The electric field of a magnet

[Dave45]

bemf is higher voltage wise than the applied voltage, will it continue to grow as it makes the circle, inquiring minds want to know

[Dave45]

Ring of Fire Johnny Cash - YouTube

[Dave45]

something else Iv been thinking about when voltage is run through an air coil we have a counter electric field form on the outside of a coil but do we also have a counter electric field inside the coil

inquiring minds want to know

[boguslaw]

Very good thoughts Dave45 I think though that you are jumping over one step of complication. I would rather think about how to make one transformer OU then to join them by 6 or 8. Of course genius is able to make it all in 8 coil connected right in place but it's very complex and maybe impossible to adjust all 8 into one device.

[MonsieurM]

Dave found the following while looking for a reference:

Edward Leedskalnin: Magnetic Current

Magnetic currents, or if you want to call it electric current, make no light. We only get light if we put obstructions in the light bulbs. In the light bulbs the wire is so small that all magnets cannot pass through easily, so they heat the wire up and burn and make light. If the wire in the light bulb had been as large inside as it is outside then there would be no light. Hen those individual magnets which are in the coil would dissipate in air.

Both North and South individual magnet currents which came out of the car battery and went in the transformer were direct currents, but the light in the bulb was caused by alternating currents. (Have in mind that always there are two currents, one current alone cannot run. To run they have to run one against the other). You transformed currents in kind.Now I will tell you how to transform currents in strength. To make higher voltage you wind the coil with smaller wire and more turns and to have less voltage wind the coil with bigger wire and less turns. The difference now is that this transformer makes alternating currents from direct currents and the power line transformers use alternating currents to make alternating currents in this transformer, the iron prong ends remain the same magnet pole, but in power line transformers the magnet poles alternate. In power line transformers the currents only are in motion and in this transformer the currents are in motion and you are, too.

[nueview]

i was looking at the Hubbard picture and i am wondering if the outside layer is wound with steel or iron there seems to be no connection and after seeing many papers about inverse transformer action i am left wondering about this it could change the hole field action and structuring.
Martin

[MonsieurM]

Dave...The man is amazing...I have the impression that I am reading all our discussions

No wonder he said he discovered the secrets of the pyramid

639 for him was child play

talking about 639 (universe is all wave IMHO)

The following image is from Edward Leedskalnin: Magnetic Current




do you recognize it here in one of those

from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...phenomena.html

[myenergetic]

To see the field configuration

@ Dave45

Quote #339: “I really need to freeze a capacitor to see the field configuration, for this I'll need ultra pure water and high voltage, I have a 300 vdc power supply will see what I can do, the problem will be to stop it from electrolyzing.”

I am reading a book from F.W.PEEK JR 1915

THE DIELECTRIC PHENOMENA IN HIGH VOLTAGE ENGINEERING.

I like the simplicity of the expression regarding the Magnetic stored energy (i^2L/2) and Electric stored energy (v^2C/2).

You can find at the picture attached the line of forces static and magnetic perpendicular to each other in parallel power lines.

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1325075760
I hope it helps

Regards
JJ

[nueview]

jj
i like the information on the field interaction it goes with another fact i learned today.

dave
i am thinking the hubbard coil is all wrong in the concept you should look at it more like a hairpin circuit magnetic flow and Z impediance shifting. it took me a bit to make the connection but i got it.
Martin

[Dave45]

center transformer- step up
next transformer- step down
alternate to the end
You build amps and voltage as you go
wire size would get larger as you progressed
outer coil winding would be huge

notice the outer coil

[myenergetic]

Hubbard work replication

@Dave45

It is very laborious to estimate and guess Hubbard work with so many unknowns. It might be a simple resonant circuit to receive high voltage radiant energy transmitter located somewhere. Can you provide us some primitive figures of your proposed design like

1, Proposed Coil length and radius
2, proposed Wire gauge
3, proposed distance between coils
4, proposed working pulse frequency
6, Proposed wire material type and wire insulation type

….to name a few heh..

Man you are very fast and hard to follow (Asking for time out...)

@ nueview

Waiting your discovery on the issue (#369)

@ MM
The #369 is totally coincidental... Martin didn't mean it


Regards

JJ

[MonsieurM]

@ MM
The #369 is totally coincidental... Martin didn't mean it


Regards

JJ

Or Is it...welcome to the Twilight Zone

[Dave45]

I'll let it sink in for awhile, its just basic transformer action but using solenoid cores instead of the E core the solenoid cores are open system able to draw in extra energy where the E core is a closed system.

Hey MM I see the system in a couple of your pics

You were ahead of me bro I hadnt got that far yet

[nueview]

Tesla Hairpin Circuit from A to Y - YouTube

this is very inportant it goes with Ed's work watch this at codygillespie @ youtube

so many things are starting to make sense the magnetic current is not a charge flow and can work together but act seperatly as well this is evident in the normal tank circuit oscillator
Martin

[MonsieurM]

Tesla Hairpin Circuit from A to Y - YouTube

this is very inportant it goes with Ed's work watch this at codygillespie @ youtube

so many things are starting to make sense the magnetic current is not a charge flow and can work together but act seperatly as well this is evident in the normal tank circuit oscillator
Martin

could you provide an image of what happens....not sure i can visualize it yet :confused

A picture is worth a thousand words :