Dr Stiffler SEC Replications?

[jamesgsnelson]

Multiple Receiving Antennas Connected Together

Hi Guys,

I've been watching you guys' videos and been doing a bit of experimenting myself. I was wondering if anyone has tried this yet? I got the idea from watching people adding pickup coils to their pulse motors.

Dr. Stiffler’s SEC has shown that the amount of load when connected wirelessly does not draw more power consumption from the transmitter. Therefore, we should be able to place multiple wireless pickup coils, AV plugs, and other receiving antennas to draw power from the transmitter. By connecting these receiving antennas we should be able to multiply both Voltage and Amps, without drawing any more power consumption from the transmitter.

[xee2]

Dr. Stiffler’s SEC has shown that the amount of load when connected wirelessly does not draw more power consumption from the transmitter.

When you are coupling off small amount of power this may seem to be true but it is not. If you try this you will find that you can not couple more power out than is put into the transmitter.

[jamesgsnelson]

Thanks, I thought it seemed to good to be true.

I just got my first Pill Bottle coil wound this morning and have made a jig for winding them. I'll be experimenting with them for a while.

[Slider2732]

Jamie

Yes indeed, as Xee2 says, there appears to be no limit and yet there must be. We find that when attaching more and more of the same devices. At a point, all devices will dim together. There's nothing wrong with extracting everything up to that point though to increase efficiency and that may be what you were thinking ?


A traditional way of thinking about it, is that the energy that is wirelessly transmitted brings thoughts on feeding it back around. However, ultimately, there's still going to be a small loss. The most efficient setup would have no LED's lit and so would just generally take longer to stop, without doing anything useful.
A non traditional viewpoint (and why a lot of us are still interested in especially Dr. Stiffler's setups) says that at a certain resonant frequency, with careful calibrations, the received energy can be in excess of the output energy.
Dr. Stiffler himself has shown the PSEC apparently doing exactly that !

Oh and, a pill bottle eh, a 'Walgreen' ?

[jamesgsnelson]

I’m glad to see that you guys are still pursuing this.

My thoughts were since the wireless range is quite short and I already have the wire infrastructure in my house, is to use the wireless to power the lighting circuits for the house through the fuse box. Rather than having wireless repeaters all over the house.

Slider, I could not get my hands on the coveted Walgreens My pill bottles are from Health Mart Pharmacy, but I’m sure they are pretty much the same. I still need to rig up a wind counter to my jig so I can make them consistent. My first one that I made yesterday is 30AWG.

I’m still trying to get a primary to work with it. Both primary and secondary are wound CCW. I’m using 3 – 2 inch turns of 14AWG with the insulation on it. Would it work better with it off? Also, I saw you had the primary in the inside of the bottle on a couple. I can’t find that video again for the life of me. That is what I wanted to do. What do you think works best?

I'm not getting any wireless off it yet using a 1K resistor and a 2n2222 transistor. But, I haven't done much fiddling with it yet.

[Slider2732]

Ah thanks. I know the 'Walgreen' isn't strictly Dr. Stiffler related...except in the fact that as an L3 they do work well on the SEC 18x circuit.
Mainly I just wanted to see it
Your Primary should be wound in one direction and the Secondary in the other..i'll bet that's the problem. Just swapping your connections to the Primary should fix it though.
Shoot for 850 turns and a Primary of 2 or 3 turns. You can put a conical Primary inside, or a simple couple of turns.

Walmart and Walgreen small pills bottles are of just about the same physical dimensions, the only difference is the style of the plastic for the lid to go on. Any plastic bottle of an inch or wider diameter will work, less than that and ferrite may be needed inside.
Here's what I mean, with drinking straws as the diameter: Straw Resonance - YouTube
The larger diameter version of the 'Walgreen' with the same height is what my 'Windsor' was made from. The 'Windsor' is more in keeping with Tesla's geometry, but the 'Walgreen' has an equal perfomance and is a tad smaller.

Here's what i've got away with using in past experiments
The Windsor with a very rough twirl internal Primary: The Windsor Tesla Tower, twirly rough L2 - YouTube
Bashar/Russell internal coil: Bashar Tesla Windsor trial run - YouTube
Levitating toy car with working lights, scruffy conical internal coil: Flying with lights on - Mattel DeLorean - YouTube
1.2V Walgreen, twirly conical large internal coil (shown at end): 'Penny' at 1.2V - High Voltage - YouTube

'W' in keeping with Wardenclyffe

[jamesgsnelson]

I wound a bigger L2 and my results are here. Wireless Electricity Part 1 - YouTube

I’m using this circuit with the “Walgreen” tower. It looks like I’m getting more of an induction effect than a “real wireless” effect.

My L2 is ~2.5” Diameter with 5 winds CW of 14-AWG insulated single core. My L1 is a pill bottle 1.25” Diameter with a 2.16” tall coil wrapped around it CCW. I didn’t count the turns, but I’m estimating that there are ~200 turns. Just a single layer of 30AWG Magnet Wire.

Slider2732, Did you wind several layers on your Walgreen to get that many turns?

Any suggestions are welcome.

[jamesgsnelson]

I did some re-arranging and have it running with this Slayer circuit now. Oops. I just blew my transistor, while writing this. I think I need a bigger resistor or maybe a POT? Any other good ways to protect the transistor? Anyone using Capacitors in their circuits?

[xee2]

Any suggestions are welcome.

Your LED is reducing the Vce voltage across the transistor by 2 or more volts. That means you have less than 4 volts for Vce. I think it is better to put LED on base. Also, if you can get a 1K variable resistor you may be able to tune for better performance.

[warrensk]

SEC replications

Hello, I have been keeping up with Dr. Stifflers work for the past year or so. I have replicated everything other than his PSEC. One thing I did notice was some activity on my spectrum analyzer (indeed a harmonic excitation of some kind) without any current being pulled from my battery. I was even able to light up LEDS wirelessly around the excited coils without the circuit running...or tuning LED being on I should say. This would only happen at certain sharp tuning right around the 13.4 Mhz Range. I will post some pictures of it soon. The effect was real, however the amount of power available was very little and any attempt to start another SEC from the power would either start the circuit into oscillation or kill the oscillation. Also, from my understanding a PSEC is a hard replication to do, due to his "proprietry" transistor making his circuits much more able to do so. I am using the MPSA06 's. I have made a couple circuits with diodes instead of transistors in the model of his PSEC's with diodes instead of transistors. These however I have only turned on by excitation from another SEC. I can post pictures of that as well. I think now is a good time to dive into the theory and start applying it.

The joule theif circuits are neat with the wireless electricity thing, but seemed to me no way applicable towards what Dr. Stiffler is doing, or trying to show us....

Also, did anyone of you guys catch the dr's "new diode electrolysis # 10" its not up anymore, and I didnt copy it, but if anyone did please share. It showed his setup with the battery running through the water and the SEC stimulating the water while charging the battery and making lots and lots of hydrogen. Not sure what the standing voltage was, but if it was pulling current it was pulling 40 ma and making a whole lot more hydrogen than usual, enough to run a flame consistently. Im disappointed it wasn't up longer. This however does not mean we should be giving up or looking into joule thief circuits. For those of you that are still working on Dr. Stiffler's work, dont give up, im right there with you!

Best of luck

[jamesgsnelson]

I’m not sure if this is what Dr. Stiffler had in mind or not, but this is what is going through my head.

Basically, to get electricity, we want to move or vibrate electrons in a wire. If we don’t have enough electrons, we need to get more. The best source is Earth, but a mass of metal will do. The way I look at voltage is this. Volts are a lack of electrons. Kinda like electron suction, since electrons are attracted to Volts.

Doing this through resonant frequencies and harmonics seems to make sense. If we think of the crystal wine glasses, all ringing, when one of them is excited by rubbing the top or how a tuning fork will excite a music wire that is tuned at that pitch (frequency).

We know we can tune coils to desired frequencies, with the proper equipment. It seems that we need to find a naturally occurring frequency to base our design, then use harmonics of that and it will excite/vibrate the electrons to produce electricity.

[warrensk]

SEC frequency

yes! I believe with proper energy recovery, a battery can maintain a charge at the same time using the slosh of current and voltage to do usable work. Say you vibrate water, causing it to separate with SEC excitation, while recovering the energy it took to cause that vibration and put it back into the battery? the result would be hydrogen and oxygen and a steady charged battery. This is just what has been going through my head lately, a hunch. The frequencies you could apply it to would be limitless.

[Slider2732]

Warren

13.4Mhz - check
Excitation into self oscillation - check
Sharp tuning - check
MPSA06 - not sure

Inherent to Dr. Stiffler's approach has seemed to be the reported Negistor properties of a few transistors. 2N2222A, 2N3904, 2N4401. Now, weirdly enough, they are the 3 in a pack of 5 each that can be bought at Radio Shack !
Why ? i've never worked that one out and so it raises some thoughts. A clever disinfo, correct and RS bundled them because of that trait, or maybe it's just how it goes as a fluke.
However, didn't the Dr. ship SEC18X's with MPSA06's ?
Would like all that clarified, as well as my memory of him having a 2N2222A in a PSEC without the Base leg connected.

Would also like to see some pics of your setup

Yes indeed, the inductive exciters aren't the same, it's a different form of wireless transfer. Such systems are a great intro though to the importance of tuning, applications of build skills and familiarity with the tolerances and uses of related components.
JonnyDavro's huge Joule Thief exciter thread is the better place for some of the circuits, but the relevance is there for this one

I saw the experiments with the battery and the electrolysis...especially of note was the zero amperage video. He said there was a small margin of error within a milliamp for his test equipment. Whatever the error, that was a very low input if it wasn't completely nothing !
Your results are confirming many wondered aspects


@Jamie - Another heatsink option is to take some aluminium sheet and bend it tightly around the transistor, with a small amount hanging off to one side as the escape route for the heat. Your copper penny is fine though, can superglue it. I've used hotglue before now...if the glue melts then the transistor is heating up.
Or, in fact, bring the Slayer Exciter more in line with Dr. Stiffler's circuits. Run 2x diodes and an LED to the Base. Xee2 is right if connected to the Emitter, you'd just drop input voltage.
Anything to do with heat is always waste...so the best thing is to drop the need for heatsinks or indeed resistors performing the same job as a mini electric cooker ring lol
I see you have a 1K resistor, that should be around 24K, otherwise to much current is going into the Base, hence heat. Too high and output will drop.

Your Walgreen should be wound with approx 38 gauge wire, single layer. I get mine from old Mabuchi 3V cassette player motors. 850 turns and 2 or 3 turns of the wire you have there for your Primary will be fine. From that, you should see plasma at 6V.

As a first go and introduction circuit it's done you well...CFL lighting is a good step forward, if indeed only via the induction.
Have subscribed to your channel

[jamesgsnelson]

Thanks Slider. Upping the resistor seemed to do the trick I put a little aluminum top hat on it too. It doesn’t get to hot now, unless I run 18 volts through it. I got a little carried away and blew out one. You also have access to a lot more junk than I do and much more patience.

I did have interesting results today with this. When I got to about 4.5 VDC my tower was able to partially light a CFL. Then I was able to drop the voltage back down to about 3 VDC before the CFL went out. If I drove the voltage up to around 6 VDC and more my digital multi-meter went nuts. I think I was starting to see my coil resonate.

I think I need to try to rig up a scope for my PC. I have a few high-end audio recording interfaces. I may be able to do something with one of them.

Unfortunately, I just found out about Dr. Stiffler’s work and what you guys are doing in the last month. I have been trying to scrounge as much info as I can from all your videos and now this forum and am playing catch up. Slider’s Walgreen Tower seemed like a cool project and as good of place to start as any. I’ve already learned a lot. Please bear with me.

Most of the greatest discoveries were made by trying to do something else. That is one reason I think hands on experimentation is so important. You are a lot more likely to stumble upon something unexpected and useful than you are if you’re just thinking about it.

[warrensk]

PSEC replication?

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Here is a video of some of the work I have done.

Dr. Stiffler SEC replication with PSEC - YouTube

First of all, I built myself a little coil table where I can experiment with the excitation of the coils. I am driving the middle coil as the L3 and have a capacitor hooked up between the L3 and the metal plate on the bottom. This allows me to adjust the capacitance between the coils and the plate. When I tune the circuit it will go in and out of oscillation switching on and off. At a certain point, the circuit turns off, but is still giving an output. The output is only there when the PSEC is hooked up to the coils. The PSEC seems to be stimulated by the driver circuit, even though it is off. Later on I tried disconnecting the center coil from the driver circuit and it still works. The PSEC is no longer attached to the driver circuit in any way. It is being stimulated into excitation by the non oscillating circuit hooked up to the solar panel. My question is now, could the solar panel and driver circuit be acting as a parametric circuit oscillating with the environment thus stimulating the coils enough for the PSEC to start running and exchanging additional energy? I will keep any updates posted, but I feel I am close to a true PSEC replication with only a ground or wire to act as an antenna/counterpoise. Let me know what you think. I will post another video in a couple days that is more organized once I get some time to experiment a little more. This is the first time I have noticed the output only stays on if I have a PSEC hooked up the the coils which are being excited. Very close to what Dr. Stiffler shows in his PSEC replication videos.

Warren