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  • #76
    Yes I have followed the Smith device for awhile and I think the problem is the current needs to be rectified at least one leg.
    Will be interesting to see your experiments and findings
    Dave
    Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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    • #77
      so you guys are talking about: Thyratrons ( transferring some info )

      Amazing Vacuum Tubes May Eliminate Motors



      Amazing Vacuum Tubes May Eliminate Motors

      by JAY EARLE MILLER

      Based on an interview with Dr. W. R. Whitney and Associates of the General Electric Research Laboratories Scientists have accomplished the marvelous feat of literally taking nothing, sealing it in a glass tube and making it perform the tasks hitherto done by huge motors. Thyratrons, as these amazing vacuum tubes are called, may soon relegate all machinery to the junk pile. Already vacuum tubes are curing dread diseases, increasing the range of man’s senses, and saving industry huge sums.

      IMAGINE a tube, a thing of glass and metal, replacing a motor to operate a piece of machinery. Imagine a fiat bed printing press—or any machine using a reciprocating motion-—getting its energy from a glorified descendant of a radio tube.

      That’s just one of the things that research engineers of the General Electric Company expect to see within the next few years. With Thyratron power tubes and solenoids it is technically possible today.


      And that’s just what a Thyratron is, for it will convert direct current into alternating, or invert alternating current into direct As a valve it can replace switches, current breakers or lightning arresters. It can change current of one frequency into another, or pick out any particular portion of an electrical wave and put it to work. It can control any form of electrical apparatus, operate burglar alarms and do other forms of work. And it may even, as Mr. White predicts, displace electrical motors.
      ------------------

      interesting vid:

      Powering a Thyratron Tube - YouTube

      btw: a Thyratron Tube is like a plasma antenna

      Plasma antenna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      ]A plasma antenna is a type of radio antenna currently in development in which plasma is used instead of the metal elements of a traditional antenna.[1] A plasma antenna can be used for both transmission and reception.[2] Although plasma antennas have only become practical in recent years, the idea is not new; a patent for an antenna using the concept was granted to J Hettinger in 1919.[3]


      ---------------from Evolution of the E.V. Gray Circuit Topology -- by Mark McKay vs. Thyratron

      Triode vs. Thyratron

      John Bedini maintains that the E.V. Gray “Triode” was actually a high current thyratron operating in Class C mode possibly with a grounded grid. The commutater achieved the gross switching control and the thyratron was simply over-voltaged to fire like a flash tube. The intent was to provide a low resistance forward current path and then a high resistance reverse path. The advantage of a thyratron is that its heated cathode provides a fast reverse recovery time, when compared to solid-state diodes. The down side is the huge energy investment needed to supply the thyratron heater. But, it is not nearly as bad as the energy required to operate a triode in the same current range. For a standard triode the maximum forward pulse current is directly proportional to the heater wattage. This determines the number of free electrons in the space charge. In a mercury gas filled thyratron positive and negative current carriers are created in abundance when the switching “arc” is established. The maximum pulse current is more limited by the tube’s heat dissipation and the mechanical strength of its internal elements. Short-term reverse currents are inhibited due to the inertial mass of the moving positive mercury ions. For the same size of tube a thyratron can handle 1000 time more current than a triode. So there are some sound engineering reasons to believe that a thyratron might have been used
      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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      • #78
        bro
        after ramset posted that link i had no choise but to see what thease are all about .. they shure lite a nice colour

        i have takeing a likeing to tubes back a few years even .. dont get me wrong transistors are neat but tubes are KOOL looking and just plain awesome !

        W

        i think tesla may have done a thing or 2 with plasma .. possibly predateing J Hettinger in 1919.[3] altho teslas was not called an antenna however i bet the concept is the same ..

        teslas pattend for the utilization of radient energy look at his lite bulb!! its the transmitter or the reciever

        ill see bout linking the pat ! its biderrictonal ... this means wifi and wireless power in a single signal !

        ~ the days of tommorow are here today~

        watch this video .. look at fig 3 and fig 4 !

        Hello! plh anyone ...

        Utilization of Radiant Energy 1901 Nikola Tesla,My test - YouTube

        this pattend does not show his lite bulb .. but it is this one or the ozone one that mentions 3 pattends 1 thing that must be understood about this man is that he likes riddles! how do i know? lol in 1 of the 3 pattends you find all the clues !

        the only thing the dude in the video does not know is that the wires must be tuned to ringgggggg via cosmic rays ...

        you could of course broadcast omni and have rings 360 deg this is like point to point wifi 1 access point and as many useres as you desire

        here is a test plaitforam for such a unit easly made ... go get a cb .. pick a channel tune a jt to that freq .... make it work and duplicate it

        this is really easly done as the freq band is limited .. now when you squeeze the mic the led will lite .. if you feed the cb crosstalk .. i bet we can blow the led's how many miles does a cb go anyhow?
        kids play
        Last edited by willy96; 11-04-2011, 12:44 AM.

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        • #79
          willie singing narvana "smells like TEEN spirit"

          turn the lights out its less dangorus here we are now entertain us!
          i feel stupid and contagious .. here you are now entertain us!


          W

          Willie Nelson - Smells Like Teen Spirit - YouTube

          if ya think im nutz wate till ya meet the kids ! here we are now entertain us!

          many a maid lost her marbles to my trade ...

          but im still alive....

          ill fly a starship cross the universe devide

          the highway men here we are now entertain us!

          Highwayman - Johnny Cash (the highwaymen) - YouTube

          i keep a close watch on this heart of mine... i keep my eyes wide open all the time
          cuz your mine i walk the line !

          Johnny Cash-Walk The Line - YouTube

          i keep a close watch on this heart of mine... i keep my eyes wide open all the time
          cuz your mine i walk the line !

          Family Reunion - Corb Lund - YouTube
          family reunion its gonna be a good one!!! let me bend your ear Y? the clans all here !
          this is johnny's cash
          Last edited by willy96; 12-02-2011, 03:53 PM.

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          • #80
            and those boys trying to make fun of me ....

            looking at my hand looks like if i was playing poker i's a holdin a royal flush .. gotta know when to hold em gotta know when to fold em gotta know when to walk away better learn how to run ! i dont count my money when im sittin at your table ... there be time enough for counting when the game is done!

            hummmm

            KENNY ROGERS - The Gambler Video Movie Clips - YouTube

            lmfao

            CUZ I FOSTER THE PEOPLE WILLY'S PUMPED UP KICKS

            Foster The People - Pumped Up Kicks - YouTube

            feel like an ant yet ? jo you were probally out buying somebodys toys and you havent quite figured out why it works yet and your fishing arnt ya jo i know ya are ! jo please this is a stocked pond and there are no fishing signs posted every where

            you do that test yet ... sheesh jo i feel like a naggin old ***** ... jo come on gitty up !

            W
            Last edited by willy96; 11-04-2011, 05:57 AM.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by willy96 View Post
              we can build a don smith tpu!

              dont you ever think we cant do anything .. there is not much we cant do ..

              if to build a don tpu .. i reccomend a flb or an nst those tubes and bit of time ... you will be amazed !

              the nice thing of thease tubes are the heaters @1.25vdc

              makes it really easy to build

              W
              So are you having fun? LOL

              But that heater uses SO MUCH POWER!

              Gary Wright - Dreamweaver (1976)

              Seems you call anything with wire a tpu.

              When are you going to go over the theory of operation with us?

              Why havent you gotten any tpu to work in 5 years of winding millions of coils collectively? Not even one! No smith device either! Why not?

              People get tesla coils to work all the time! First build!

              Could your psuedonym Steven Marks really be the notorius:



              You have taken this thread all over the place, whats next how to catch mosquitoes with your tongue?

              Why would anyone build a project that you cannot even begin to explain, that has never worked for even one of the thousands of people who have wound millions of coils. I mean I just bought another 1000 shares of koolaide stock LOL
              Last edited by Kokomoj0; 11-04-2011, 06:00 AM.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Kokomoj0 View Post
                So are you having fun? LOL

                You have taken this thread all over the place, whats next how to catch mosquitoes with your tongue?

                Why would anyone build a project that you cannot even begin to explain, that has never worked for even one of the thousands of people who have wound millions of coils. I mean I just bought another 1000 shares of koolaide stock LOL
                He can't answer you right away, cause he has just fallen asleep overwhelmed with his TPU asterix cocktail :



                Or maybe he just has left the building?

                But, he is going to come back..., it's a matter of time

                After all, TPU takes time...

                Willy, this is for you!
                Last edited by cikljamas; 11-04-2011, 12:08 PM.
                "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                • #83
                  hey ever buy a 5$ silver ring put a cut in it ....

                  wrap a wire over it ... touch it to your tounge

                  you boys should try it ..

                  silver goes from 30$/ ounce to 300$ over night ..

                  hummm

                  wanna get retarted go do it to a gold one .. the nice thing is it can still fit the finger dare to shake my hand ..

                  its an uplifting experience ... you can imagine the shock you get it! and alberta its cool !

                  W

                  it really jo just showes how much of a poor expairementer you are as you can not even do that simple test ... you wine how i have not done this and not done that ! but jo if you just put that togather .. jo you would have your tpu ..

                  just so sad .. got the dow but aint got a brain ... i feel for ya jo .. guess what i got the brains the tpu and the dow !



                  all the other kids with the pumped up kicks you better run better run out run my gun jo your hair is on fire must a lost your witts!! it was such a nice genny set too !

                  anyhow joey ! that silver tpu is mine .... such a nice tiny toy ! sets peoples hair on fire !

                  here we are now ..... entertain us here we are now entertain us

                  here we are now!
                  here we are now!
                  here we are now!

                  btw jo i aint much for the kool aid clearly you are it has already rotted your brain ..
                  entertain us!

                  btw joey i told you food ! you gonna eat all that silver you just bought ? dont know bout you but i live on food ! not silver

                  if i wanted metals i just go fetch me a rock out my pile ... see! drop it in some ar! pull out some gold lol
                  but i's growing garlic organic ! cost 4cents each .. in 8 month each one is 4 bucks ... thats 100 fold jo ... not a bad return ... eh? kinda like my rings...
                  here we are now entertain us!

                  should i plant 100 000 joe ?
                  Last edited by willy96; 11-04-2011, 02:40 PM.

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                  • #84
                    know what is really kool joey !

                    you say those heaters use so much power it is a waste .. how bout this ... it's .3125w wich is a lot !! x2 cuz im nutz and thats over .5w wow it is a lot .. but guess what jo ..

                    jt it

                    who cares what it uses ...

                    W

                    now i was thinking of hooking up the pair as a full wave 30kv hi freq rectifier! THAT I CANT BLOW UP !

                    what ya think ?
                    Last edited by willy96; 11-04-2011, 05:26 PM.

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                    • #85
                      what?!

                      "W" what are you doing with those high voltage rectifiers?
                      You need triodes so you miss one legg and a grid.

                      However, those puppy's you got there can be used to explode tv set's when you overdrive them over 25Kv they start to emit X-ray's which establish a feedback loop and disrupt the other tubes so the tv goes into meltdown..

                      Here is a nice article on GE set's concerning this problem:

                      Electronics: X Rays in the Living Room - TIME

                      Notice the date Friday, Aug. 04, 1967
                      Last edited by Marcoz; 11-04-2011, 05:28 PM.

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                      • #86
                        its ok marco we gonna go slow ...

                        aa battery and an nst .. we gonna go slow .. just a cupple lite bulbs ...

                        dont worrie

                        W

                        i got a hole box full of triodes ... i was gonna give jo something he can burn his fingers on ...
                        see he keeps wineing .. so this should shut him up 4 bit ....

                        plus jo wants the wow factor ..... how much more a wow factor you want ! ?

                        i could close loop it too have the thing piss fire for ever


                        marco lets mount the tubes in a parabolic .. aim the ***** sell recievers ... could pop the things up in trees closed looped ... somebody need / loose a transmitter ? yo think i just found one ....
                        Last edited by willy96; 11-04-2011, 06:47 PM.

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                        • #87
                          so if some people dont have a nst or a flb

                          look for a flyback it will work great too ... wrap a jt useing the magic maker on the flyback core and fire at your own leisure take output from fly back rectify ... and step down or fire to a blowen incondesient

                          W

                          here we are now... entertain us ! jo it would be better if you wernt such a stiffler!

                          THE NPN MAG!C MAKER! .WM. WIERD MAGIC AND FREQ IN SICENCE! - YouTube

                          NPN MAG!C MAKER! COMPLEATED - YouTube
                          Last edited by willy96; 11-04-2011, 06:49 PM.

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                          • #88
                            here is a video showing some kool tesla devices ..
                            her video shows you all a lot

                            and i beleave it is still up for debate weather its a THP or a JT

                            use tubes and its a TPU

                            a Tesla Power Unit


                            W

                            Is this a Joule Thief, or a Tesla Hairpin Circuit? - YouTube
                            here is another one ...... you makes the conculsion...
                            Tesla Hairpin output measurements - YouTube
                            you makes a conclusion yet ?
                            Tesla Hairpin input measurement - YouTube

                            told ya the kids will blow your mind ....

                            Tesla "Hairpin Circuit" lighting 100 watt halogen bulb, under water as well - YouTube

                            just a bulb or 2 marco ......
                            Sodium lamp TESLA SHC 70W I engineering sample - YouTube

                            NIKOLA TESLA FORBIDDEN TECHNOLOGY !! FREE ENERGY LONGITUDINAL ELECTRICITY !! 2 - YouTube

                            o i wont go off on my waves but i know the spikes almost too well

                            NPN MAGIC MAKER WIREING CONFIGURATION EXPLAINED! - YouTube

                            left hand right hand .... NPN & PNP my MAGIC MAKER coil driver/ tuner

                            here are a few videos i made showing off the pnp magic maker ..
                            next thing with this toy is to make a 3D MODEL OF A GYRO AND DRIVE IT WITH MY BOARD ... MOTIONLESS hance the avitar....
                            JT TPU - YouTube
                            BROADWAY RA! BANGS THE DRUM! - YouTube
                            KALI CANADA.WMV - YouTube W's LOVE coil this coil gives the love in!

                            Overunity Demonstration Part 1 of 2 - YouTube
                            see kids blow your mind ... part 1 love it
                            Overunity Demonstration Part 2 of 2 - YouTube
                            part #2 aint that some sh!t HERE WE ARE NOW ENTERTAIN US WE ALL ALIENS BET JOEY IS FEELING KINDA HUMAN NOW ....

                            what is gonna happin in the 3d model where the coils x when i fire it 2 dirrections ... thing gonna float ?
                            Last edited by willy96; 11-04-2011, 09:21 PM.

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                            • #89
                              nst useing 120vac as supply ... ooooh no its all wrong .... !!!

                              lol


                              use an aa and the diode tube i showed you all ! first we go hot 1.5vdc then it is returned and amped cold then we rectify the cold to hot with the gain ... simple ..




                              W
                              Ozone Generator - DIY The Correct Way - YouTube

                              The Lie we live in a world where everything is Wrong
                              The Lie - YouTube
                              jo ya want one of them ? o jo i bet its hot on the fingers probally burn em right off!
                              Homemade flyback - YouTube

                              its hot and its cold
                              Last edited by willy96; 11-04-2011, 10:53 PM.

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