Steven Marks TPU

[cikljamas]

Hi energetic forum lovers!

I was absent for a while, but now i wanna ask you: what has happened with Steven Marks TPU? Does anybody work on it?

[Kokomoj0]

They have been working on it for over 5 years on overunity.com and guess what.... it does not work. But there used to be lots of wire and creative coils that you could buy on ebay from frustrated people who realized that enthalpy and entropy will sneak up on you every time. May want to direct your attention to the ecat or tesla transmitter and other devices that others have actually proven to "work", unless you are an expereinced and degreed engineer with an intimate understanding of coil design.

[mbrownn]

If the TPU is real, there is two components missing from what we have been told. An input from us to get it started and a means of recycling that input. The environment can provide enough energy to power the losses and more but it cannot power the whole input so we have to recycle that energy.

Where is the regenerative circuit? and where do we put in the power at start up? I think the other parts of it people have worked out.

[Kokomoj0]

If the TPU is real, there is two components missing from what we have been told. An input from us to get it started and a means of recycling that input. The environment can provide enough energy to power the losses and more but it cannot power the whole input so we have to recycle that energy.

Where is the regenerative circuit? and where do we put in the power at start up? I think the other parts of it people have worked out.

the archilles heel!

[cikljamas]

Jack Durban, guy who had worked with Steven M., in one of his articles about S. Marks TPU said this:

There was a reason beyond the endless supply of
investment dollars that kept the technology from ever
being delivered, and that was the fact that the device only
ran for so long before it shut down due to overheating,
which averaged 20 minutes or so after it was activated. He
was very frustrated with the thermal issues, but every time
I came up with a solution he would say he would check it
out, but nothing ever came of the remedies. He would
never allow me to take the unit apart or do any dissecting
at all. The design was quite simple. There were two sets of
windings arranged in a fashion that very closely resemble
the Tesla patent 381,970 circa 1888. There were two large
chokes and polypropylene caps that appeared to be an
output smoothing function. My Instincts told me that the
choke and cap pair was a tuned tank, but knowing how
little electronics knowledge Steven had, I could not see him
being capable of doing any tank tuning, and there was no
grid dip gear around. I'll be releasing more information as I
get time.

So, do you think overheating/thermal issues are those which are still waiting to be resolved/overcame, or you think that Jack Durban lies too?

[mbrownn]

Based upon an electrical simulation I ran, the TPU may have been possible but it would require a power source to start it, a regenerative circuit and an input of radiant energy. The simulation was based upon a transformer which I had oscillating with 2.6kw via a regenerative circuit and the input was 20w. I think we can get that much radiant out of the circuit and more but it was in the hundreds of kHz frequency, not 60 Hz. To run at 60Hz the coils would be massive.

Is there a patent for the TPU?

[Dave45]

Iv looked at this some the article by Jack Durban said they couldnt patent the whole design because some of it was in the public domain, Ed Leedskalnin's PMH
If I was trying to replicate the TPU this is where I would start
Make the PMH
then wind another winding on the core, charge the original pmh, then occilate a small current through third winding and collect the bemf from the pmh

[Dave45]

I think the heat problem was the iron core, metglas or ferrite core might solve that problem.

[MonsieurM]

Jack Durban, guy who had worked with Steven M., in one of his articles about S. Marks TPU said this:



So, do you think overheating/thermal issues are those which are still waiting to be resolved/overcame, or you think that Jack Durban lies too?

maybe this could solve the heating problem.....

Oscar C. BLOMGREN
Electrostatic Cooling

There are three conventional ways to transfer heat: Conduction, Convection, and Radiation. Now there is a fourth way, Electrostatic Cooling (ESC), that has been discovered and patented by Oscar C. Blomgren (Sr. & Jr.) and others. Negative ion probes are placed near a heated object, which is grounded. When high voltage is applied, there is a dramatic drop in temperature. This extremely simple system reduces or eliminates the need for other methods, and it uses very low power and is very efficient. It also facilitates heating when applied in reverse!

Oscar C. Blomgren: Electrostatic Cooling ~ Collected patents & articles

[Joit]

I think that J Durban did lie at some Points like stating that Sm was not very cabable, because i give SM Credit for beeing a EE even when he may did not know all things from her Point of View.

This overheating Problem seems for me more like the thick Wires with no resistance, can even be a to high oscillating Transistor too, or a certain feedback. And at this point, i think that JDurban is not really capable. One or more Switch would be needed, to create AC or any similar, what is actually at Teslas Patent too, but JDurban dont mention anything, that there been any.

[cikljamas]

Ok, maybe they lie maybe they do not, but what is really interesting to me is this:
Which is, in your opinion, the shortest and/or easiest way to harnessing a radiant energy?
Is there some device that is worthy of investing time and money in this radiant domain, something that is at least close to OU if not his majesty OU himself???
Or we are still waiting for Godot?

[boguslaw]

Jack Durban, guy who had worked with Steven M., in one of his articles about S. Marks TPU said this:



So, do you think overheating/thermal issues are those which are still waiting to be resolved/overcame, or you think that Jack Durban lies too?

If device construction was so simple then overheating probably was not resolved.
Here is something very similiar to TPU : Ferrite magnetic polarization (work in progress) - YouTube

[Farmhand]

Ok, maybe they lie maybe they do not, but what is really interesting to me is this:
Which is, in your opinion, the shortest and/or easiest way to harnessing a radiant energy?
Is there some device that is worthy of investing time and money in this radiant domain, something that is at least close to OU if not his majesty OU himself???
Or we are still waiting for Godot?

Hi cikljamas, Good to see you posting, how are you ? That Tesla Patent is
the Tesla toroid or the (two phase) rotating magnetic field transformer, it is
also in patent 382 282 and patent 390 721.

That transformer is basically what Bob Boyce's device is but his is three
phase, remember I pointed that out during the This Is It thread.

As far as I can tell the TPU of Steve Marks could only have been a fake. If it
was wound like a Tesla transformer there would be absolutely no reason for
there to be any output without an input except maybe some noise.

My bet would be that it was an inverter made to look like an un-powered
magic device. It wouldn't be difficult to build a set of rechargeable batteries
into a big fat toroid and then wind a transformer on that. Depending on the
batteries and load it could run for a while but heat would be a problem if the
batteries and inverter circuit had no ventilation to cool them.

My suggestion cikljamas, is to set up you're Bingo or Stingo and and
remeasure the output to the charge battery, because if the charge battery is
in series with the source battery the power should be calculated by
multiplying the charge current in amps by the voltage of the source and
charge batteries combined, not the charge current multiplied by the charge
battery voltage only.

Cheers

[Farmhand]

If I were going to fake a TPU I would just mold a string of sub-C rechargeable
batteries connected in series/parallel and an inverter circuit with a magnetically
activated on/off switch into a toroidal former, possibly using some kind of
expandable foam, an iron ring or other core material could also be molded in the
foam former and the connections for the transformer primaries could protrude
from the former, the transformer could then be wound on the former and the
primaries connected to the prodruding connections and (connections) hidden under the
secondary or something. To start it, or turn it on you would just need to wave a
magnet past the magnetically activated on/off switch and hey presto magic.

When the batteries run down, just pull out the hidden charge plug out and charge them up.

Did nobody consider that possibility ?

The foam former, batteries and circuit could be wrapped with iron ribbon
before winding the transformer, to act as the core and shield the batteries
and circuit.

If I were one of the people wanting to suppress free energy I would probably
pay someone very well to do something like that, to amaze and distract
people. In my opinion that is one possible scenario.

Distraction and disinformation.

The whole thing is so dubious and lacking in solid information, replications or
other substantiating evidence in my opinion in can only be a illusion.



P.S. It's funny how Steve stayed around long enough to put out some video's
of him demonstrating the device to ....ehem.... (businessmen), just long
enough for him and his device to become famous and "cult like", but not long
enough to have to put up or shut up by revealing his device details, just
vanished ? How mysterious and dark ? Was it voodoo ? or

..

[cikljamas]

If device construction was so simple then overheating probably was not resolved.
Here is something very similiar to TPU : Ferrite magnetic polarization (work in progress) - YouTube

Work in progress, that is the best part!
100 years after Tesla i think it is time for overcoming that phrase in this radiant realm, don`t you think so?

Hi cikljamas, Good to see you posting, how are you ?

Hi Farmhand, glad to see your words again, it was romantic time year ago trying to replicate that OU charger, although Watkykjy (not Elvis) has left the stage before he even had got into Cesar Palace Las Vegas.

My bet would be that it was an inverter made to look like an un-powered
magic device. It wouldn't be difficult to build a set of rechargeable batteries
into a big fat toroid and then wind a transformer on that. Depending on the
batteries and load it could run for a while but heat would be a problem if the
batteries and inverter circuit had no ventilation to cool them.

Could be so, i just wonder if Watkykjy had put rechargeable batteries somewhere in his device too?

My suggestion cikljamas, is to set up you're Bingo or Stingo and and
remeasure the output to the charge battery, because if the charge battery is
in series with the source battery the power should be calculated by
multiplying the charge current in amps by the voltage of the source and
charge batteries combined, not the charge current multiplied by the charge
battery voltage only.
Cheers

Hm, it is strange what you are saying, but even if it was so, what consequences you think would come out from that calculating method?

I mean, in that case we would have achieved OU, but from all our experiments and measurements it has not looked like we had achieved OU, so i am confused as you correctly presumed i will be after i read these words of yours.

Or i just still have difficulties with english (and i know i do, but how to help myself?)?

Cheers!