Steven Marks TPU

[Farmhand]

Could be so, i just wonder if Watkykjy had put rechargeable batteries somewhere in his device too?

Hm, it is strange what you are saying, but even if it was so, what consequences you think would come out from that calculating method?

I'm starting to think the self charging is kind of possible, as in I think the
effect Watkykjy showed is possible, I'm working on it still, I don't give up I
just wait a bit longer and think some more.

I mean, in that case we would have achieved OU, but from all our experiments and measurements it has not looked like we had achieved OU, so i am confused as you correctly presumed i will be after i read these words of yours.

Or i just still have difficulties with english (and i know i do, but how to help myself?)?

Cheers!

I beg to differ, a lot of experiments do look very close to "OU", one of the key
things with the coil recovery is, that it is usually counter productive to direct
it back to the source, it must work into double the voltage of the source. I
think the choke for the Watkykjy device kind of created the voltage drop
across it's winding's, to do away with the second battery, so the recovery was
not working into the source voltage. The idea being the choke doesn't
consume energy like a battery would. But in my opinion the choke is a bad
idea.

Regardless I can make the voltage of the two batteries combined rise, so I
think that's better. But I am working on a way to demonstrate the self
charging, I think I can do it, but I want to do it in a way that is not
destructive. I still don't see self charging as being very useful, and reserve my
judgement on if it could actually really charge a battery.

Cheers

[Farmhand]

cikljamas, I'm going to separate the recovery diodes and have the magnetic field
of one primary coil collapse into the charging capacitor that discharges through
the other coil, both ways. If it blows up I'm gonna blame it on you.

The two coils are 180 degrees out of phase so it should work.

In theory it should run down slowly and stop. I'll still need to power the circuitry
but I can switch the input power to the coils off. Sounds like fun.



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I'll try anything for you cikljamas, as long as I don't achieve "lift off" I'll
report back what happens, I need to be careful of the connections so I don't
ruin something and get frustrated, it'll take a while.

Thanks for the incentive. Maybe TPU can be real.

[Farmhand]

Well that was a fizzer, doing that actually reduced everything, input, output and
the tank cap voltage, seems to level everything out and restrict the tank cap
voltage to half usual which is not welcome. It upsets the balance, no matter
back to the experimenting.

Cheers

[Kokomoj0]

Jack Durban, guy who had worked with Steven M., in one of his articles about S. Marks TPU said this:



So, do you think overheating/thermal issues are those which are still waiting to be resolved/overcame, or you think that Jack Durban lies too?

There has never been a legitimate test on that tpu, you guys want it tested I will be happy to stop by and test it.

Some guy plugging in a drill standing on a soap box making all sorts of claims is not a test.

You first need a tested and "validated" working unit before you need to worry about heat and that has no been done.

As I said they have been goofing off with this red herring on ou for over 5 years and not on person produced one working unit nor did one person get one unit to produce over unity. The smith device is a variant of the same.

Unlike Tesla devices not one person here can explain it mathematically working, so whats our first clue?


But good luck anyway

[Kokomoj0]

If I were going to fake a TPU I would just mold a string of sub-C rechargeable
batteries connected in series/parallel and an inverter circuit with a magnetically
activated on/off switch into a toroidal former, possibly using some kind of
expandable foam, an iron ring or other core material could also be molded in the
foam former and the connections for the transformer primaries could protrude
from the former, the transformer could then be wound on the former and the
primaries connected to the prodruding connections and (connections) hidden under the
secondary or something. To start it, or turn it on you would just need to wave a
magnet past the magnetically activated on/off switch and hey presto magic.

When the batteries run down, just pull out the hidden charge plug out and charge them up.

Did nobody consider that possibility ?

The foam former, batteries and circuit could be wrapped with iron ribbon
before winding the transformer, to act as the core and shield the batteries
and circuit.

If I were one of the people wanting to suppress free energy I would probably
pay someone very well to do something like that, to amaze and distract
people. In my opinion that is one possible scenario.

Distraction and disinformation.

The whole thing is so dubious and lacking in solid information, replications or
other substantiating evidence in my opinion in can only be a illusion.



P.S. It's funny how Steve stayed around long enough to put out some video's
of him demonstrating the device to ....ehem.... (businessmen), just long
enough for him and his device to become famous and "cult like", but not long
enough to have to put up or shut up by revealing his device details, just
vanished ? How mysterious and dark ? Was it voodoo ? or

..

yup you are bang on!

double A NIMI batteries put out 2.5 amps for a long time and can do it ironically for about the same amount of time that these people show off their devices before they shut them down for [insert red herring reason here].

Heat the direction of the wind voodoo house burning down wife calling on phone you name it they ALWAYS have an excuse to shut it down. Without fail all those devices in the final analysis have been proven to be fake.

from wiki:


The typical specific energy for NiMH AA cells is about 100 W·h/kg, and for other NiMH dry cells about 75 W·h/kg (270 kJ/kg), compared to 40–60 W·h/kg for Ni–Cd, or 100-160 W·h/kg for Li-ion. NiMH has a volumetric energy density of about 300 W·h/L (1080 MJ/m³), significantly better than nickel–cadmium at 50–150 W·h/L, and about the same as Li-ion at 250-360 W·h/L.

About 22% of portable rechargeable batteries sold in Japan in 2010 were nickel–metal hydride.[5] In Switzerland in 2009, the equivalent statistic was approximately 60%.[6] This percentage has fallen over time due to the increase in manufacture of lithium ion batteries: in 2000, almost half of all portable rechargeable batteries sold in Japan were nickel–metal

[cikljamas]

Thanks for the incentive. Maybe TPU can be real.

We do know Tesla did it (successfully harnessing cosmic energy), don`t we?
So, if those TPUs that we has been seeing all around didn`t achieve OU, it doesn`t mean that this kind of technology is not capable of producing relevant amount of energy with desirable efficiency just with few improvements or so, or it does mean it?

But if TPUs are not right solution, how about tesla coils based devices? Is there some better results?

Farmhand, i know you have built few tesla coils, could we not use tesla coil as a basis for building OU device that will be capable of doing the job that we are hanging about?

Considering S. Marks TPU, just watch this one more video shut by Jack Durban, and then tell me if it does seem to you that in this Jacks little TPU there is also enough space for hiding little batteries.

P.S. Farmhand, you did not answer me, i repeat: do you consider your way of calculating our stingo/bingo charging devices as OU, because if you calculate like this then ti got to be, although we both know that it isn`t?
So, what is the point of that kind of calculation?

Cheers!

[Farmhand]

We do know Tesla did it (successfully harnessing cosmic energy), don`t we?
So, if those TPUs that we has been seeing all around didn`t achieve OU, it doesn`t mean that this kind of technology is not capable of producing relevant amount of energy with desirable efficiency just with few improvements or so, or it does mean it?

But if TPUs are not right solution, how about tesla coils based devices? Is there some better results?

Farmhand, i know you have built few tesla coils, could we not use tesla coil as a basis for building OU device that will be capable of doing the job that we are hanging about?

Considering S. Marks TPU, just watch this one more video shut by Jack Durban, and then tell me if it does seem to you that in this Jacks little TPU there is also enough space for hiding little batteries.

P.S. Farmhand, you did not answer me, i repeat: do you consider your way of calculating our stingo/bingo charging devices as OU, because if you calculate like this then ti got to be, although we both know that it isn`t?
So, what is the point of that kind of calculation?

Cheers!

To tell you the truth I don't know exactly what to think of the calculations
except that I think that by showing the charging current goes through two
batteries in series when done like this picture and so the voltage of the two
batteries in series should be used to determine the power.



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I don't really care about OU, I try not to use the term OU, but with all the
wild claims I thought I would make a claim of my own, and that was part of the logic I
used to make it. I just like to experiment to find useful stuff to use and for fun.

It takes a lot of persistance and time to make and use Tesla coils. I'm in the
process of building a motor generator like in this patent 390 721
I'll just use a PWM circuit to excite the field coils. It should work because it's
Tesla proven. When the field coils are excited (pulsed) the rotor (armature)
turns in sync with the rotating magnetic field in the stator. Then when the
rotor is loaded mechanically, currents are produced from the armature coils
which power the loads through a converter or motors. Tesla explains it better
in the patent of course.

Here's my progress, I haven't got far yet.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...enerators.html

Cheers

[mbrownn]

There has never been a legitimate test on that tpu, you guys want it tested I will be happy to stop by and test it.

Some guy plugging in a drill standing on a soap box making all sorts of claims is not a test.

You first need a tested and "validated" working unit before you need to worry about heat and that has no been done.

As I said they have been goofing off with this red herring on ou for over 5 years and not on person produced one working unit nor did one person get one unit to produce over unity. The smith device is a variant of the same.

Unlike Tesla devices not one person here can explain it mathematically working, so whats our first clue?


But good luck anyway

I think your right, I don't know of an overunity device that works on AC Tesla's devices were pulsed DC. I have been applying pulsed DC to the problem but there is no way to use the magnetic gain in a Toroid so we rely on radiant, but radiant is not so good with closed loop magnetic circuits.

[Joit]

I was more about to say, J Durban lies in the Description, or hide some of it, not that the Device is not True.

What does anyone think, is the Body from the Device in the Video from Metal or Non-Metal. Watch 1:30 and listen carefully.

[cikljamas]

To tell you the truth I don't know exactly what to think of the calculations
except that I think that by showing the charging current goes through two
batteries in series when done like this picture and so the voltage of the two
batteries in series should be used to determine the power.

Very interesting circuit, have you tried to charge batteries like this, and if you did what were the results of comparing watts from the both sides (input/output) while charging batteries on the right with batteries from the left?

I don't really care about OU, I try not to use the term OU, but with all the wild claims I thought I would make a claim of my own, and that was part of the logic I used to make it. I just like to experiment to find useful stuff to use and for fun.

Very healthy way of thinking, i agree with you 100 %!
But, i still do not think that we should regard radiant energy in the same way as if Tesla had never offered to us so much in this domain as he fortunately had offered, don`t you think so?

If we are really grateful we should keep on where he had ceased, and go forward.

Regarding that motor which you are trying to replicate: what is the real difference between that motor and induction-cage motor if any?

Farmhand, have you seen that Jack Durbans video? Here is again link for that video:

Steven Marks TPU video by Jack Durban DVD reliz Hi8 kassete DL version 1 - YouTube

So simple, so small device, so good result, and i hope no hidden batteries, amazing, do you agree with me? I would love to replicate something like this, but i expect at least one positive and hopeful comment on that video instead of exclusive critics and doubts.

@ Joit said:

What does anyone think, is the Body from the Device in the Video from Metal or Non-Metal. Watch 1:30 and listen carefully.

Anybody has the link for this video?

[cikljamas]

Farmhand and others look at this video too:
TPU EXPOSED - YouTube

[Dave45]

Very interesting circuit, have you tried to charge batteries like this, and if you did what were the results of comparing watts from the both sides (input/output) while charging batteries on the right with batteries from the left?




Very healthy way of thinking, i agree with you 100 %!
But, i still do not think that we should regard radiant energy in the same way as if Tesla had never offered to us so much in this domain as he fortunately had offered, don`t you think so?

If we are really grateful we should keep on where he had ceased, and go forward.

Regarding that motor which you are trying to replicate: what is the real difference between that motor and induction-cage motor if any?

Farmhand, have you seen that Jack Durbans video? Here is again link for that video:

Steven Marks TPU video by Jack Durban DVD reliz Hi8 kassete DL version 1 - YouTube

So simple, so small device, so good result, and i hope no hidden batteries, amazing, do you agree with me? I would love to replicate something like this, but i expect at least one positive and hopeful comment on that video instead of exclusive critics and doubts.

@ Joit said:


Anybody has the link for this video?

Does anyone have the full version of the vid. very interesting

[Dave45]

Farmhand and others look at this video too:
TPU EXPOSED - YouTube

This guy has a good attitude
He makes some great points

[Joit]

Well he has a Point, and that is what i thought by myself often too, that you actually need one Point to refer too, like this Guy to the Earth Magnetic Field.
So when someone blaim it on tapping into the Earth Magnetic Field, you could replace this 'Source' by a Magnet, and that is, what i figure out for the Milkovic swing too, how to replace Gravity with a refering Point of Force.

Just wonder what would happen when he place a very large ring magnet under it, if it will change anything on it.

[cikljamas]

This guy has a good attitude
He makes some great points

I do not know about great points, but at 0:12 he translate TPU as Tesla Power Unit which is really funny, i have thought TPU is acronym for Toroid Power Unit, but who knows who is right , after all why should we not call it Tesla Power Unit just for fun_

And i also like this comment on the video:

its so awesome how you cant quickly explain what this is supposed to do. why cant anyone take ten seconds and just say oh, this thing does this, and this is the outcome, but no instead, i have no idea whats going on. still looks nice i guess

But i would much more like if someone gave us quick explanation what this is supposed to do!

Update: Oh, Joit just have explained one of the possible Ists points in his video, thanks Joint!