Dr Stiffler SEC Replications?

[NickZ]

khwartz:
The question was in reference to the leached Ac house wiring noise found in all Ac house ground connection, but not found in a proper outside ground. This has nothing to do with Tesla, or what he did, or didn't do.

So, long as people use the AC ground that is located on their test instruments or anywhere throughout the house they will get a dirty ground, with Ac hum or noise , that can especially affect tuning and output test results for these types of circuits.
Minoly, I believe it was, had sent a interesting link of a video of someone showing how that can foul us. As they were brightly lighting an led bulb off of their test instruments AC ground connection. Maybe he would like to upload that link to us again. Just for future reference, as it makes a very important point, for those of us still unaware of that.
So, if anyone is in doubt of where the juice that is lighting their leds is coming from, and if it is or not from the Ac, just turn off the house breakers. This will not affect the workings of a circuit or device when proper outside earth ground connection is used.
BTW: I notice that some guys are using styrofoam type flat sheets or cups to isolate their circuits. Looks like a good idea.

@Slider: I also have several of those type of ferite beads, but no reference yet to their values. There is reference information about them on the internet, but I haven't found the good link to that yet.
Is there a circuit you are using to make your own SEC circuit oscillators?
NickZ

[Khwartz]

@Slider2732

Very thanks Slider2732 for the Very Nice "Welcome! I do appreciate and to admire my very unique nickname

What I do appreciate too, Slider2732, is the effort you made to provide me a summary and pertinent links; very very thanks for the help to save my time and speed our seek, and understand my difficulty with english language.

I've let some posts too this evening, I wish they could help and create new ideas of investigation or what ever.

I wish to be back soon here to up-date, but I can't promise when because of my many occupation and lake to organize me smoothly. But I will follow the discussion I think, with my e-mail alert.

Thanks again for all the materials you provide to me,

and Mary Christmas again to everybody!

Regards.

[Slider2732]

I agree with you about using what is normally all around us. The very point, that noone would wish to have a device put in a Faraday cage within a vacuum chamber and all the rest, if they want to power a television and watch it !
Noone is going to care where a device gets its energy, but we must care, we must know where the energies come from.
When identified, both in frequency and power that can be derived from those sources, then we know what we are working with.
Also, emitted fields from domestic appliances like TV's and washing machines can have very real effects on the human body. Leakage that is cohered into real usable energy may certainly lessen such problems for all of us.
Trap it, remove it, cohere it, use it.
So, an extension to those thoughts is to use a 'pick-up coil' assembly placed on or within such items and those energies are then directed as the supply source for a SEC system

My wife had a great thought about a presumption people make, that if you use such a system that works similarly (in some broad ways) to a foxhole/crystal radio, that you take power away from someone else who wants to listen to a normal radio nearby.
Rubbish - in her opinion.
As she said - If 4 sunbathers are on a beach, 3 of them don't remain white because the 4th is draining the sun's power away

[Slider2732]

For a circuit diagram, I used the one by Inquorate. I'll let him post it though if he wishes, as it's not mine.
You can see the component placements from the pics on the early documentation link above.
Here's the thread on Heretical Builders, which has lots of useful info: Exploring Dr Stiffler's Spatial Energy Coherence and Spatial Resonance effects. - Heretical Builders

[NickZ]

khwartz:
I think that you can use what ever source you wish to use, if it serves your purpose. But if the Ac power goes out, so will the circuit that is dependent on it to work. I don't know about grid line transformers, 4th line and such affecting things, or not, as that has not affected my tests. What I've seen is that once the grid is down, all that is directly connected to the Ac house ground, goes off. Don't need to take my word for it, see for yourself.
Some led lighting effects from Av plugs are nothing more than leached Ac. but not all, if you have and use a proper outside ground. the effects you see are not coming the grid wiring ground noise, hum, inductance or other man made noises found on the grid house grounds.

[kcarring]

As she said - If 4 sunbathers are on a beach, 3 of them don't remain white because the 4th is draining the sun's power away

That all depends if she's got rap on her radio blasting away, and the other three dig themselves into the sand to escape!

[Inquorate]

it bothers me that more people haven't worked out where the energy is coming from yet.

[Khwartz]

@Slider2732

Very thanks for the link, Slider2732, I went there, but looks to me that it doesn't go further than the 18-X, while I'm looking for now only systems without any power supply in the circuit, but to amplifier the basic overunity effect at maximum, and then, when reached significant power, could be I'll will care for other boosting systems.

What I would like to work on, is to propose way to improve the basic selffeeding system, or at least try too! like I did in my previous posts; and to have exchange with you all here to make progresses on an efficiency viewpoint in terms of power (if we want to largely distribute a such device, we will need to really get a power or it will remain sporadic or completely unused, and a power with rather cheep means).

A thing I would like to know, is what is the difference you make with this thread and the other one you shared to me? I mean: where I'm supposed to go for this? Because here was looking to me it was well ok, as I could read your posts here

[NickZ]

it bothers me that more people haven't worked out where the energy is coming from yet.

Inqourate and All: Yes, it seams to bother the Doc also. I have done what I can to explain how Ac ground interference can and does affect things, although it is not the reason that the PSEC circuit works, and has NOTHING to do with how it functions.
I've received some PMs confirming that once the Ac power was cut off or disconnected, that their circuit also failed to light the leds, due to the effects of parasitic Ac. being remove.
So, we need to get past this hurdle, and/ or see it for what it is, and that there is more to this than just leached Ac. I hope that I'm clear on this.

I appreciate your information on the approximate coil dimensions, and such. I also realize that I'll be bating in the dark, but that is for me, or the rest of us without the proper gear, to worry about and to try to resolve.
I'm good at feeling my way around in the dark, or I wouldn't be going after this, in the way that I am.
Guided by instinct...
NickZ

[Slider2732]

Some background on why I wish to use these type of circuits to limit house radiations. I hope it allows others to see why i'm a posting ***** on this topic lol

There's an overview page for the household EMF problem here: Electromagnetic Fields and Paranormal Claims

That website is a good example of where I get my thinking and is based on personally experienced effects. In 2003 I formed Spirited Investigations, a paranormal research team, which at one time had a few members and a very active 250+ member messageboard on Yuku. It was all quite by accident, having wished to simply research a torn down rather intriguing local mansion, Marbury Hall in Cheshire, England.
What started as a simple foray into the history of the estate, turned into a bizarre experience. Reports from local people, were that the house was haunted..hmmm..ok.
Well, bought a portable recorder and took my digital camera up there. Quite quickly and to cut a long story short, voices began to appear on the audio. Not rubbish indistinct ones either. That was why I started the group, to find out more.
Two local women, Jackie and Christine got in touch about research at the estate and we ended up ghost hunting together, good friends. They later went on to host Rescue Mediums, a TV show and perhaps I missed out on that as they did say that a third member would be a good idea. Instead, I met my wife and came to the USA.
Here's Jackie and Christine's website, with info on Marbury Hall and the book they wrote about it: Feathers Academy
Within all of this, was the purchase of meters etc, energy field gauges but hardly scientific instruments. They are generally called 'EMF Meters' and Spirited Investigations had a couple of them (K2 and Dr. Gauss). They work well as a ready guide to the extent of a possible paranoia or ghost presence feeling by a person who believes their house is haunted.
A person may spend a lot of time playing games say on their computer, which features a large CRT monitor. That setup may be positioned next to the wall where their electric meter sits and they also may have a few other mains gadgets plugged in around. The needle of such a meter can easily spike past 20mG ! Right where their head is !
So, in some ways of thinking - no wonder they get freaked out - the brain is frying !
Add the crystal formations of the rock structure where the house sits upon, or power lines nearby and, you can see that such persons may indeed begin to have weird brain effects - as cited in the link above. Whether one believes in the paranormal aspects or not, the electrical energies are quite real.

So, part of this research is to bring forward a good detector, a good amplifier and use that amplification positively. The device must limit energy seepage, control emissions...and then, cohere such energy into useful energy.

In my opinion, all of the fundamental work and in many ways every derivative will owe great respect to Dr. Stiffler. No unit should ever be intended to become a sales item...without his blessing or indeed without his profit from it. If such a device were produced and worked reliably, then the benefits are multi-fold.
I agree with Nick, that reliance on AC seepage is a non starter for a self runner. I fully believe that any system that truly uses cosmic particles will not care whether the house mains is on or off. A truly cohered energy system will 'grab' that energy, but will not rely upon it.
There's so much electromagnetic noise in our environments that to let it blast into, through and out of us without being cohered is a huge waste.

[NickZ]

Slider and All:
Good points. I also agree that there can be more than meets the eye with all the electromagnetic waves and effects present all around us. And, that some can possibly have negative affects on our life and health, without our even knowing it.

It appears that some of the frequencies or lattice reactions that we are after, are within the radio frequencies range, but are NOT coming from radio, Tv, ham radio, stations or tranmitters, etz...
So then, what are these frequencies and what is causing them or where are they coming from? They could be cosmic signals coming from space, the lattice, or from our own planets vortex created vibrations, and such.
Or, the signals are being produced only by the circuit and its coils interaction with the environment or lattice effects generation that is surrounding them?

Some people like Lidmotor may use what is available to him, such as the strongest radio frequency or station closest to him, to see if he can get some light or energy produced from that source. Similar to how a crystal radio works.Then later maybe shift over to what we are really after, to tap into non made made signals or lattice induced resonant feed back.
So, knowing what something is not, also has a benefit and a point, and can help us to understand what it is we are really seeking.

[Slider2732]

Indeed, we need to know everything that impacts the local area of an exciter circuit. Broadcast radio is easy enough to measure, with a radio, but not neutrino's and other exotics !
Some will never cause an influence, but some may detract as well as some may help.

Some great news from here tonight...I got 1 of those identical self builds running
To run at 1.5V, the original runner circuit I made had its L1 value increased to 150uH. For some dumb reason, I didn't think to do the same sort of inductor swaps on these two.
Originally fitted with 100uH, they would flash their onboard LED's but immediately quit again.
Well, I increased one of them by mounting a second L1 underneath the board in parallel with the first and she fired up. That L1-b (as it may be called) is of 15uH, for a combined 115uH.
It shows that some stacking is possible.
Also, merely by coincidence of that L1 inductance it would seem, the circuit now needs just a short clip lead on the L1 output instead of a big metal block.
I'd do the same on the other but have no identical 15uH inductor! The idea now is to trial the second one with some round blob type inductors from a stripped down satellite receiver and, if one works, put the same type on the other circuit.
It may also be noted, that using a 3.7V Li-ion or a 1.5V AA produce exactly the same LED illumination and wireless field strength. Kinda weird.

Shown here running:

[NickZ]

Slider:
Glad to hear that you got it running...
The exciter circuits reminds me of the way the Hartley type oscillators work.
In that they can be connected to various voltage sources from 0.6 volts to 12 volts, and will light the leds used without much different in draw. I think that this has to do with the small caps that filter and limit the voltages, so they won't burn the transistor out at the higher currents levels.
I would think that the passive SEC circuit may also be built using regular known inductors like the or 18x board comes with, and the frequency controlled by the use of trim pots and variable capacitors. Or with some type of antenna coil frequency tuner, like the ham radio people use.
Any ideas about this are welcome.

[Slider2732]

I believe that Dr. Stiffler said one early circuit was a Colpitt's oscillator in essence, so a Hartley would seem equally valid. The likes of Lidmotor's 'Penny' type prove out the low power running...with our capacitor can salts cells for instance
About the caps...on these emulations of mine that run, i've tried different types. It was noted early on, that the original SEC 18's had a range to use of around a '103' (0.01uF), as marked on ceramic orange caps and the tiny yellow barrel types. The most common of those on junk gear is the '104', which is 0.1uF and those do work. I'm not seeing much of a difference yet between types and that's something for the scope to sort out. Round bead type '223''s were added in parallel to the '104''s last night and a circuit still ran. However, the tuning pot has never really done anything unless at max or min range.
I expect all of the subtleties to come froward when the test gear arrives.

On mine so far, a regular axial inductor is always used on L1 (as per the Dr. Stiffler design). L2 on the twins are currently a matched pair of air coils from a hi-fi amp. Very small 10uH axials don't seem to work as L2, but the larger versions of the same rating do. Mass on L2 is therefore my thought.

Speaking of tuner circuits - today I was looking at the old satellite unit with the blue blob inductors. Noted on the board was a 13.462MHz 2 lead oscillator crystal
Could we construct oscillators using the range specific crystal and tune to approximate the aetheric cosmic signal ?
Then, a small adjustment using your ideas above, would feasibly bring it in to PSEC quality, to carry on running when the crystal based oscillator is switched off.
It has airs of the Steven Mark TPU, firing up with a source and then carrying on without that source.

Here's part of that board, with a couple of the blue blobs to show the inductors i'm talking of and the crystal.



Some good Pierce, Colpitts and more oscillator designs that could use such a crystal:
Caliber Electronics, Inc.
or
Quartz Crystal Oscillator and Quartz Crystals
But, i'll tell ya what is a heck of a read and i'm learning much from, this:
http://www.bgaudioclub.org/uploads/d...er_Matthys.pdf

[NickZ]

I'm trying just to use the 103, or 104 types ceramic caps, but I don't know if they will work as well with the passive type circuit yet. They may work better for higher voltages like 12v. They may be too restrictive for my outside ground, as the only wired connection to the circuit.
Removing the little glass diodes like the 914 or 4148 from junk pcb is also difficult as the used ones are hard to know or to tell which ones they are.
I'm miles from a town or electronic parts store like Radio Shack which is two hours drive away, so I'm doing what I can with what I have on hand. Seams like the glass diodes do work though, and I just test them for voltage increase off of the outside ground. Some of them will give me up to 2 volts or more, on just the ground connection, even if only for a second then drop some.
I've also been trying the different inductors or beads that I have, to see what I can do with them. It's all fun... once I get some more light increase on the Av plugs leds I'll have more to go on.