of the Nazi Party: "... the Committee and the forty original members of the New German Workers' Party were all drawn from the most powerful occult society in Germany—the Thule Society."4

                            One of the founders of both groups, the Nazi Party and the Thule Society, was Dietrich Eckart: "a dedicated Satanist, the supreme adept of the arts and rituals of Black Magic and the central figure in a powerful and wide-spread circle of occultists—the Thule Group. (He was] one of the seven founder members of the Nazi Party...."

                            Eckart claimed to be the initiator of Hitler into the secrets of Satan worship. He is quoted as saying on his deathbed: "Follow Hitler. He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune! I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine;' opened his centres in vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced history more than any German."


                            I AM sorry but I must invoke GOD-WIN-LAW = you lose

                            How big a LOSER is ignorant dave who ignores vital information placed in plain sight, as a servant of the dEvIL how obvious does it become that EWE are blind to the obvious?

                            I actually get to invoke the GODWIN Law twice!!!

                            please do try to get past the Nazis - I admit they were tools pronounced thules*.

                            but please do yourself a favor and download this FREE pdf.
                            another POV of those who I respect - the PATTERN seekers ...
                            Cosmos and History (the myth of eternal return) : Mircea Eliade : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

                            Chapter 1 - Archetypes and Repetition is full of great insights.

                            The "eternal return" is, according to the theories of religious historian Mircea Eliade, a belief, expressed (sometimes implicitly, but often explicitly) in religious behavior, in the ability to return to the mythical age, to become contemporary with the events described in one's myths.[1] It should be distinguished from the philosophical concept of eternal return.

                            According to Eliade,

                            "all the definitions given up till now of the religious phenomenon have one thing in common: each has its own way of showing that the sacred and the religious life are the opposite of the profane and secular life."

                            According to Eliade, in the archaic worldview, the power of a thing resides in its origin, so that "knowing the origin of an object, an animal, a plant, and so on is equivalent to acquiring a magical power over them".[12] The way a thing was created establishes that thing's nature, the pattern to which it should conform. By gaining control over the origin of a thing, one also gains control over the thing itself.

                            Eliade concluded that, if origin and power are to be the same, "it is the first manifestation of a thing that is significant and valid".[13] The Sacred first manifested itself in the events of the mythical age; hence, traditional man sees the mythical age as the foundation of value.

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return_(Eliade)
                            ME the man was no dummy.
                            M ircea
                            E LIade

                            btw I AM also a big fan of J.C.



                            Joseph Campbell who introduced little me to both ME and the oldest swastika found on record (see above image) traced back to 10,000 BCE.
                            I go into greater detail about the symbol in a thread on our forum here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-machines.html

                            note I have highlighted in orange the apparent ASYMMETRY that was part of the cosmic information being passed FORWARD in space time.
                            The asymmetry of 3 vs. 1 can be carried forward to the present day where the idEAs called TOE (theory of everything) or GUT (grand unified theory) revolves around, hinges upon 'gravity' being unified with the other three forces physics has identified.

                            ...thus as archetypes defined by shape/form/etc. the numb3rs 555 vs. 5 vs its mirror image 222 vs 2 are significant.

                            Of course so are the shapes/forms of these letters - SSS vs. S and ZZZ vs. Z


                            SSS555
                            ZZZ222


                            Now please recall what GHREES is trumpting, that these FORMS are SNAKES.
                            GHREES is trying to pass itself off as some kind of 'think tank'.
                            GHREES was an idEA hatched in 1947, along with aLIEns in Roswell and the rebirth of IsraEL and a shot a rebuilding Solomon's Temp-EL perhaps?

                            Now dave why is it so difficult to get a bIbLE babbler to admit that EvIL LEvI snakes could somehow connected to WAVE FORMS generated by LIGHT and or SOUND...associated profoundly to the number 1/137 and to the electro-magnetic fIELd .... why why why?

                            What I Lov3 about my archetypal journey is how it has touched upon so many other beLIEfs.



                            Knowledge of ASYMMETRY is not something that gets passed forward in our 'genes', thus consciousness needed to develop memes/mnemonics in order to remember what we normally ascribe to the 'collective unconscious'.

                            And there is another J.C. I AM also a big fan of!

                            James Churchward who introduced little ole' Me to the children of Mu and to what he called the KEY TO UNIVERSAL MOVEMENT, all associated with the highly controversial Niven Tablets found and documented near Mexico City, that mysteriously went missing in transit.

                            William Niven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                            And what was that symbol that J.C. introduced me to connected to the lost civilization of Mu, what he referred to as the KEY of Universal MOVEMENT?

                            viola! ta da! yahoo!



                            game set match - what a story the REAL history of the dark swarthy and divine swastika reveals itself to be!!!

                            the REAL history of the swastika or LEI Wen as it is called in China might prove itself to be so much more than just the distraction called hIEL hItLEr, who as it turns out you are NOT allowed to bring into this discussion about god and the swastika.

                            JAH it is true - IF you mention hItLEr or the NAZIS while trying to dispute the divinity of the 12,000+ year old swastika, I AM a TRUTH meSSenger who is allowed to trump your ignorant nonsense that ignores the obvious by invoking the GOD-WIN-LAW.

                            And here is proof god/JeHoVaH/YHVH and ME do lunch from time to time.
                            “My Conversations with JEHOVAH = SWASTIKA” | Reconciliation of Science and Religion

                            Please read Chapter 1 of that book by ME.
                            Cosmos and History (the myth of eternal return) : Mircea Eliade : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
                            Mircea ELIade it appears is the manifested cosmic voice of I37 too!

                            Hey Dave do you see ME on this plate that RaphaEL lead ME to?
                            Do you see ME spelled out?
                            What else did little ole' Me extract from this bowl that has its origins in Samarra Iraq circa 4500-5500 BCE?



                            What did accessing Kether allow little ole Me to pull out of thin air?
                            (p.s. I found out from the Golden Dawn that when you access Kether you get in touch with your higher self)

                            Here is what my shadow showed Me, an image is worth 1000 words, we rEMEMber by usign images, thus what I was shown via the wastika is probably what my former consciousness had tapped into, which was probably also a 'reflection' of the much larger collective unconscious.



                            source of image and an in depth look at the journey ME shadow self took Me on: Story of the W and Z – Sator Square – Twistor String Theory – Penrose & Schwaller & Witten & Wedekind | Alternative Thinking 37

                            selah

                            OX

                            * see the next post about the Thule society and .... GODWIN
                            Last edited by Raphael37; 07-10-2013, 02:48 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                              The Thule Society

                              The Thule-Gesellschaft (Thule Society) was founded August 17, 1918, by Rudolf von Sebottendorff. He had been schooled in occultism, Islamic mysticism, alchemy, Rosicrucianism and much else, in Turkey, where he had also been initiated into Freemasonry.

                              Its original name was Studiengruppe für germanisches Altertum (Study Group for German Antiquity), but it soon started to disseminate anti-republican and anti-Semitic propaganda.

                              A movement to promote Thulian ideas among industrial workers and to offset Marxism, was formed in August 1918 - the Workers' Political Circle with Thulist Karl Harrer as chairman.

                              From this came the German Workers' Party in 1919.

                              A year later this became the NSDAP under the leadership of Adolf Hitler. It had members from the top echelons of the party, including Rudolf Hess and Alfred Rosenberg, though not Adolf Hitler. Serbottendorff stated,

                              "Thule members were the people to whom Hitler first turned and who first allied themselves with Hitler."
                              p.s.
                              oops in my last posting I forgot to invoke GODWIN for a second time.

                              IF you want to discuss the Thule society and the tools who counted themselves as unconscious MEMbErs being taken for a MEME magic carpet ride, we must take Jocelyn GODWIN the author/scholar along as mentor, guide, and scribe for obvious reasons:



                              Arktos: The Myth of the Pole in Science, Symbolism and Nazi Survival: Amazon.ca: Joscelyn Godwin: Books

                              Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                              The swastika flag adopted by the NSDAP was the brain-child of another Thulist, Dr Krohn.
                              sadly this historical fact is a loaded gun fired by christians who want to dodge the bullet called: why did christians put on Nazi uniforms and commit crimes against humanity .... again???

                              Your cut and past idiocy is just MORE PROOF that ignorant dave has NOT done his homework, and his lazy ass self who claims to be a servant of god really amounts to an ignorant jesus christ cut and paste bIbLE babbler who is content to spread idiot sh*t till the end of time....

                              Da Teutonic Knights

                              Take a real close look at this image/oil painting depicting a scene from 1914.

                              What do EWE see dave???



                              “…a noble Theory of Everything must include SWASTIKA” | Reconciliation of Science and Religion

                              Dave at that last link is the proof/evidence provided by ME the MYSTIC/PROPHET RaphaEL that trumps the gossip/rumor that is given a voice by ignorant servants of god/jesus like you Dave.

                              go back to shleep bIbLE babbler, I AM the fella (IsrafaEL) who plays the TRUMP card allowing ME to blow my horn.

                              da plain and simpleton TRUTH blows the TRUMPET that wakes 'we da sheeple'.

                              AND apparently EWE ain't ready for it.

                              selah V
                              Last edited by Raphael37; 07-10-2013, 02:43 PM.

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                              • Oh you havent seen the trump card yet, it will send shutters throughout the sea.
                                When all is said and done Yeshua wins, and will reward His.
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