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  • a guide to lattice excitation for ppl w/out spectrum analysers

    bit of a guide for ppl without a spectrum analyser.

    i spent hours with a metal block to transistor base trying to get the homebrew circuit to show znidarsic frequencies but no joy.

    once i did get it going with the dish you can see in front of the coil. must be better aluminium?

    next step is to make a better replication. i hope this helps someone out a little.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn0v-SldHU8

    cheers
    Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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    • Loop Antenna---signal booster

      Originally posted by xee2 View Post
      @ Lidmotor

      The wave trap can also be used to boost strength of a single frequency. From web page you referenced:

      "Another use (I always like dual use projects) for this device is a MW signal booster. Connect the terminals to an antenna and ground. Then place the internal loop of the radio within the field of the wave trap. As you tune the wave trap, you will hear a large increase in the signal. I can hear Toronto which is nearly 500km from me during the day."

      The amount of signal boost depends on Q of wave trap resonator. This is actually the most common use of a resonator. I think you will find this use very interesting.

      Also, from: Terk AM Advantage - C. Crane Company (800) 522-8863

      "You can also use it without the wires, and improve your AM reception just by setting the antenna near your AM radio (through a process called inductive coupling)."
      @Xee2
      I took me awhile to put the pieces together but I got there. Thanks for telling about those antennas. After I got my AM radio working I started looking at these non-powered wireless loop antennas and decided that it was worth trying to make one. It worked better than I thought it would and there might be something about it that applies to SEC. It seems to amplify the signal using just the RF energy in the air. Dr. Stiffler's 3 coil system might relate to how this device works.

      Here is my homemade version of this non-powered antenna amplifier:

      AM Radio with wireless Loop Antenna.ASF - YouTube

      Lidmotor

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      • Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post

        Here is my homemade version of this non-powered antenna amplifier:
        I suggest first tuning into a weak station when the external loop is far away from the radio. Then move external loop close to radio and tune it to the frequency of the weak station. This should give you the most signal boost.

        EDIT: You can also add more external loops and get more boost (but the boost is smaller with each additional loop).
        Last edited by xee2; 01-21-2012, 06:00 AM.

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        • No response using external Loop Antenna on crystal radio

          @Xee2 and All
          I tried the loop antenna on an "non-powered" crystal radio and got no effects. I was hoping that it would show an amplification of the crystal radio output but there was none. Why it worked on the regular AM radio and not on the crystal radio I have no idea.

          I am STILL not getting enough energy out of the air to light an LED no matter what I try. I refuse to use the house mains ground ---or the ground terminal of an electronic device as I truely feel that proves nothing. I only use the "earth ground" stake outside my home.

          There is alot of energy flying around but getting a grip on it and concentrating it -----is not easy.

          I hope that if someone IS successful that they will step forward and explain how they did it.

          Lidmotor

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          • @ All:
            I just saw this video, and it reminded me of what may be going on here in this thread. It may have nothing to do with it, but then again, it might.
            What do you think???
            Quantum Resonant Gyrator: Demonstrating Tesla's Radiant Energy with Low Voltage DC - YouTube

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            • Originally posted by NickZ View Post

              What do you think???
              The video was well done. BUT, this is another example of someone who does not know much about electronics creating garbage terms to explain something simple. DC amp meters will always read zero amps when fed with AC current. The circuit generates high voltage AC at a high frequency. There is only one wire, but the return path to the circuit is a capacitance link through the "antenna wire". Just because the return path is not visible does not mean it is not there.

              In this video both ends of tubes are capacitance coupled to circuit. >>>>> xee2vids's Channel - YouTube
              Last edited by xee2; 01-23-2012, 06:47 PM.

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              • Something about their message regarding how a coupling network both sends and receives more like a transceiver, they also touched on modulation, displacement current, those are things we still learning about. They mentioned Konstantine Meyl and Tom Bearden, Steve Jackson and scalar energy. The radio sounds they demonstrated are interesting they did'nt talk riddles. I have a wait and see attitude about the gyrator guys.

                I am working now with coils from the aspect of precision matching instrumentation.

                The video is a good find, thankyou Nick
                Last edited by mikrovolt; 01-24-2012, 01:03 AM.

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                • Guys:
                  According to what was explained to me by Inquorate, a PSEC can not be replicated by using the small chokes like are used on the 18x boards, instead of using the tuned hand wound L1 to L3 coils. Although I had figured as much since the chokes are not used on the passive circuit, it is good to hear it from someone.
                  In any case I'm still hoping to find a way that a passive SEC circuit can be replicated without all the needed test equipment, by coping and using exact coil dimensions and tuning pots and caps. Any help in that direction would be most welcome.
                  Thanks to Inquorate for providing some of the needed information for the making of the home made replications of the L2 coils on the powered SEC circuits.

                  NickZ

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                  • @ All:
                    This is the second part of the video from the Gyrator guys:

                    Quantum Resonant Gyrator: Scalar Physics made easy! - YouTube

                    NickZ

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                    • The PSEC ( P indicates Passive SEC ) just as a crystal radio uses no power
                      the PSEC requires no power source once it is running.

                      The L1 is a 10uH small fixed choke looks like a resistor it is located near the input and is positioned vertically.

                      Inductance is very important and Dr Stiffler recommends using an inductance meter such as the AADE meter

                      The L2 has about two layers of AWG #26 this can vary. It is wound on a sewing bobbin.
                      The inductance depends on what frequency you are using. The L2 can be considered an extension of L3 because it can make some finite adjustment.

                      The L3 has two holes at both ends. It is important to measure the distance
                      between these holes with accuracy. In this way the length can be used.
                      As you unwind you get higher (frequency). Then there is the ratio, that is diameter to length. I agree with Inquorate that the size plays a role.
                      The Q is nearly broad banded and the shape of L3 a coupling factor.
                      Winding and unwinding the coils will drive you crazy at first take, the total length of wire like a fractional wave antenna roughly.
                      again the length or distance between the holes will get you in close proximity, develop a spreadsheet that works for you.
                      Last edited by mikrovolt; 01-24-2012, 04:58 AM.

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                      • Guys here is a video Ben made for tuning the PSEC, hopefully we can get some equipment to him as a thank you, will do our best.

                        An Overview of PSEC Tuning - YouTube

                        Ash

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                        • Outstanding news, and very helpful video. My best wishes to Ben and all involved with the continuance of this work.
                          NickZ

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                          • NickZ, hails and support to you bro, lidmotor and all here too man, we wont stop till we find out how the doc did this and can share it with all .

                            Ben invited us back in a few months, that guy wont quit , thats why we love him

                            Ash

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                            • Thanks for the vid, that really was a good interview, overview and demonstration

                              I agree with the 'unit' thoughts mentioned by Ben.
                              We know the physical sizes of many Beta device components, such as L3, main circuitboard, even any metal mass working as environmental trigger mass can be worked through. While batteries themselves seem to be beneficial to this and similar circuits, if only for their own dense mass, then the inclusion of a mounting point for power would seem appropriate. But, when moving to full PSEC, then the battery area needs the ability to be removed or to have a switch for charging (thoughts being to bump start the system and then charge up the battery with PSEC output, via an automatic cap dump method). These circuits will start up with 1.2V AA rechargeables, so high power isn't needed to begin oscillations and the parametrics. Charging becomes much easier to envisage at this point, if the bare minimum 'strike up' voltage is ascertained.

                              My own forays became hampered by the duff acquisition of what I thought was a signal generator, which ended up being a 1980's version of a PC soundcard
                              However, now got a decent 2 channel scope, more understanding of own built SEC emulations and the uA meter shown in the vid looks to be a great idea.

                              The video was like clicking a piezo lighter at me, i'm fired up to move forward

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                              • hi guys, I am starting to realise the relationships between the three coils; I know one of the coils (coil 1) operates at a self resonant frequency that is a fraction (quarter, third, etc) of the spatial resonant frequency (determined by pigtail and coil length and speed of quantum transformation, 1.094mhz m/s instead of speed of light) of coil 2. coil 2 causes a vibration of the lattice that is a frequency that is possibly going to be determined by the length of both coils (and the sig gen cord if there is one) in meters, divided by a speed greater than light.

                                this is used to excite coil 3, which operates at a whole number multiple of coil 1's frequency; that is the parametric oscillator part- and must have a nonlinear component, hence the diodes reverse breakdown. this in turn pumps coil 1 up..

                                the snake bites it's tail.

                                coil one also probably has a quarter wavelength wire length at the frequency where it is self resonant. this causes minimum voltage and maximum amps at the end of the coil. coil 2 at srf develops voltage from spatial resonance. coil 3 resonates with the shaken lattice.

                                I will post more as I become more certain, over at hereticalbuilders.

                                Finding Self Resonant Frequency of an inductor
                                Finding Self Resonant Frequency of an inductor - YouTube
                                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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