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  • #16
    Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
    Hi all, I can't watch a whole 30 minute video, I was wondering if someone could
    post the time marks in the video where the power measurements are made.

    Thanks
    They hate that!

    There are no power measurements made LOL


    If it lights a bulb everyone seems to lose their minds and run off the cliff!

    The first thing I noticed is that he could not even read the voltage with his meter because the frequency was to high for the meter to respond to.

    So I guess I will help these guys out not that it will give pause to the stampede LOL

    Ok here you go peeps,

    You all need to build 2 or 3 of these and correctly size them for your project.

    You can measure either current by placing it across a series resistor to your device or across the input or output of your device directly, or any part of the device you wish to measure. You will need to make sure they are matched precisely to each other if you want to insure accuracy.

    It is to convert whatever gooblety gook you have for a wave form into dc because even the dumbest meter in the world can measure direct current and you do not need to worry about meter specs. so much.

    Now this will not give anyone the correct voltage, IT IS NOT MEANT TO DO THAT! It is meant to give you very accurate "COMPARATIVE" measurements between inputs and outputs. The exact voltages are relative and irrelevant.

    Farm this is another case where the inventor does not know how to "measure" his device and as we all know 99.99999% of all OU devices fail because people do not know how to "PROPERLY" measure them.







    Now if I see a similar circuit to the above used to make measurements on OU devices or those like Dollard uses then I am all ears, otherwise I write virtually all these gizmos off because people do not know how to properly measure them and they look kool but will not work or produce ou.

    ciao
    Last edited by Kokomoj0; 10-31-2011, 01:52 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joit View Post
      WEb00x your pdf anyhow dont works for me anyhow, do i have a non-compatible Version from a Pdf-Reader?
      "Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave" is the title of the book. There are multiple places to find it on the web. Just google another one until you find one that will open.

      Dave

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Joit View Post
        I made a Preview Picture, means it did save couple Pictures from the Video,
        since you cant watch it complete, Farmhand so you can download the Picture at full size from the Link and look at it with a Graphicprogram and zoom it more.

        I converted the Video to 32mb also instead of 130mb, just yell, when you want me to upload it to thedudes server.
        Thanks Joit! i love the image gallery. very handy. I did reload the video and i'm watching it again now. Should be good. The 470p version from youtube is almost 200mb and i think i interupted the first transfer.

        I sure hope that this line of experimentation will prove fruitful for all of us.
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        • #19
          Braided Material?

          What is that braided metal material he uses? Is it like a typical ground lead, as seen on some equipment? I can't make out what he calls it. And.. this material... is he saying that it is actually all one continuous piece, that begins to form the inner radius of the toroid, then passes through the "slit" (or cut) in the core, then travels the outside diameter? Or is two lengths, one in, one outside? Does anyone understand the electrical function of this braided material?

          Thanks.

          While I agree with many accounts, both positive, and negative...regarding this device... I wonder what size of battery he drives with this. I wonder, because... let's assume for a second, hypothetically, that the unit is merely an inverter (perhaps one that fools the user into thinking it's ultra efficient COP>1) -- if that were true... you'd still need a fairly big 12v battery to successfully deliver the amps, which would be in the order of 16A or so... I did not see the battery. Was it automotive sized? A small lead acid battery, an SLA, I wonder if it'd even be able to deliver that kind of current. Granted it may not actually BE 200 watts of output, but.. it does look close. It isn't 10 watts. I have an SLA 12v battery that is about 7-9 amp/hrs... it can deliver about 35-40 watts maximum. Certainly could not (inverted) drive two 100 watt light bulbs to that brilliance, anyway... is what I am saying...
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          • #20
            It looks interesting
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Boso View Post
              It looks interesting
              yes taking a second look it does.

              he has nice scope readout on it, and it uses a tada! spark gap!

              He put the thing in resonance so I am raising my eyebrows a bit on this one.

              The kool thing about it however is that there are no mystery boxes, voodoo and guess whats in my left hand tactics like the tpu and smith devices so this may be worth a closer look.


              The main reason I say that is because he does show step by step with explanation how to build it so it should be very easy to replicate if people even get close.

              So all things considered this may be legit, and with the complete instructions prove out very quickly without growing old winding 1000's of coils.

              Presuming it is true I do not have an explanation for the ou however. Where is Dollard?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by kcarring View Post
                What is that braided metal material he uses?.

                it looked like a braided battery cable ground wire.

                he said he had one built from scratch up and running in one evening.

                Of course with the equipment layout like that I can see why!

                His work did not look particularly meticulous.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post

                  OK, watched the YouTube version instead
                  As I understand this transformer action -
                  Piece of 'bright' inside the left side of two halves of a ferrite ring.
                  50 winds of approx 18 gauge copper wire around that same side, then on top we have 15 or 16 winds of same gauge ?
                  Other side, 150 winds of similar gauge wire, wound bifilar.
                  Place piece of paper as a seperator between the two sides of the ferrite.
                  Pulse the 15 winds with 400kHz.
                  Pulse the 50 winds with 50Hz.
                  The 150 winds side is where we draw the power from.
                  Here are more pictures from the lab:
                  Attached Files

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                  • #24
                    Also, see carrier wave of 50Hz having ferrite resonant wave of 382Khz.

                    For those who concern about power input: we connected 2 impulse generators with 10V 0.25A each. The load is 220V 150W halogen.

                    P.S> The 1,6Mhz resonance is on copper plates and 382Khz in 1 of primary coils in previous post.
                    Reposting here because in overunity.com forum this piece of information is lost.
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                    Last edited by T-1000; 10-31-2011, 02:02 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by T-1000 View Post
                      Also, see carrier wave of 50Hz having ferrite resonant wave of 382Khz.

                      For those who concern about power input: we connected 2 impulse generators with 10V 0.25A each. The load is 220V 150W halogen.

                      P.S> The 1,6Mhz resonance is on copper plates and 382Khz in 1 of primary coils in previous post.
                      Reposting here because in overunity.com forum this piece of information is lost.
                      Wasn't this schematic posted somewhere on OU? Does anyone have a link? I looked for it through the last dozen pages or so and couldn't find it....
                      Last edited by dragon; 01-20-2012, 01:00 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by dragon View Post
                        Wasn't this schematic posted somewhere on OU? Does anyone have a link? I looked for it through the last dozen pages or so and couldn't find it....
                        It was posted by me. On Saturday forum gone down and recovered only on yesterday from backup. My posts wasn't there anymore...

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                        • #27
                          Thanks T-1000, can you re post it here? Also, what is the proper procedure to find the natural resonance of the ferrite ring?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by dragon View Post
                            Thanks T-1000, can you re post it here? Also, what is the proper procedure to find the natural resonance of the ferrite ring?
                            That's correct and you need to support it in all time.

                            First you use those 2 copper plates after generator and generate white noise to it.
                            When doing that you check where are peaks on spectrum analizer and apply correct resonant frequency. No matter what type of signal is, the output should be sinus wave on secondary coil. In our case the resonance was 1,66Mhz

                            Now, when you put resonant frequency in, attach frequency analizer into primary coil of 51 turns (the other 16 turns are on first primary). Select highest peak from lowest frequency range. So it will be resonant frequency for that coil. In our case it was 382Khz.

                            After doing this, you need carrier wave, in our case it is 50Hz. When you attach 50Hz to 16 turns coil and ferrite resonant on 51 turns coil, you need to synchronize pulses between in way you get large sinus 50Hz wave carring small high frequency pulses inside. For this we used TV set's horizontal and vertical lines sync circuit and adjusted its parameters to needed frequencies.

                            For each coil you need to make LC circuit acting as filter on needed frequencies. So you calculate capacitancy values in conventional way and test it.

                            If you manage get working circuit until this step, you should have OU already.

                            The paper between 2 pieces of toroid acts as insulator.

                            If you start discharging HV capacitor over spark gap to copper plates, it will make strong scalar magnetic wave impulse and amplifies output power while lowers needed input power from generators. Just be cautionous about this step, in our experiment the ferrite gone into pieces with load of 600W (150W is without sparks) after 15-20 minutes.
                            Last edited by T-1000; 10-31-2011, 04:42 PM.

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                            • #29
                              I might have to bite my tongue for the following reasons:

                              He has an impressive show however:

                              The device leaves much room for skepticism because on a second look you can see that he demonstrates one coil and shows us how to build a different coil that he did not demonstrate.

                              The coil he shows working has ample room for batteries inside, the coil he builds does not.


                              That immediately raises a minimum of yellow flags.



                              There is room for NIMI bats in this one:





                              There is not room for nimi bats in this one:



                              and smiths device there is room for a power company,


                              I see a yellow flag here unless that guy is willing to demonstrate the coil he shows everyone to build.

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                              • #30
                                i watched both videos and guess there is some discrepancy here as well it seemed to me he said to pulse the braid and the 16 turn coil was for the output.
                                did anyone else here this or just me?
                                also he said that copper foil could be used instead of the braid.
                                i would think the braid would be a better bet though.
                                i guess it is time to tear apart some CRT monitors i am wondering if the frequency for the ferrite resonance is part of the paper spacer perhaps a small rubber spacer would work better.
                                as for the measurements it does not bother me to much it could be like trying to measure static or no resistance currents most folks won't have the equipment for reading anyway.
                                Martin

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