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I really like this circuit as you can tell
I was thinking this morning we want to draw in from the aether or ground maybe we are trying to do it on the wrong side of the coils.
If we use a resistor that passes just enough juice to get the system oscillating with a small load then a larger load should pull from the ground or kill the oscillation
Its worth a shot
daveHalf of the Answer is knowing the right Question
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Originally posted by Dave45 View PostI really like this circuit as you can tell
I was thinking this morning we want to draw in from the aether or ground maybe we are trying to do it on the wrong side of the coils.
If we use a resistor that passes just enough juice to get the system oscillating with a small load then a larger load should pull from the ground or kill the oscillation
Its worth a shot
dave
Thanks
Vtech'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'
General D.Eisenhower
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Dave thought this might interest you ..... as you know .... love to go back to the Master to find new clues
Terrestrial stationary waves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Terrestrial spherical-conductor surface wave transmission line
On the other hand, Tesla's concept was that of a global wireless electrical power transmission grid and telecommunications network based upon energy transmission by means of a spherical conductor “single-wire” surface wave transmission line and a propagating TM00 mode.[5] A feasibility study using a sufficiently powerful and properly tuned Tesla coil earth-resonance transmitter is called for.[6]References
Elmore, Glenn, "Introduction to the Propagating Wave on a Single Conductor," Corridor Systems Inc., 2009.E*field direction
The solution to the wave equation for the propagating TM mode produces a non*zero
longitudinal component of the E*field. This is in contrast to the solution for the TEM
mode in coax which produces only a transverse E*field.Last edited by MonsieurM; 01-16-2013, 11:21 PM.“Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.
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Thank you Monsieur M, good reading
I took a break from other experiments and hooked up my 8" dia 12ga bifilar Tesla coil to ZVS circuit (common to the choke). I got it oscillating and pulling 0.18A @ 12V DC. I made half a size (4") pancake coil (same wire) with 0.1uF across and 20W bulb. I need to measure but the bulb seems as bright as powered from 12VDC but total draw is only 1A which equals 12W. Probably just an illusion. I have beautiful sine on the output, measuring 18V on the scope. Output frequency is 76kHz. Very nice inductive coupling with such small output coil. I knew that Tesla bifilar works great as transmitter and wonder what would happen if I'll use identical bifilar as a receiver
Dave, I will try your idea with ground.
Update; I got both Tesla Bifilar Coils for primary and secondary. Much better coupling. I have to move secondary over an inch from primary because the bulb is getting too bright. Right capacitor across secondary makes a big difference.
Also (Just for fun) tried 5" ferrite rod with 120T secondary and two 20T primaries in series. Lighting 110VAC 3W LED light no problem. 40mA draw without a load and 110mA with the bulb connected at 9VDC supply. AC out with a load 110V on the scope.
I want to test this circuit with different primaries on large ferrite toroid. I have to make some kind of spools so they can be moved and spaced apart around the circumference.
I tried Dave's idea with ground but nothing extraordinary so far. A few more variations to try.
Vtech'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'
General D.Eisenhower
http://www.nvtronics.org
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Hey good reading MM I dont think much got by Tesla, He dreamed of free electricity for a free world but we know that can never happen so we must build small generators for individuals for everyone.
Vtech good to hear your still goin strong, this circuit has potential if we can find the right combination of coils, shorted coils or magnets.
Work has been slow so just payen the bills for now but it will pick up soon and I will be building this circuit, I have posted some idea's to try.
The problem with using coils without a toroidal core is they radiate. a toroid keeps the coils from radiating because the electric aspect of the field is attracted to the magnetic field that is inclosed in the toroid, providing its not overpowered.Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question
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Something I noticed with the cw and ccw coils, powering them from the center out, if I run neg through both coils I get two magnetic fields but if one is neg and one is pos, one field.
If both were powered neg I got no charge on the plate, but if one is neg and one is pos the plates charged
That led to this
Last edited by Dave45; 01-18-2013, 02:46 AM.Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question
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Alexg800 posted this circuit in the Bitoroid thread
which is basically a zvs using transistors, I do have the components to build this
It can be switched using npn instead of pnp transistors, this is gonna be funHalf of the Answer is knowing the right Question
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Thought I would study on how a magnetron works, very interesting we need to study whats happening here, proven tech.
This looks like a generator, just needs some wires
Radar Basics - MagnetronHalf of the Answer is knowing the right Question
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When I studied the magnetron at first I thought it showed that energy could not be had by magnetic fields at all, but then I noticed that the magnetron is not using the magnetic field as an energy source but for its spin.
We can get energy from a magnetic field but we must lead off both ends, we can pull energy off a permanent magnet like this,
We do not need thorium, all you need is a permanent magnet.Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question
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