Dr Stiffler SEC Replications?

[Inquorate]

hi guys, I am starting to realise the relationships between the three coils; I know one of the coils (coil 1) operates at a self resonant frequency that is a fraction (quarter, third, etc) of the spatial resonant frequency (determined by pigtail and coil length and speed of quantum transformation, 1.094mhz m/s instead of speed of light) of coil 2. coil 2 causes a vibration of the lattice that is a frequency that is possibly going to be determined by the length of both coils (and the sig gen cord if there is one) in meters, divided by a speed greater than light.

this is used to excite coil 3, which operates at a whole number multiple of coil 1's frequency; that is the parametric oscillator part- and must have a nonlinear component, hence the diodes reverse breakdown. this in turn pumps coil 1 up..

the snake bites it's tail.

coil one also probably has a quarter wavelength wire length at the frequency where it is self resonant. this causes minimum voltage and maximum amps at the end of the coil. coil 2 at srf develops voltage from spatial resonance. coil 3 resonates with the shaken lattice.

I will post more as I become more certain, over at hereticalbuilders.

Finding Self Resonant Frequency of an inductor
Finding Self Resonant Frequency of an inductor - YouTube

only investigation will determine what i'm wrong about, but I believe i'm getting closer.

[Slider2732]

Interesting thoughts on the coils Ben, I see where that is going and fits the kid on a swing analogy. Sort of a positive bump at each section, by all working as parts of a whole and all as important as another.

Some progress here tonight...about 3 light years behind your work, but fun to get back in to.
The circuit this evening has been one from some time ago, a copycat version of the SEC 18. Component placings are the same, but, the L1 is 100uH, L2 is an aircore prewound coil of unknown inductance, transistor is an MPS2222A. Main thing is that there is a connection out from the L1 and that goes to a piece of aluminium. It allows LED's to run from an AV plug easily enough and to strike up the circuit from a 1.2V rechargeable AA by touching the L3 pigtail to the block.
The circuit has also been found to fire up by either using a piezo lighter, or quite often by touching the circuit end of the L3. BTW, the L3 is very wrong, being of 200 turns and will be corrected.

After fitting a 1ohm resistor on the power supply, I can now measure current used (V=I/R). Previously, putting a meter in line would stop the circuit from firing up.
The best part, was that multiple LED's on the output not only lit to the same brightness as just 1, but that current consumption hardly changed.
26mA for the circuit to run, with onboard white LED.
27.2mA, with a satellite white LED and 4 others in a series line
The readings off the AV plug to the 4 LED strip were 7.5V, 0.275mA
Was overjoyed to see the current usage figure.


A guest is present in the photo, who was found in a cereal packet last week.
"Illuminating it is, in time shine brightly it will"

Edit - Have just measured the voltage on that battery and it's at 0.94V. So that's sub 1V running, happy to see that too.

[NickZ]

@ Inquorate, Slider, and All:
WOW. Great to see the old ship still going strong...
I've been staying up to all hours of the night lately, to watch how the snake bites its tail. Just to let you know, that some of us are still on it...very much so, even with or without all the proper equipment. As mentioned earlier, I'm good at feeling my way in the dark.
"Excited" to see you back, as I was wondering how all this great stuff could be just laying by the wayside, after so much effort to get this far. As it is possibly one of the most important projects, ever.

BTW: I did find a horse that I could ride, thanks to the Doc for the suggestion... and Slayer, Johnny Davro, Slider, and all the rest for their help.

Greetings, and Best Wishes, from Costa Rica.

NickZ

[Slider2732]

It's good to see you on the thread Nick, albeit i'll never catch up to your post count like this lol
I know that Ben will most likely have most input over at Heretical and I don't like to multi-post thread hog, so would hope that more folks get back into this fascinating circuit too.

Today has seen a good direction change - the circuit now uses 23.2mA.
How ? I added an oscillator !
The idea, is to feed back some of the output to the battery and, in time, just to a cap. By using as many blocking oscillators as the output will drive, we may have something to work with ! As things are, the oscillator doesn't even loop back in yet, yet it still has resulted in an amperage drop.

The working principle, is that each oscillator has to be able to be driven by human power - that is - a small piece of galv steel and the copper wire that connects to the positive input. If it starts up in the hand, with no battery at all, then it passes for inclusion in the feed around harvesting circuit. So far, I have 3 or 4 of them that will go on this circuit. The onboard LED will sit in series with the powering battery (or eventual cap).
Each output pulse of the flashing oscillator forms one input to the source.
Germaniums would work better, on the AV plug inputs and instead of the LED's and, indeed, only 1 LED need be lit for any evident self runner....but I think you know where i'm going

Here's the circuit at the moment.
The circuit at the front is the oscillator, flash rate of approx 18Hz (my Craftsman 82319 meter simply quit a couple of weeks ago and it used to measure frequency, piece of rubbish is nearly all SMD inside too).

[Slider2732]

Update -
The first of the oscillators is now completely away from contact with the main circuit. By using a bifilar pancake coil, with the outermost wire of it connected to the oscillator AV plug, the oscillator will fire up. Just has to be in the vicinity of the L3

[Slider2732]

Update 2-
A bizarre turn of events, one which needs to be explored.
The blocking oscillator is a 'Penny' type, one which Lidmotor clued us all in on. As in, a JT type, with 1meg ohm resistor and '104' 0.1uF cap across it to the Base and a 100uF electrolytic over the power rails
The Negative of the oscillator circuit goes to the Ngeative of the LED. The Collector of transistor now goes to the Positive of the battery, the Negative of the battery goes to the Positive of the LED.
As such, it is looping energy back to the battery.
The pancake can now be anywhere and the LED flashes away at approx 22Hz, or in other words, just short of being continually on.

I decided it must be being powered by the battery directly, so desoldered the AV plug from the pancake coil....the oscillator wound down and stopped
Only when soldered to the pancake does the oscillator run, but, as I say, now the pancake can be anywhere I want to place it and need not be near the L3 output.

[Slider2732]

Video here of cap charging and represents where i'm up to.
It's a 2200uF 16V cap and the idea was to see if anything really is being collected.

Upon swapping to a charged 1.2V battery just now, the rate increased dramatically from that shown in the video and it went up to 1.7V before slowing down. It topped out at 2.54V before it slowed the charge rate to a non useful amount.
Looking good for manual dumping to the battery at least

SEC cap collection test - YouTube

[conradelektro]

Can someone tell me in a clear and concise way what is ment by "SEC exciter circuit"?

May be I am stupid. Nevertheless I dare to ask.

I went trough this thread and through the one at heretical builders. But still, I could not find out which circuit is used by Slider2732 or other people positing numerous videos or saying more than a thousand things in the threads.

So a simple question:

Please, can someone post the circuit?

Or is it intentional that it stays a secret?

It is really annoying to read through thousands of posts and to see many videos on YouTube without knowing which circuit is used.

Is it such a problem to post a circuit diagram, e.g. at the beginning of a video? Or every now and then in this thread?

Greetings, Conrad

[conradelektro]

Why comes something out of thin air?

A second point I want to make is the claim, that something is received out of thin air?

As far as I understand, there is always a "SEC exciter" running from a battery. And then various attempts (various circuits) were discussed in this thread to receive "energy" and to light up LEDs (even a FL tube).

Well, these receivers seem to run without a battery. But the transmitter (the SEC exciter) always needs a battery?

Very confused,

Conrad

[captbuck-sec]

revisit Lidmotor's "3 Penny"

To lidmotor and slider and all working on stifler sec and psec.
I have been watching and experimenting for several years. I am in the US Virgin Islands and desperately need a breakthrough. I have solar system (about 3 kw) on my house and I have a 37 foot Tayana sailboat and use solar and efficient led lighting BUT
I am praying someone succeeds somewhere. Our power cost here on st john are 5 times national average and my monthly bill even with the solar is hard to believe..!!

Anyway I want to re- direct you guys to something Lidmotor developed last year using his home built sec 15 …..My 3 penny SEC experiment.ASF - YouTube

he called it his "3 penny circuit" and at the time I thought this was the most significant video he ever produced and I emailed him later asking for more follow up…… BUT I never saw any more.

I think this thread should revisit this 3 penny circuit and expand upon it.
My 3 penny SEC experiment.ASF - YouTube

I beg you wizards to re- confirm his finding and add more loads to the capitative coupling he created.

please tell me I am crazy for thinking that, that video proved energy was being captured from the aether.
thanks for listening. and thanks for experimenting.

I love your videos keep em coming
sorry to see peanut butter leave…he was doing great work

capt buck

[NickZ]

Slider:
Late last night I decide to try something that I've been wanting to do for a long time. I connected by Carbon/Al cell to my Exciter's oscillator.
After hearing of your less than one volt input to your circuit, I decided to try my homemade power cells. Just a single cell 0.75 volts, 12mAs, or so, for now, to see what would happen. Well, I got wireless, up to an inch or two away from the L3, not strongly but working, all the same. Circuit is running at only 0.45 volts, while connected up to the Exciter circuit. I will be adding more cells tonight. I seam to have fried still another transistor, so I think I'll need to buy them by the kilo. Ha!

Conrad: I remember you asking about the Exciter circuit specs and diagrams before.

So, I hope this helps you out. Good luck.

Early 18x Documentation Release

[Slider2732]

@Nick - that is excellent, truly something when a homemade cell powers up such things. Your 12mA continual output under load isn't to be dismissed either.
Short term for your transistor woes, i'd recommend salvaging from junk 1980's/1990's battery pocket radios. You'll find bunches of high hFE, low voltage switch on transistors in them and hopefully for free if you put the word out locally.
Costa Fective perhaps in your country

@All
The layout can be seen in the pictures within the documentation link Nick gave and the components assessed. The reverse of the board is shown lower down in a picture and what you have to do is link the top components to the traces shown. Perhaps the best way, is to print out both Fig1 and the reverse of the board. From that, an emulation can be made.
I believe the L1 should be 10uH and the L2 100uH, but am not sure. My own circuits need a lead out from the L1 to start up and need a heatsink as mass from that to run...so they aint right. My couplings appear distinctly singular.

The major issue and caveat of such an approach, has been the respecting of Dr. Stiffler's work. While he didn't ship outside of the USA, he was for a long while selling the boards within the USA. Back engineering and flagrantly blatantly making such circuits is something I would like the Dr. to address again in mid 2012.
He may consider the 18X an offering to the world, he may not and while I can apologise for being cautious, it doesn't help anyone else by my appearing coy!
Can we build them and yet never refer to them as SEC 18X, as acknowledgement that they really aren't ?
We have his wishes at heart, to explore and further, to keep the project going for such people as Capt Buck....but with the likes of my own circuits, I know I don't have the correct capacitive spacings, construction methods and more. Heck, the L3 on this present one is of 200 turns, woefully wrong compared to the 63 specified that I now know is the actual turn number.
Wrong construction will give wrong conclusions - it's partly why I understand Dr. Stiffler's viewpoint on his work and protection of it. Also, it's why i'm not chasing Znidarsic frequencies and more with gusto at this time. To show any scope shot on a circuit which is not Dr. Stiffler's exacting build dimensions and componentry, would not be beneficial to the understanding of the actual exact circuit.

If i'm wrong tell me - it was why the video I posted was going to be 'Unlisted' and meant for the people of this thread. BUT, the wish was to get things moving again and I know I have at least subscribers on my YouTube channel that may have an interest, but not know that the thread had kicked back in again. Conrad is perfectly correct in his bewilderment.

All that being said - we seem to have a different position for countries non USA. Inquorate has developed the circuit to an exacting degree in Australia. I would dearly like clarification on the Dr's position of that circuit, in terms of any open source availability and whether the idea is to sell such boards for the market there and elsewhere.
Sure a homebuilt emulation may work, but easily to only a partial degree, as described above with my own.
From the Panacea video on the previous page, even the hole spacings of an original carry a capacitance that is important.
I do know Ben is the leading researcher for all things SEC, pertaining to Dr. Stiffler's work and that the Dr. himself has apparently moved along with a high power PSEC.
As a team we can further this and discover much more.

[conradelektro]

Thank you for responding!

@NickZ + Slider2732:

Thank you for the information. Now I know that I understood the situation, I just could not believe it.

Greetings, Conrad

[Slider2732]

Progress today -
In the Panacea video on the previous page, Ben showed a uA meter, converted to receive cohered energy.
I built one today. It's a Signal strength meter from an old hi-fi, with an AV plug and a piece of copper wire as an aerial. The wire is approx the same length as the pigtail off the L3. Longer than that the reception was actually reduced.
It works great and i'd recommend building one...though I think Ben used an L3 in the box of his uA meter.
Speaking of L3's, I tried several different sizes of coil and winding amounts, but the 'wrong' 200 turn one actually works the best for this circuit i'm using. I found that another coil can sit in between the circuit board and the L3 and the circuit will run, but it works best with just that L3. I'm not quite sure why.

Tried the pennies experiment too, but couldn't get a result as Lidmotor did with his SEC 15-3. Connecting a penny to the L3 resulted in a drop of output, no matter what the tuning was set to. Btw, to solder to copper pennies, just scrape randomly near one edge and use solder paste. The solder will then stick well for a wire to connect to the penny.

In the pic below, you can see the pennies at the back left, an LED at the front, with the meter at the back. The signal strength is all the way to the right when the pigtail and aerial are next to each other, which I thought was a good base reading for results further outward.




Update -
Being as the various L3's failed, I wondered if they may have even a partial use. Also, I wanted to get away from the largeish metal block that is needed for the circuit to strike up at this voltage.
So, now the main satellite LED is connected to one L3 and another is on the Signal meter. The meter has become more sensitive and, is shown here approx 2" from the main circuit L3. The metal block has been replaced with a piece of galvanized steel.
There's not much power available with this circuit and a rechargeable AA, but it's fascinating to attempt improvements.

[NickZ]

I remember that Raui also showed a type of output signal tester of sorts also. That was made using an Av plug and a couple of the small 103 capacitors. It was then connected to a volt meter to read the difference that tuning the coils and pigtails would make on the output. I also used it to test the outside ground connection output through a diode. I had made one at that time and it did work well for what it was used for. I'll probably build another, especially if I find the diagram that he showed, or I might just be able remember how it went well enough by memory to make a new one. It was simple enough, and worked well. Maybe Ben has the diagram still, if he remembers what I'm mean. He may have given it to Raui in the first place.