The electric field of a magnet

[blackchisel97]

All is evident in creation

Great observation Dave
What is also interesting is asymmetry within our body. Ever tried to photoshop two halves of face Our brain halves are also not identical. There are "pairs" but not equal.

Thanks
Vtech

[MonsieurM]

Great observation Dave
What is also interesting is asymmetry within our body. Ever tried to photoshop two halves of face Our brain halves are also not identical. There are "pairs" but not equal.

Thanks
Vtech

indeed the chirality of the human body shows that the "Pairs" are not quite equal... a simple test would be to put your hands together and you'll notice the difference...you can do the same with earphones ... one side seems to hear better

[MonsieurM]

I tend to agree with others on the forum what we are dealing with is ions at least until they are joined to form the electron.

If we are dealing with ions maybe we should look at running our devices in a vacuum chamber.

Easy to build.

dave

That is quite an interesting thought Dave .... as many experiments we discussed in the thread .... http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-crystals.html ...... quite a bit were run in Vacuum ... maybe this is the missing link

will review some of those to confirm the pattern

[Savvypro]

Here's the configuration Im working with


I have figured out how to add coils so they are in the path of the electric field without too much trouble

its a work in progress
dave

When we understand the geometry of the fields possibility's unveil themselves

let it flow naturally

@Dave45

Have you tested the core to see how much spillage there is with it. I've been going through a couple of old books on electromagnets and the section which covers confining the magnetic field, one of the books has a picture of a ring core which has had wire coiled round it. Using iron filings, you could see that the core didn't hold the magnetic field that well inside the core.

Also, the books cover square vs round cross sections, with round being better than square. As the magnetic field will leak out in the corners and edges while with a round cross section there isn’t as many places for leakage.

[blackchisel97]

I agree round would be better
We deal with what we have
If only we had more resources
dave

We have to try it with the resources available to us. My 120mm ferrite rings just arrived a minute ago. I have a few ideas just need to focus.

Thanks
Vtech

[Savvypro]

Well the books I was going through were:

The electromagnet, and electromagnetic mechanism (1891)

Solenoids, electromagnets and electro-magnetic windings (1910)

Both can be found at archive.org

On page 36 and 37 (pdf page being: 62) of "Solenoids, electromagnets and electro-magnetic windings": it shows the leakage on confined magnetic fields.


On a different note, on the use of ice: in one of Tesla’s patents he states that he observed interesting phenomena when experimenting with water, saline solution and ice. He patented the use of ice, to freeze wires so as to lower the resistance, and power leakage. He then did a follow up patent, one in which, he suggested using liquid oxygen/air, to gain better results.

[phoneboy]

Jumped off the table ??

If your plates burned through the dielectric then you must have exceeded their dielectric strength, which would coincide with the jumping (TT Brown effects). Time to get yourself some stronger dielectric (PTFE or barium titanate), but if you do try not to fly away.

[Iotayodi]

Oh by the way the capacitor jumped of the table

Gives a new meaning to Jump Start!
What was the source voltage and materials used in the Cap?

[MonsieurM]

Dave , blackchisel97

just wanted to post it here as i think we previously mentioned it :

Rodin Coil as a Metal detector .... just replace the ring of the metal detector with

[blackchisel97]

Dave , blackchisel97

just wanted to post it here as i think we previously mentioned it :

Rodin Coil as a Metal detector .... just replace the ring of the metal detector with

Thank you MonsieurM Yes, I have made several variations of Rodin and Starship Coil. They are superior to other uni and bifilar.
I recently utilized one of them in my Mendocino motor. I'm able to run from small garden light solar cell on ambient light or cloudy day. It starts @ around 1V and 2.5mA. (nothing serious about, just trying to have some fun )

Cheers
Vtech

[Dave45]

I think one of the main problems with alot of the devices around is frequency, we are running the devices in the megahertz and trying to make usable energy.

Our appliances need sixty hertz to operate the way they are designed, the only way I see to get the frequency down is with caps, they need to be used to reduce the frequency as well as store the energy, a transformer will convert volts to amps but will not change the frequency.

CAPACITIVE STEP-DOWN TRANSFORMER - Part 1 - YouTube

[MonsieurM]

Dave are you familiar with this vid

The "Free This Energy Circuit" Part 1 - YouTube

All credit Freethisone.
More Research Available at open-source-energy.org

How to: Part 4 Capacitance effect. - YouTube

[blackchisel97]

Dave are you familiar with this vid

The "Free This Energy Circuit" Part 1 - YouTube



How to: Part 4 Capacitance effect. - YouTube

Thank you MonsieurM. I'm staring at this patent for the last few days and my two ferrite toroids. I got two bifilar coils on hollow ferrite cores in between and scope across different configurations. I've seen some waves I've never seen before. This actually motivate me to fix my X10 probe since digits on the screen started to wobble a bit. I need to build couple pulse generators so I can have different freq. set. I'm not really trying to replicate anything but rather sniff for possibilities. It is nice to see how placement of small magnets can affects the wave pattern.
I'm trying to work on couple projects at the same time (which isn't good) but when I find a job my spare time maybe scarce again.


Vtech

[Dave45]

Hey guy's Iv been mia

Thanks for the vids MM, I have alot of catching up to do.

I hear ya Vtech I also have about three configurations Im working on when I have time.

Something Iv been pondering, In Wesley's group they were using two different frequency's to drive thier devices, I believe I can do the same thing using two primary's with a different number of windings(asymmetry)

Something folks may want to consider, a square bobbin is not a good experimental setup the corners crimp your wire which makes it hard to wind and rewind your coils, if possible use round bobbins
Im going to set the square cores and bobbins aside until Im sure how to wind my coils, so that means finding more bobbins or making by own, Im seriously considering buying a small lathe.

[Dave45]

Im always scrounging around for easy parts and thought you guys might be interested, this came from one of the older bunt pans for baking bunt cakes, its ten inches in diameter and aluminum they have a cone attached but peels off easily, thrift stores




Im thinking of incorporating it into the Smith device