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  • Hey willy the vid on magnetics was really interesting, what they are not explaining is the electric field around a coil.
    Here's a pic of a solenoid coil frozen in ice, as you can see there is a field around the coil this I believe is the electric field, this is where the bar magnet or coil taps the aether.

    There is a lot more on this subject here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ld-magnet.html
    Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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    • yes the electric feild another point we can tap ..

      you took this picture and froze the water? coil is pure dc from a battery then frozen?

      neat eh!

      kinda prompts ya to put a cone coil in that electric feild dont it ....

      W

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      • Originally posted by willy96 View Post
        yes the electric feild another point we can tap ..

        you took this picture and froze the water? coil is pure dc from a battery then frozen?

        neat eh!

        kinda prompts ya to put a cone coil in that electric feild dont it ....

        W
        6 volts ac, one lead to coil out to bulb, other lead to bulb

        Yea thought about a cone coil just never did it, I need to freeze more, want to do a pancake to see the fields normal then bifilar already have them built , will get around to it.
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        • has anyone done dc lowvolt? if they have a compairison ? is there a diffrence in the electric feild? seams to me there should be between ac and dc i play mostly dc .. pulsed in my devices .. altho ac will work the same in most cases ..

          i really started understanding tesla when i figured out what edision had tesla do .. the dc generators way back were killing people when they switched of the generators .. tesla was employed by edidon to fix it ..

          that he did .. but in the process he saw the light ....

          W

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          • Originally posted by willy96 View Post
            has anyone done dc lowvolt? if they have a compairison ? is there a diffrence in the electric feild? seams to me there should be between ac and dc i play mostly dc .. pulsed in my devices .. altho ac will work the same in most cases ..

            i really started understanding tesla when i figured out what edision had tesla do .. the dc generators way back were killing people when they switched of the generators .. tesla was employed by edidon to fix it ..

            that he did .. but in the process he saw the light ....

            W
            I agree Tesla knew about the field, when the coil is turned off the electric field collapses into the coil windings (bemf)
            In a Tesla coil the spark gap stops the electric field from entering the windings when its pulsed so it surges into the magnetic field and therefore into the secondary windings.
            Last edited by Dave45; 11-08-2011, 02:58 AM.
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            • this is ac you tested .. have you tested dc ? well till i see a dc electric feild from a dc electro magnet . i will draw no conclusions on the electric feild of the magnet .. i tap magnetic waves .. in my devices i collect collapse witch is magnetic .. and i try to acheive gain ... some of my devices use induction .... im not taping the electric feild .. i acvheive ou with out tapping the electric feild ..

              so with pure dc im not sure the electric feild will be as you have pictured it .. that is an oslocating electric feild in ice .. tippically it is moveing n s n s in the water ..

              just what i see !

              i dont like the trrm BEMF .. it is as tesla calls it .. HEMF

              high electro motive force . caused from properly setting up the selfinduction of the coils ... creates hemf any way ..

              i aint here to argue i have proof i dont need to speculate !
              i have found useing higher voltage there is an electro stactic feild .. present you can some times get a static style zap or see a arc similar to static electricty .. i have seen radiateing electric feilds but an electric feild from dc .. not too sure .. a good simple demo would be a neon place it in the electric feild and show me it liteing .. from pure dc ..

              no ac ... it is not an accureate test as it is in constant movement! at 60hz

              W

              have you seen a tesla pattend where he is dirrectly tapping the electric feild ? because according to your picture of the electric feild .. i expect it is the outside feild in the ice is the electric ... i dont know as there was little description .. with the photo but if it is the outside feild .. i can not match this to a tesla coil ... the design dont fit !

              in a tesla coil the magnetics produced from the primary ride the secondary coil ... from what i understand there is a roll back wave .. much like a murshroom clould that keeps cutting the copper ... of the secondary hence the tall secondary ....

              i expect the center blast in the ice is the magnetic feild ... agin it is not accurate ... as it is ac ! so yep its neat ! but what ya gonna do with it ... it is going to give you missleading results !

              now there saclar waves aswell but i think they are acheived via magnetics activating quartz and the quartz releasing saclar they can also be excited via light , white lite resonance tempiture and harmonics ..

              but hey its tubes ... we play with here and anything else that hinges on ou !

              so for jo this motor i have built will be finalized via tubes ! and ready for pattend! sooner than later

              it is currently running transistors ! i tryed to take pictures yesterday .. they did not come out well im on that today


              see my pumped up kicks ? a nst a aa battery 2 vacuume tube rectifiers and a driveing tube ... get 2 nst's and 2 driveing tubes ... and 4 rectifiers fire it npn and pnp IN SYNC ... bite your toung and hold on .. THIS IS THE SH!T


              CUZ I FOSTER THE PEOPLE WITH THEM PUMPED UP KICKS !
              Foster The People - Pumped Up Kicks - YouTube

              DWW T2W ITS OUT NOW ... DOWN WITH WEBSTER TIME TO WIN

              I like the magic magnetic mushroom clould dont you ? easy tapping with all that roll back ...

              ALI " ITS ROLLIAN SPIN DAD" IT ROLLS IT SPINNS BURNS OUT THE COILS AND STINKS UP THE ROOM .....

              kinda like willy he rolls and spinns fires it up and stinks up the room! see they all smileing when i leave... and they head is spinn'in

              like i said i only smoke the best organic pumped up kicks !
              1 hit of my grass it will kick your a$$ you got yourself a bet !
              willy

              1 smack from my device it will kill your ass you got yourself a bet !

              O SIR IS

              be wize
              Last edited by willy96; 11-08-2011, 12:22 PM.

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              • I like the way you think willy, I'll be watching your experiments close
                Im not that good with circuits but theory really interests me, I'll freeze one with dc, we'll have a look, the ice is a window into the unknown only speculated about.
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                • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                  I like the way you think willy, I'll be watching your experiments close
                  Im not that good with circuits but theory really interests me, I'll freeze one with dc, we'll have a look, the ice is a window into the unknown only speculated about.


                  cant wate to see the results you find with pure dc...

                  now there other things to consider .. how about just freezing a perm magnet .. it looses its feild dont it ... hummm

                  well winding your coil is gonna make a diff! if you use an ac coil it is not accurate .. however it should still be tested the coil should be elevated in the vessel so as to see both sides of the coil in the ice and a polorized coil must be used with pure dc hooked up pos to neg then the same test conducted in the reverse polarity same coil ...


                  see how deep it goes so damm quick too !

                  ALI COIL CONSTRUCTION - YouTube

                  this is a polorized coil .. but i should have ran each layer out and did extrnal connections insted of crossing the wire between layers

                  but this coil works damm good! you will be shocked!



                  willy
                  Last edited by willy96; 11-08-2011, 01:31 PM.

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                  • my wonder coil is the best i have come up with .. in my opinion on a simple cheeply made device ..

                    the cost to make 1 is cheep really cheep .. out put can be quite large ...

                    i have mesured amps at 60 volts from 12dc or less as supply

                    high freq energy ! 11.47 khz i can change the freq easly ...

                    KALI CANADA.WMV - YouTube

                    W

                    and its small fit in the plam of your hand ...


                    just thought i would show ya ....
                    look how easy it is to remove the aa driveing battery and EXTRACT USEABLE POWER FROM MY DEVICE it is just that easy to close loop it !

                    NPN TUNER TOTAL DARK - YouTube

                    i will be building a tube magic maker too ...
                    Last edited by willy96; 11-08-2011, 02:12 PM.

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                    • Here's a permanent magnet thats been froze

                      Notice the angle of the electric field thats perpendicular to the magnet
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                      • i do find it hard to see placement and orentation of your magnet ..

                        have you tapped the electric feild ?

                        as i said im not tapping it ...

                        anyhow

                        i almost got my lab set up agin ... this is the last time i build public!

                        im doing this to cover some things i left out in past visits...
                        anyways i have located all the radios tubes amps and any other tube toys i have .. i have quite a pile already

                        aswell i colloect guitar amps i have a few .. i have a few coils that run in place of the speeker in a amp....

                        really simple tpu ... amp goes boom boom boom ring goes round round round .. i play with the knobs and can speed it up or doun ..

                        OMG IT's A UFO! yawn!

                        W here we are now... entertain us...

                        dave do you think there is a way to use the electric feild of a coil to interact with the earths electric feild ?.. and do 2 oppisit electric feilds repell each other in free space? my next question .. can we minipulate the electric feild of magnets be it ac dc or perm to repell gravity ?
                        Last edited by willy96; 11-09-2011, 11:51 AM.

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                        • Willy's Love Coils The Wonder Coil!

                          ok today i think we should talk of a lil gem i made a little while ago year or 2 ...

                          this is the wonder coil .. i have built a few diffrent modles .. "never showen public " it has a feroite core.. it has a rodin core .. they are combined in a single coil there very neat and cheep to make ..

                          i use a solid copper wire with a supper rubbery dielectric coating on the wires .. "makes a diff" thease wires ARE TWISTED ie VOP.... nuf said

                          i designed a pnp & npn coil i have my own way of windeing it .. they fire both dirrections ... half of the coil is air core the other half feroite..

                          the feed back loop happins with in 1 coil ...

                          did i hear ... someone is looking for one of my them there TPU'S?


                          W

                          this is my MAGIC MAKER
                          this is the core for a wonder coil showen in kali canada
                          this is the WONDER coil showen in the video
                          this is a NPN & PNP WONDER COIL FEROITE CORE AND AIR CORE in 1 coil it gets driven by W's MM

                          hows that for a stacked deck ?

                          do you think the magnetic and electric feilds will both colapse in the feroite core ?
                          Last edited by willy96; 12-20-2011, 12:11 AM.

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                          • wanna talk of angles ... take note to the angle the twisted wires travel on there way in and out of the core .. just looking at it .. im guessing ... 19.45 deg



                            W

                            verry verry cheeply put togather ... there is no mass circuitry involved in any of this stuff... just the knowalge of the coils and how they interact ..

                            there is no secondary showen on the coil .. i can place secondaires any where i desire in about 6 diffrent or more winding configurations depending upon what i want to tap ...

                            its a flexible coil ...

                            ok say i take the blue wire ... i fire it npn .... i then take the red wire ... fire it pnp ... WTF ends up on the WHITE WIRE?


                            lol

                            W i have oooo a few more of thease lil gem coils hanging out in the weirdest winding configurations anyone can imagine .... joey

                            now joey ... what is gonna happin i lock loop that orbit at a retarted speed useing a magnet ... joey it gonna fly ?

                            joey you listin to me?



                            damm world wants a UFO ...

                            here we are now entertain me ...
                            ill fly a starship across the universe devide ... and when i reach the other side i ..... meet joey !

                            damm ! all that way for that .... **** im going home ...

                            lmfao
                            Last edited by willy96; 11-09-2011, 01:36 PM.

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                            • "makes a diff" thease wires ARE TWISTED ie VOP.... nuf said


                              so your saying that a twisted pair increases the vop in a wire , why is that is the twisted pair canceling a field around it? I wonder if a caduceus winding would increase the vop even more, and even if we increase the vop we have to have something that will accept the charge just as fast, a cap?

                              Iv been thinking about caps a lot, Im going to freeze one, if there is an electric field present on the plates there has to be a magnetic field in there somewhere.

                              I havent taped the electric field in any way different than is being tapped already, the electric field and the magnetic field go hand in hand we are tapping it now just not in the most efficient way, just knowing the field is there and configuring our systems to make use of it will enhance our chances at ou.

                              You asked if we can use the electric field to interact with the earths field the answer is yes everthing we do interacts with our planets fields, here is a coil that was froze horizontal to the planet, notice the fields are not defined they are all mixed up, some even seem to be repelled.


                              wheras this coil was froze vertical to the surface



                              same coil.

                              I think ufo's or whatever make use of these two fields the basic design looks the same as the planet saturn

                              The A vector is the electric field surrounding that planet(magnet)

                              I think once we understand how these fields interact we can make anything,

                              I have a toroid magnet from a speaker, I need to get into ice
                              talk at ya later
                              Dave
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