The electric field of a magnet

[MonsieurM]

this conveys better the information

posted here: http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...ntenna-10.html

from: Sacred Mathematics

The key in this regard [pardon the pun] is that Music is basically about ratios, frequencies (geometrical sine waves), and timing (a very mathematical kind of thingamagig). There is also a strong geometrical connection, in that, if one takes the unique 3-4-5 right triangle (with sides of 3, 4, and 5 equal units -- the only triangular shape utilizing a combination of single digit whole numbers which result in one angle of the triangle equaling 90 degrees -- however, larger numbers such as 5, 12, and 13 also work), and strings a continuous fine wire to each of the three points of the triangle, it is then possible to tune one of the sides to a particular note, and have the other two sides be in a tuned harmony. The three sides of the triangle form a series of tones that are equivalent to the first three strings of a tuned guitar. (One might also note that geometrically, one only has to tune one side of the triangle, while the guitar requires all three strings to be individually tuned!)

[nueview]

Does a Tesla Coil generate more output power than you put in? - YouTube

please note in this video the power is greatest as the resonance is paralell for the two sets of waves at the same time.
Martin

[MonsieurM]

then the coil needs to be 2in diameter and 5 inches long?
seems short

remember this post:

144000 is harmonically equivalent to 144, 14.4, 1.44, and .000144.

[nueview]

Question do magnetic fields collapse to there center or to the point of origin center?

something seems to be telling me it is to there center so within the coil that field action will be lost on collapse.

the setup you are showing should prove this out to some degree.
Martin

[nueview]

i love the things energy does i saw this kind of thing happen to me many years ago while doing my first transformer osciliator it drove me nutsand lead to my reasoning that magnetic fields and e-fields are different beasts.
i so recignize that reaction.
enjoy the vid.
Martin

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[MonsieurM]

The more I think about this the copper cw ribbon coil and the aluminum ccw ribbon coil should both be in the center, side by side.

are you sure you want copper and aluminum

have contemplated the thought of using a 6 diamagnetic and a 9
as a Dielectric

Solid dielectrics are perhaps the most commonly used dielectrics in electrical engineering, and many solids are very good insulators. Some examples include porcelain, glass, and most plastics. Air, nitrogen and sulfur hexafluoride are the three most commonly used gaseous dielectrics.

[MonsieurM]

from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post169368

Remember:James Y. JOHNSON

Dipolar Resonance / Anomalous Dispersion Mutation

James Y Johnson -- Dipolar resonance -- Anomalous dispersion bands

I found this

Improvements in devices for generating electromagnetic fields oscillating with quasi-optical frequencies

Abstract -- Electromagnetic fields of quasi-optical frequencies are generated in the space between two oppositely-placed electrodes which are excited at one or more of their natural frequencies by an external high-frequency source. The electrodes are the seat of electromagnetic waves, after the manner of Lecher wires, but in two dimensions instead of one. The apparatus is applied for various purposes, including the chemical, physical, and biological processes referred to in Specification 417,501. The distribution of electric stress in the dielectric may be made visible by a polarized-light projection system. Fig. 1 shows a resonator comprising parallel circular plates 1, 2 excited by high-frequency voltages applied by the conductors 3, 4. The plates may be of square or rectangular form, and may be inclined to each other. One or both may be concave or convex on its inner surface. Current and voltage waves are propagated along the plates in the same manner as along Lecher wires. With circular plates excited at their centres and with their rims free, the fundamental oscillation gives a voltage peak and a current node at the rim. If the rims are short-circuited by added capacity, as for instance by inserting the resonator in a metal cylinder 9, Fig. 24, the voltage peak and current node are at the centre. The plates also resonate at higher frequencies, with nodal diameters and nodal concentric circles. With rectangular plates, nodal lines parallel or oblique to the edges are created. The positions of the nodal lines may be predetermined by metal blocks 10, Fig. 24, fixed to the external cylinder 9, or to one of the plates 1, 2. The plates may be of good conducting metal, or of poorly-conductive metal with or without a coating of good conductivity; or the plates may be in the form of containers filled with an electrolyte. The plates may be light-permeable, consisting of glass with a very thin coating of precious metal on their inner or outer faces. One or both plates may also be in the form of wire grids stretched across rings of insulating material and electro-plated with copper or silver to provide good conductivity where the wires cross.

see also A magneto-optic effect http://www.energeticforum.com/168198-post126.html

For those who are interested in our working device:

Device #1 - Mixed Languages(Uncut).mpg - YouTube
Lithuania OU Experiment #4 Wesley's Theory + schematic+ explanation+step by step instruction - YouTube

your circuits showing flyback secondary directly connected to Tesla primary coil actually are killing dipole. The AV (Avramenko) diode plug to single wire of flyback secondary and Tesla primary over spark gap is the only way to get open circuit..

[nueview]

sorry for the questions but someone had to ask them.
well i have my thoughts about what happens but i cannot say for sure.
magnetic fields as i have worked with them tend to be strongest when they are shortest so saying they rise and fall seems to be valid. that they influence charge flow seems valid as well.
now were does the magnetic store itself it must be inside something which has a charge dipole stress situation or it would sease to exist entirely.
i have never seen a magnetic field collapse back it always continues to drive current in the direction of the field rotation.
now charge is another story al by itself if the magnetic field begins to drop the driven charge has a compressed spacial value and as it is less driven it expands and this produces the backward charge flow.
charge has a unique property of lets say close is good enough so the tension across a dielectric can sustain a charge imbalance.
now this in itself is not sufficiant enough to generate a magnetic field.
many a charge has been put on a coil of wire without generating but the most minute magnetic effect by people with static machines it is just something we all try but it never works.
so a charge can be stored across a dielectric.
a magnetic field can be stored in any closed loop of iron relavent to the cross sectional volume as per its permiability.
this begs a few questions in itself as i do not get a charge reaction when the loop is open save for the field external motion due to the gap formed by the opening a coil wraped about the iron demonstrates this as there is no current flow while the field is still inside the iron loop.
this tends to make me think that magnetic fields are a specific charge rotation orientation.
it is ok to be confused as i am also but this does cover the basic actions of generated fields as we know them. and under certain conditions the magnetic action can be suppressed or vice versa.
Martin
i posted a vid and it talked about paralell power transfer between two potentials perhaps energy does not flow singley but in pairs as the genetic helix? just a thought not an absolute anything but it could answer some things about magnetic effects.

[Dave45]

In the center of the core we have two fields one cw one ccw if we can get these fields to channel in a structure (the ribbon coils) seems we could collect them when the mag field is pulsed, thats my aim for now, experimentation will decide.
The Don Smith rig is designed to catch the orbiting electric field, and I may wind some coils for this design as well, Lowe's carry's aluminum bar its about three sixteenths thick and about one and one half inches wide, I think it will work well, heat bend and run high voltage through it to anneal it.

[nueview]

i did forget one thing in the above post both the magnetic and e-field both coerse rotation from field interaction.
any current flowing in a loop will center an iron rod in the loop of conducting wire a magnet will move to either end this is the only action that does not bode well for faradays magnetic action of currents. why?

Dave i think the only way to know is to ecperiment the more i do the more it proves to me that i can expect it to react in certain ways only to certain construction. it is said simple things confound the wise. i don't think i am wise but i am pretty confused by how it all goes together.
Martin

the heat thing is going to add a whole nother aspect to the game you do realize that.

[MonsieurM]

I think a dielectric allows the magnetic field to flow but restricts the electric field to a certain extent, when the dielectric fails we get a cascade effect because the electric particles break through the dielectric.

don't forget that the e field and magnetic field are codependent

if the dielectric restricts e field (ie a small 6 ) it will compensate on the 3 and 9...think of a balloon when squeezed ...the system will always compensate to find equilibrium

you can even see that in the properties the materials we use...such as copper...glass...etc

glass used as capacitor...copper as conductor....you just have to find what corresponds to 6 ,3 and 9

[Dave45]

i did forget one thing in the above post both the magnetic and e-field both coerse rotation from field interaction.
any current flowing in a loop will center an iron rod in the loop of conducting wire a magnet will move to either end this is the only action that does not bode well for faradays magnetic action of currents. why?

Dave i think the only way to know is to ecperiment the more i do the more it proves to me that i can expect it to react in certain ways only to certain construction. it is said simple things confound the wise. i don't think i am wise but i am pretty confused by how it all goes together.
Martin

the heat thing is going to add a whole nother aspect to the game you do realize that.

You and me both but we learn more everyday

Ya know the way it should be done, find the resonant frequency of your core wind the ribbon coil, heat then run the same frequency through the coil as it cools.
But I'll probably wing it, I dont have the necessary equipment or expertise

[nueview]

does anyone know a good junk source for power inverter mosfets like a car or old CFL or power supply
i need some for my motor project.
Martin

[Dave45]

All used parts are disappearing in my area people are junking everything the price of junk metal is high and jobs are scarce, soon you wont get anything unless you buy it new. Our country is being fleeced first our wealth then our security then what thier really after our rights.

Iv been thinking about the Don Smith setup, I wonder, if we ran a small oscillating current through the L2 coils, we need bait, make the coils out of aluminum and oscillate a small current through them.


I remember Steven Marks said two frequency's could run in a wire at the same time.

[Dave45]

You cant go fishing without bait

Use two frequency generators one on the L2 cw coil, one on the L2 ccw coil and a nst on the L1 coil, just like Wesley's group.