Dr Stiffler SEC Replications?

[Slider2732]

Cheers and yeah...bit like Edison going to sleep on the lab floor, i've been up overnights on this stuff and thoroughly enjoying it.
Also realised that I mispelled pigeon

Here's a 'not only but also'.
As described as a test above, a 1.2V 120mAh Ni-MH thoroughly discharged battery was connected up (has sat next to its regular charger for months).
Here are the readings as logged:


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1.2V 120mA Ni-MH considered 'flat'
Test conducted while circuit running, as per Pigeon Loft video

12.33 0.840V
12.34 1.000V
12.35 1.100V - slow down in charge rate noticed
12.37 1.125V
12.48 1.185V
12.53 1.194V
12.58 1.199V
13.03 1.203V

The longer the time connected, the more current available.
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[ashtweth]

Hi ALL, Thanks Johny , slider et all for the vids, We are gonna try and stick to the original for now, thanks to the many talented people we have here and at heretical builders , we have started to try replicate this effect, i am going to get help and try and find others with equipment near our area to see if they can assist in helping the Aussie PSEC replicators, crawling only with this thing ATM.

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[Lidmotor]

Slider's "Walgreen Tower" replication

@Slider
For months now I have wanted to build one of your "Walgreen Tower" (pill bottle) exciters. Yesterday I finally made one and played with it all day using it on a Slayer Exciter circuit. Today I got it to work on a modified Dr. Stiffler SEC circuit design. It is a neat little tower and works amazingly well.
I also worked with it driving Penny wirelessly with an earth ground connected to an AV plug attached to her input clip leads. These "Penny" circuits will run off "local energy" from house CFLs also I found out.
I am like you in that once I get going on something it is hard to stop. Some nights I have to force myself to go to bed. This is all very interesting stuff but I agree with you that trying to make a PSEC is probably way beyond the "kitchen table" lab level.

Slider's Walgreen exciter.ASF - YouTube

Lidmotor

[kcarring]

PSEC vs. SEC

Would it be correct to say the The Dr. in his SEC studies, first amplified a spatial resonant frequency using a bit of power input and a transistor, whereas, now, with the PSEC, there is no transistor, no amplification other than what occurs with inductors and capacitors and resistors, couplers? What part does the ground play, he gets the ground from an instrument? Is this a true earth ground or a mains ground? Thanks

[Slider2732]

@Lidmotor - It's so cool to see another Walgreen out there !
One envisaged application of these small towers, is within setting up a SEC type device. I dunno about you, but I had difficulty matching up inductors that will run, never mind if the whole circuit actually worked or not. By using a known system of a small tower and internal coil as you did, a circuit can be known to run and then inductors trialed.

In Dr. Stiffler's videos he normally shows a Ground lead running to a piece of test equipment.
I may be wrong, but I see the Ground as a base, a different reference frequency but a known one. With my own but apparently effective method of using the mains grounding system in collaboration with a stake outside (which I still haven't worked out how it works) there is a big ramping effect. If a system uses such a reference, then the possibility exists to bring in virtual Grounds after a tune up and run with no wires to anything. It would explain the importance of the metal mass in his videos.
I don't know, just a guess

[Lidmotor]

Location Location Location

[QUOTE=Slider2732;167284]@Lidmotor - It's so cool to see another Walgreen out there !
One envisaged application of these small towers, is within setting up a SEC type device. I dunno about you, but I had difficulty matching up inductors that will run, never mind if the whole circuit actually worked or not. By using a known system of a small tower and internal coil as you did, a circuit can be known to run and then inductors trialed.

In Dr. Stiffler's videos he normally shows a Ground lead running to a piece of test equipment.
I may be wrong, but I see the Ground as a base, a different reference frequency but a known one. With my own but apparently effective method of using the mains grounding system in collaboration with a stake outside (which I still haven't worked out how it works) there is a big ramping effect. If a system uses such a reference, then the possibility exists to bring in virtual Grounds after a tune up and run with no wires to anything. It would explain the importance of the metal mass in his videos.
I don't know, just a guess [/QUOTE

@Slider
It seems that WHERE you do these experiments makes a difference. Some people can light an LED right off the ground but I can't. I would really like to see another researcher who works in a RF lab replicate Dr. Stiffler's PSEC. I don't think that we stand a chance. We would need at least a good spectrum analyser to tell us what we were seeing.

Lidmotor

[Slider2732]

And a bit of common sense over here
Earlier, I extended to charging high voltage caps..the idea being to let the system charge up a 150uF 200V cap and see if the discharge would light a neon.
Well...when it charged to 20V, I wondered what kind of wireless output would be derived at that quick blip discharge of voltage.
Pressed the little button to connect into the circuit
That killed the C2785 transistor i've been using good and proper
Well, I now perhaps have an upgraded circuit, after finding a PN2222A on an old house phone
So there we are, transistor instantaneous destruction by using no conventional power.

As to location, my Ground is out of the window in the next room. The stake itself is a piece of steel not copper, of 1" diameter and 6" length. Didn't think it would be much good, but seems to be fine. Wire distance is 10ft, if that, and we've had plenty of rain recently. No need to grow daffodils with watering like Tesla probably did.

I fully agree about the spectrum analyser. In the video where he moves the two coils forward and back until the 13MHz spike occurs, that's the ticket for this. You have to actually see where each turn unwound or item moved plays a part in the complete system.

[jonnydavro]

Hi Lidmotor.Great experiment with the walgreen tower and I would say that what you have there is actually a new variant exciter as you have added direct induction to the Docs sec as a method of generating HV so a double wammy and i bet it would look strange on your scope.Really nice.
Regarding Lighting leds of house grounds.I am in the same position as you and I can't light one downstairs but my house has three floors and if i go to the top of the house it will light
@Slider.Really nice work and the Leds in your latest vid look really bright and I think you have found something really important that can be developed.You mentioned in a comment that you are seeing a constant 62.8VAC at the cap.Maybe you could try a voltage multiplier circuit and bump this voltage up and that may brighten the leds up some more.
I hope to be joining you on this experiment and i will be banging a 5 foot copper pipe into the ground tomorrow .Truly inspiring work going on by all.Jonny

[Slider2732]

Having a rethink here and borrowing a technique of Mr. Lidmotor's to do it - Radio !
Seems obvious now, but, been moving my AM radio around the circuit when it is both powered on conventionally and when it is running from just the Grounds.
When running from the Grounds, the signals are at certain places, high notes, buzzes, warbles. When conventionally powered (at the touch of a button to swap from one to the other) the notes change. However, some areas remain exactly the same and have the same intensity too
The L3 affects reception to 6", but, increases to different distances as a shape. It's not rounded out, it's probably a sort of oval and we know Dr. Stiffler raises his L3. My desk is wooden too. Will spend some time mapping this, then will make changes and see if the field shape changes. I'm wondering if field changes relate to frequency of running and that we might look for a shape or signal output change at 13MHz resonance.
Hope that makes sense.

Hoping to do more with the AC yeah Jonny. It's a weird output, because it diminishes to about 0.7V with a DC load. DC reading on the meter at the moment is 29V, AC is showing 63.1V...so about half for DC, which would be right.
Been looking at a Cockroft-Walton circuit
Cockcroft–Walton generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

About lighting LED's to good brightness.
Take a wall adapter that has an on/off switch and plug it into the wall. Leave the switch in the off position.
Solder an AV plug to the negative lead from the adapter.
Solder an LED to the AV plug.
Take your outside Ground wire and attach it to an LED leg.
You should see the LED come on

[Lidmotor]

Avramenko

@All
In doing my daily research on the web I found this article on Avramenko. It was a reminder of how all of this is tied to Tesla and his ideas on how best to transmit energy. The AV plug is an important aspect of what we are experimenting with. Dr. Stiffler's PSEC relies on it.

Resonance methods of electric power transmission

Lidmotor

[Slider2732]

Very relevant and a great read
(A coagulator sounds like the function of a persons nose who has the flu).
Google Chrome didn't link over to the article when the link was pressed, but did when selected to open the link in a new window...just in case anyone else has any troubles that way. It might be something funky with my internet provider though, being as the site is Russian.

In the method described above, of at least partially lighting an LED with no body capacitance, everything is ramped up by the Avramenko method.
The LED bank in The Pigeon Loft has the single wire coming in from the L3, splits at the AV plug and runs through the LED's in series.
The 2 pin output connection is derived from the outputs of the AV plug, goes through the mains voltage 105K capacitor and out to tester circuits etc.

2 conditions so far known may explain the present AC voltage of 63.5V:
A huge potential increase by using the diode function of each chained LED.
Or, an induction effect from the mains supply makes it through the switched off wall adapter and the voltage represents losses, compared to the mains voltage that actually sits within the wall outlet.
I'm more inclined to believe the losses scenario at this time.

To make the head scratching turn into a snowfall of dandruff, the readings when taken from a straight AV plug split of the negative rail from the wall adapter are hugely different.
Using 1N4148's, the AC reading is 2.00V, the DC reading is 2.13V
Placing a similar mains rated capacitor across that AV plug produces AC 2.10V and DC 2.04V



A direct connection of a 'Penny' oscillator to the AV plug and wall adapter Negative wire produces nothing. However, connection to the output pins and cap derived from the LED bank of The Pigeon Loft has been demonstrated to run the oscillator.
It's that source which Jonny mentions, for the ramping of power and, which will be the next part of expanding this concept
In experiments the other day, I was able to pulse the main circuit to fire as a full SEC. Placement of a PC heatsink metal mass and linking through various tested capacitors, could bring slow pulses at high illumination of the onboard LED's of the SEC or more constant but lower illumination.
Testing whether it was truly running or not, by placing my AM radio next to the transistor, clicks could be heard as the transistor fired.
Lidmotor you might agree - The 'Penny' circuits operate similarly...a constant light but low LED output can be changed to a much stronger but flashing output. Capacitance matters !
Ramping that discharge, to a constant replenished level will drive the SEC without conventional input power and produce a version of the PSEC.

[quantumuppercut]

I think if we can find a way to step up voltage from milivolts range, we can light up anything. If I have a 1 volts, I can use an oscillator to boost up to 100 volts, but how can you step up to higher voltage with a .1 volts source. I think this is the secret of the PSEC. Maybe using coil in resonance we can.

SEC 02: 98 Red LEDS powered from Spatially Resonant Coil - YouTube

[minoly]

Nice work Slider!
thanks for keeping all that open. I seem to recall Dr Stiffler mentioned someplace that we all need to loose the power supplies - there are many things that go on in his ckt that can be effected by them.
anyway, you've got an awesome tenacious apatite for all this. I look forward to the continued success.

here is an example of one reason we would want to eliminate power supplies, building, and other equipment grounds from the SEC builds.
Strange oscillating affect...Psec Maybe? - YouTube

[minoly]

here is an example of one reason we would want to eliminate power supplies, building, and other equipment grounds from the SEC builds.
Strange oscillating affect...Psec Maybe? - YouTube

PS- Dr Stiffler has extensive experience in this field so I'm sure he has monitored his ground and that it is clean. As for me, I would not know where to begin...

[NickZ]

Notice to all: Pigeons included.
Last night I made my version of the AV plug. But saw no effects to show or tell.
So, I thought, well, I must not have gotten it right. No pigeon roust, could be the reason why...
But, today the plug started to work, very dimly at first, and better as I started to figure out what it likes, and doesn't like. Boy, it is one sensitive instrument, and my only one, at that, as even my volt meter petered out on me. So much for all the needed test gear, and stuff. So, damn the torpedoes, pigeons, and what not, we're going in... barehanded.
Anyways, I also connected a ground wire to a big cement pot outside my house, and although it's not the greatest ground, it did work with my new AV instrument.
So, wow, I thought, I'm in like Flynn, and the pigeons.
To be continued, Part ll tomorrow.

NickZ