E-Cat test was a success?

[Farmhand]

Here a couple of articles quotes,
I can't find the hydrogen use but i seem to remember someone saying a bottle would last over a year on a 5kw unit but i can't confirm it.

"To start up the reactor you have just to turn on a switch. The reactor works with enormous margins of safety, so there is no need of a particular skill. Just follow the instructions. The refueling is every 6 months and will be made by our dealers."

"one kilogram of nickel powder should deliver 10 kW of energy for 10,000 hours. The consumption rate of hydrogen and nickel are 0.1 g of Ni and 0.01 g of H to produce 10 kWh/h"
that is over 400 days

Well that does look promising, I was just raising concerns and as always I
hope to corrected if I am wrong, it is difficult to keep up with all the details .

There is still the problem of the supply and demand, if there is suddenly a big
demand for Nickel powder then you can bet you're bottom dollar the price will
not stop going up until the market responds and want's less, that's just how it
works I think.

I we wanted cheaper power from the power company all we need to do is use
less as a whole, which will not happen, but if it could the power companies
would have an excess and be forced to sell it cheap, that is good business.

Good business is what they practice, but it's only good for them not us. If it
works well enough in the home we will find out in about 20 years time
probably, unless there is a revolution against consumerism.

Here's hoping,
Cheers

[b4FreeEnergy]

Dealers

"To start up the reactor you have just to turn on a switch. The reactor works with enormous margins of safety, so there is no need of a particular skill. Just follow the instructions. The refueling is every 6 months and will be made by our dealers."

"one kilogram of nickel powder should deliver 10 kW of energy for 10,000 hours. The consumption rate of hydrogen and nickel are 0.1 g of Ni and 0.01 g of H to produce 10 kWh/h"
that is over 400 days

Hi Roland, you said "will be made by our dealers". Does this mean you are involved in the E-cat team? One more important thing of course will be the price of such a device, do you know more?

Those 400 days already sounds good, the central heating boys have to come by once a year too to clean the chimney and tune the “oil burner” again.

Regards,
B

[marseye]

Hi Roland, you said "will be made by our dealers". Does this mean you are involved in the E-cat team? One more important thing of course will be the price of such a device, do you know more?

The sentence was inside quotes, meaning he was just reporting the words of others... Roland is 'just' one among us all in this forum, aiming at self-powering our homes and days...

[jibbguy]

Still nothing in Associated Press (AP) so far today according to their site, but
"Fox News" weighed-in on it (at least in their website version, which does not automatically mean they will mention it on TV):

Cold Fusion Experiment: Major Success Or Complex Hoax? | Fox News

[elias]

Latest article on pesn:
Rossi's E-Cat Victory on Cold Fusion's Emergence Day -- E-Day

[soundiceuk]

Bloomberg's EnergyNow Names E-Cat as Week's HotZone - YouTube

[Arius Nowak]

No cold fusion.

This E-cat is nothing of CNF, it is chemical reactor in which deuterium is as "nuclear" substance used.
To use as in last "show" (really, it could be the last to be), it needs ground wall circling it,
as by dynamite production.

[jibbguy]

I'm not sure you understand the ECat claims.

Unlike the earlier systems that have been proved to provide excess energy many times around the world in multiple Peer Reviewed Studies from prestigious Universities... that ARE based on Deuterium (heavy water) in a Palladium lattice...

The ECat is claimed to use Nickle power and hydrogen instead. There are no claims or reports of water being inside the reactor chamber (but an exterior water jacket is used for transferring heat).

There is a "secret sauce"... often called a "catalyst"... however, this is thought by most to actually be a biasing electromagnetic waveform (much like the Energetics of Israel, and the Naval Research Lab systems use). But no one is saying for sure what the catalyst is.

You could be right about it being a "chemical reaction" verses a nuclear one. However, then new laws of Chemistry will also need to be written

[Arius Nowak]

Nuclear jokes.

What i see what people says, they have nothing really of knowledge about not only todays known nuclear processes, but also this called as CNF.
But don't please be ashamed, this also happened to this "Nobel" swedish scientist, Johansson, which had measured the E-cat.
When You want to know something about CNF, i advise You to read and try to understand
works of Victor Schauberger.
And in more scientifical as philosophical sence, try this:
̃.Ñ. Ïị̂àïîâ Ưíåđăèÿ âđàùåíèÿ
This above is explanation of Victors works and not only.
But plese don't expect, that after reading it, You will find how to build the flying saucer.
Or time machine as it should be called properly.
Enjoy Your time, Friend.
It is getting worser and worser, and only knowledge can get You out of problems.
Do You trust me?

[kcarring]

There is still the problem of the supply and demand, if there is suddenly a big demand for Nickel powder then you can bet you're bottom dollar the price will not stop going up until the market responds and want's less, that's just how it works I think.

That's exactly correct. Diesel used to be cheap too, until every Tom Dick and Harry started running around in a diesel truck. Big Oil could easily, and quickly buy up the vast majority of nickel mines, and that'd pretty much be the end of that. It'd be another energy source, at their said cost.

[elias]

That's exactly correct. Diesel used to be cheap too, until every Tom Dick and Harry started running around in a diesel truck. Big Oil could easily, and quickly buy up the vast majority of nickel mines, and that'd pretty much be the end of that. It'd be another energy source, at their said cost.

Plz don't empower the big oil with that belief. We make them big. They can't do that if we stand up and pull them down, it is enough for them, and for us.

[Arius Nowak]

Not CNF.

You can not understand, that E-cat is not CNF reactor or anything bound with "nuclear".
So it needs fuel supply and change.
Whats more, it is dangerous, can only under industrial conditions to be used.
Same as by dynamite production, also by high ground wall surrounded.

[jibbguy]

So now it's "dangerous" too?

Please explain how; yes dynamite is dangerous, less so than the triglycerides that are used to make it.

ECat is either a "fraud". Or it is "legitimate". This is a proper and "good" argument in my opinion; since frankly not enough proof has been given to make it a 100% "sure thing"... and there always is the possibility that the entire affair is DESIGNED as "psy-ops" to discredit LENR... after all, we have seen that before for other technologies (that i may point out, the same media people have pushed).

But to make other claims... Requires a bit more than simple statements.

1) it is "legitimate", but "too dangerous".

2) It is actually a chemical reaction similar to dynamite.

There IS NO accepted chemical theory as to how Nickle and Hydrogen can combine to store or release significant amounts of energy. Nor, Deuterium and Palladium for that matter.

OK, we can discard the claims, or believe them. For instance: The claim that small amounts of beta radiation (from Tritium) is given off inside the reactor (only during operation, with no permanent radioactive waste since it decays quickly and apparently Tritium from my understanding of it, will not permeate the reactor walls.. it is released in large quantities NOW in fission nuclear plants all around the world).

[Arius Nowak]

Deuterium

You are somewhat smarter as anothers.
Nickel is igniter for D2O, but surely with sthg else.
I don't know exactly, cos i abandoned chemistry knowledge long time ago.
It is simply s.it.
And to nuclear part.
They show in old papers that, only 1 chain of they "nuclear" reaction gives off 37 MeV.
Such amount, when we count real, full power to achieve enough heat, would kill instantly anybody 100m from it.
It is even better to go to Fukushima today!
There is much less danger.

[jibbguy]

How much NiO would be required?