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  • #46
    The issue is in separating techniques and methods from cause and effect. There is so much emphasis placed on Tesla's methods, but very little understanding about where the source of excess energy is. Resonance is a method, but I honestly don't think it is a cause by itself. If the (or a) source of excess energy were found to be sympathetic resonance, than resonance would be a method for accessing it, but the source is still not the resonance by itself, but some underlying aetheric tendency for things to rattle together.

    One recurrent theme that shows up often is dual frequencies, but I see very little direct discussion of the possible role of frequency mixing as a source of excess energy. When you have two distinct frequencies in two different coils, one of which is resonant, you have the potential for true mixing...not summing...of the two frequencies. The result is (an MJN was just alluding to) the presence of other frequencies other than those originally supplied. The basis for mixing, instead of straight summing, is that the resonant coil will have both a magnetic influence and an electric influence on the adjoining coil. I think it is possible that the presence of both influences can result in a true modulation of one of the signals, and that modulation will in turn produce new frequencies.

    Modulation may have huge significance. When you take a large resonant signal and modulate it, you shift a portion of that energy through the time domain back into the frequency domain...but at a different frequency. How does Lenz feel about counteracting magnetic energy that has been frequency shifted? If you have built a resonant energy that is 100 times what you started with, the current and magnetic energy are real...because the IR losses are real. Of course then Dr. Lenz shows up to spoil the party when we attempt to use that. But what happens when we take a considerable amount of that resonant energy and modulate it, shifting some of it to another frequency. Does loading that shifted energy translate back through the time domain, back to the original resonant source? If not, the resonant energy might remain untouched, and the frequency shifted energy might be real.

    For T-1000, the 50Hz may be modulating the 382Khz, or vice versa, and the end result may be a broad range of harmonics not originally provided. Depending on the actual arrangement of the output bifilar, it could selectively be tapping some of the generated harmonics without touching the originating resonance. It wasn't clear to me what the real role of the bifilar was, but if it is in a magnetic canceling mode, then at the length they described it would act as a 1/4 wave resonator in the low Mhz...leaving the 382Khz untouched. One of the schematics didn't show it canceling, but one built coil had both wire ends coming from one end of the coil...which suggests canceling.

    As I have mentioned on various forums, I am far more interested in understanding the behavior than in getting a schematic. Until we understand the 'why', we are going to do replication attempt after attempt without getting a good result. It's discouraging and tends to result in discredit to the original device.

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    • #47
      I'm too working on very closely related device from last year summer but took me too long to wind it up because of missing components and tedious winding. Also I'm not good in electronics which I think should be perfect quality (that's why Steven Mark suggested vacuum tubes). Well ,to be useful I'd like to put some of my ideas for such device. First I would recommend for testing purposes to use audio generator and amplifier of excellent stability (minimum distortion) then wind modulation coil (50 Hz or anything you would like) for known resistance for example in my case 4 ohms to match impedance of electronics inside audio amplifier. Second it is important to have good ferrite core and ideal is like that presented in ...guess what ? ... Steven Mark videos. Toroid with quite thin (well without exaggeration) tall wall.
      For the theory I can only tell that I call it : NMR magnetic flux manipulation. In a wide aspect it is parametric resonance.In short aspect - T-1000 has some good concept but I think it is not quite correct.In fact we are fightning with solid state electric generator which is taking magnetic field (static field) and switching it on/off with high frequency (well,not directly,rather by manipulating inductance of coil). Again vide SM tips...
      Last edited by boguslaw; 11-02-2011, 09:51 PM.

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      • #48
        This is fascinating stuff guys!

        Here is my input.

        I have been playing with the Imhotep Radiant Oscillator circuit and making spark gaps to see how it effected the circuit.

        By shear curiousity I wondered what would happen if I swapped the CFL for a hydroponics 600w dual spectrum high pressure sodium bulb.

        I had lightning inside the bulb!!! But when I made the spark gap, the spark and lightning went completely mental and my volt meter did too.

        Add one of these bulbs into the circuit and see how much you get out of it!

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        • #49
          What Has Happened To Overunity Site Hope It Is Just A Glitch! Been Following Kapanadze For 100's Of Pages.

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          • #50
            The mirror of information was updated:

            Aidas / FreeEnergyLT / FreeEnergyLT

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            • #51
              Draft for tunning instuctions:

              Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

              These instructions are for ferrite from TV tube(cone geometry) ОС-90.38ПЦ12. Other types are not tested and may not work in your experiment.

              You need to support resonance all time. No matter what input wave type is, the resonant output is SINUS WAVE
              Each generator has feedback with 1 turn on coil and keeps own frequency no matter what changes inside of coil. This is where you get synchronization.
              The main 50Hz frequency is because obviously we need standard frequency out of coil.
              When using HV discharge for maximum output of ferrite cone, it most likely will heat up ferrite core and destroy it after 15-20 minutes.
              If core heat up, lower HV discharge/generators voltage.

              WILL device work if 50hz and 386khz are NOT synced ?
              IT WILL NOT.. THE FREQUENCIES ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME as properties of ferrite are not the same.
              Do not count on fixed frequencies.. The whole process is not that easy as it looks like..


              1. Connect 51 turns coil to Vector Network Analyzer output / Spectrum Analyzer intput
              2. Connect cooper plates half-ring winding to generator with white noise output.
              3. Analyze and see where is largest peak on 1.2Mhz to 1.8 Mhz
              4. Then connect generator with square or ramp at frequency of pick say 1.3 MHz to copper plates.
              5. Tune it from 0Hz to 1Mhz to maximum amplitude of 51 turns coil ( OSCILLOSCOPE AT OUTPUT).
              6. Look for lowest harmonic resonant frequency of 51 turns coil with highest amplitude ( OSCILLOSCOPE AT OUTPUT).
              7. Connect generator to 51 turns coil with frequency of readout.
              ALL OF THE STEPS SHOULD BE DONE WITH ONE GENERATOR ONLY!!! AT THE TIME..

              8. Tune that generator to maximum voltage on bifilar output.( OSCILLOSCOPE AT OUTPUT + hv probe and apply low voltage to generator output)
              9. Connect second generator of 50Hz to 15 winds and tune it to maximum at bifilar.( OSCILLOSCOPE AT OUTPUT)
              Tune +/- few Hertz on it and see where this frequency starts carrying frequency from coil of 51 turns.
              10.Connect flyback circuit with AV diodes plug and spark gap from our first experiment schematics to copper plates
              and tune variable capacitor attached to copper plates for maximum output.
              11. See the response on oscilloscope and/or light bulb at bifilar output.
              12. Re-tune circuit with two generators readjustment//

              method #2

              instead of point 1.
              connect generator square to 50 winds
              and connect spectrum analyzer at (ekran) shield / coper strip winding
              look for more than 1MHz pick..
              than fallow the other points of instruction

              Note from Wesley:
              if you have impedance meter that is capable of choosing particular frequency and or display impedance at desired frequency (50 ohm between output of commercial generator..
              Then connected winding will be a load to the generator in such way that after bifilar is connected with load than you measure impedance with
              a- generator disconnected and impedance meter connected to 50 ohm than 15 ohm NO POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO signal delivered!!!!!!!!!!!but light bulb connected!!
              b- you can also try to take few meters or bundle of wire and instead of inactive test make test on load you either cut the wire piece by piece or play with
              variable capacitor in series with the wire.. only one end of wire should be connected to say (15winds)(in my case16 wind winding)
              Wesley

              For impedance match you will probably need unwind secondary coil or wind more wire on it.
              The method determining that is: if you touch with one of secondary coil wires with finger or
              additional wire which would be as antenna and see more bright halogen, you need more turns on secondary.
              If halogen bulb brightness fades, you need less turns on secondary coil.
              Last edited by T-1000; 11-03-2011, 10:20 PM.

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              • #52
                for consideration

                I actually thought this was a scam. but It seemed to be being knocked off various vid channels quite fast and so I copied it. I've just uploaded to You tube so you can see it although I dont know how long it will stay OL,
                It seems however to have some common factors gogreenbuildyourownmotionlesssolidstatefreeenergy. flv - YouTube
                Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                  I actually thought this was a scam. but It seemed to be being knocked off various vid channels quite fast and so I copied it. I've just uploaded to You tube so you can see it although I dont know how long it will stay OL,
                  It seems however to have some common factors gogreenbuildyourownmotionlesssolidstatefreeenergy. flv - YouTube
                  This is one of unusual transformers using 2 sinus waves on opposite ends of toroid and breaking out of Lenz law because it gets cancellation effect. Seen this vid few months ago..

                  Also, almost same concept as ours - 2 frequencies at once inside, just this case has 2 same frequencies from 2 power wires..

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                  • #54
                    This is all a very large syncronisity for me.

                    I have been searching for a simple bi-filar coil design that does as Nikola Tesla's patent suggests Tesla Patent 512,340 - Coil for Electro-Magnets

                    A rather large ball has been rolled during this thread and its going to gain momentum very fast.

                    POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                      I actually thought this was a scam. but It seemed to be being knocked off various vid channels quite fast and so I copied it. I've just uploaded to You tube so you can see it although I dont know how long it will stay OL,
                      It seems however to have some common factors gogreenbuildyourownmotionlesssolidstatefreeenergy. flv - YouTube
                      Duncan, as usual full of surprises , thank you for the great info you impart on this forum







                      ps: I wonder if a Rodin Coil would work as well
                      Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-04-2011, 12:37 AM.
                      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                      • #56
                        A new type of disruptive discharge

                        Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
                        One recurrent theme that shows up often is dual frequencies, but I see very little direct discussion of the possible role of frequency mixing as a source of excess energy. When you have two distinct frequencies in two different coils, one of which is resonant, you have the potential for true mixing...not summing...of the two frequencies. The result is (an MJN was just alluding to) the presence of other frequencies other than those originally supplied. The basis for mixing, instead of straight summing, is that the resonant coil will have both a magnetic influence and an electric influence on the adjoining coil. I think it is possible that the presence of both influences can result in a true modulation of one of the signals, and that modulation will in turn produce new frequencies.
                        Some of the more interesting writings in Colorado Spring Notes are Tesla's words on ball lightning.

                        Originally posted by Tesla
                        This condition acts as a trigger which may cause the total energy of the powerful longer wave
                        to be discharged in a infinitesimally small interval of time and the proportionately tremendously
                        great rate of energy movement which cannot confine itself to the metal circuit and is released
                        into surrounding space with inconceivable violence.
                        and then there is this one.

                        Originally posted by Tesla
                        It is but a step, from the learning how a high frequency current can explosively discharge a lower frequency current, to using the principle to design a system in which these explosions can be produced by intent.
                        and this..

                        Originally posted by Tesla
                        ..it became apparent that the fireballs resulted form the interaction of two frequencies, a stray higher frequency wave imposed on the lower frequency oscillations of the main circuit...
                        So yes I agree, Why isn't there more discussion regarding wave mixing.


                        Charles Steinmetz in 1905 wrote an interesting article in the Electric Review. Unrelated to free energy this article speaks of an event that occurred in 1903 in NYC. What is of interest is that Steinmetz speaks of a phenomenon that occurs with rapid wave-trains on a lower frequency circuit.

                        To quote Steinmetz:

                        Originally posted by Steinmetz
                        I have dwelt somewhat fully on this system of wave-trains and the frequency of propagation along the circuit, since I believe this phenomenon of a third frequency, besides the impressed frequency and the frequency of circuit oscillation, has not been fully recognized.
                        Again the article is not about free energy but it is worth a read.

                        Here is the file:
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                          I wonder if a Rodin Coil would work as well
                          Rodin power was beaten by starship coil.

                          Then Jorge of Mexico compressed it and is pioneering some very unusual coils.

                          skycollection's Channel - YouTube

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by soundiceuk View Post
                            Rodin power was beaten by starship coil.

                            Then Jorge of Mexico compressed it and is pioneering some very unusual coils.

                            skycollection's Channel - YouTube
                            or a descendant of the Rodin Coil

                            So yes I agree, Why isn't there more discussion regarding wave mixing.
                            you can see the same effect in a singing bowl (or cymatics too )

                            the one thing that bugs me is that people don't usually consider the physical placement of the component as an integral part of the harmonic cascade effect (personal opinion )

                            geometry at all levels ; in music it is called polyphony

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphony_(instrument)

                            Polyphony is a property of musical instruments, meaning they can play multiple notes simultaneously. Instruments featuring polyphony are said to be polyphonic.[citation needed] Instruments that are not capable of polyphony are monophonic.
                            Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-04-2011, 01:07 AM.
                            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                            • #59
                              beginning...

                              Ok, here is what I have so far... the split ferrite toroid, 15T/50T primary and 100T bifilar secondary. Running through T-1000's tips on finding ferrite resonance and coil resonance I was able to get a fair tune although it's far from complete.

                              This arrangement uses a homemade HV cap to shift the frequency out of phase slightly to the inner copper on the ferrite. I still have to find a way to get the second low frequency into it. Also, I'm not familiar with TV electronics so the H/V sync circuit is a mystery at this point... if anyone could share some insight on building one or how to connect a circuit from an old TV or computer monitor I believe I have some available - just don't have the background knowledge of how it operates.

                              This circuit is using 6 watts and the bulb is a 7.5 watt bulb, I don't believe it's operating at full bright at this point. It's a start in any case....
                              Last edited by dragon; 03-14-2012, 02:52 AM.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by dragon View Post
                                This arrangement uses a homemade HV cap to shift the frequency out of phase slightly to the inner copper on the ferrite.
                                Good try, also may be unexpected results or minimal effects because we're not sure if there isn't geometry involved for transformer core. The copper plates make standing wave and coils make normal magnetic field, it is all about how you flip it. Also, the copper plates do not cover entire heigh of core, so we have plenty of space for effect caused by standing wave outside of the point.

                                We use 2 generators on 15/51 coils and do not use copper plates after tuning for known reason at a moment (Overcharge of the core)
                                When you get low frequency sinus wave like this:
                                http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/...__50_hercu.jpg
                                you should slightly arrange low frequency to get maximum output.

                                In regards of feedback to generators, it manage when to trigger impulses between 2 oscillations - Video-signal generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                                In overall, good progress!

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