Visual Phenomena Observed in Tesla, TARIEL KAPANADZE etc.. Research

[Duncan]

Chalk and cheese

ok kool but I have no idea what point you are trying you are trying to make

The difference between your picture and this https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...2520floyyd.png for instance is so blatent it requires no further comment .. you picture is a hertzian phenomina note the sharp horizontal scatter in this shot.

[Duncan]

linear wave no such thing?????

Hallo,
I may report successfully captured propagation of natural plasma phenomenon, produced by a capacitor pulse discharged trough the coil and one ordinary light bulb.
Interesting is that observation may prove existence of external energy source and possible conversion to usable energy.
I will try shortly to describe observation.

1.png: Shows bulb connected to the capacitor, closing loop with a coil in series, generating high vibrating electromagnetic field in the blub filament wire.
We may observe energy attraction (extraction) from environment to the oscillator (bulb) as a propagation of the blue ray towards oscillator.
We already have current flow in the filament, but not light effect, since it is not produced by conventional circuit current as may be believed.

2.png: Shows next frame in time when blue ray (“ether extraction”) reach the light bulb oscillator causing well known phenomenon differently described in conventional science.

3.png: Shows full conversion as visible brightness in the bulb filament closed in the vacuum. We still see blue ray (energy) flow towards oscillator.

4.png: Capacitor discharged current is disconnected and we may see decreasing oscillation of the filament manifested as glow and heat as side effect. There is no observation of blue ray.

5.png: Same as 4, further in time frame.

There is much more to say regarding presented observation relatad to Tesla rays and there propagation as historically described in some old drawing and statements, but for now I appreciate any comments.

If someone decides to verify observation, pictures are clipped out from my last YouTube video.

Regards
d.

Good solid resarch with an object a method ( some actual doing something) a result and a conclusion right or wrong thank you very much dole

[Kokomoj0]

The difference between your picture and this https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...2520floyyd.png for instance is so blatent it requires no further comment .. you picture is a hertzian phenomina note the sharp horizontal scatter in this shot.

Sorry but I do not see any difference?







maybe there is something in all those pics that I fail to see? I dunno?

[MonsieurM]

maybe there is something in all those pics that I fail to see? I dunno?

Neither do we....that is why we are exploring this side of the OU research...just keep your mind open...and a keen sense of observation

I am not saying you are wrong about it, I'm saying there is something to it; don't be so quick in dismissing it.

In 1889 Tesla began experimenting with capacitors charged to high voltages and discharged in very short time intervals. These very short pulses produced very sharp shockwaves which he felt across the front of his whole body. He was aware that closing a switch on a high-voltage dynamo often produced a stinging shock. This was believed to be static electricity and it occurred only at switch-on and only for a few milliseconds. However, in those few milliseconds, bluish needles of energy stand out from the electrical cables and they leak to ground, often through the bodies of any people standing nearby, causing immediate death if the installation is large. While the generators of that time were rated at some thousands of volts, these discharges were millions of volts in intensity. The generator problem was eliminated by the used of highly insulated switches which were provided with a very large ground connection.


Tesla was intrigued by this phenomenon which appeared to match the effect of his capacitor discharges. He calculated that the voltages produced were hundreds of times greater than could be supplied by the capacitor or generator. It was clear that the power supplied was being amplified or augmented in some way, but the question was, from where was the extra energy coming?

If he was not intrigued by this phenomena, we would not be here having this discussion

[Farmhand]

Neither do we....that is why we are exploring this side of the OU research...just keep your mind open...and a keen sense of observation

I am not saying you are wrong about it, I'm saying there is something to it; don't be so quick in dismissing it.

Quote:
In 1889 Tesla began experimenting with capacitors charged to high voltages and discharged in very short time intervals. These very short pulses produced very sharp shockwaves which he felt across the front of his whole body. He was aware that closing a switch on a high-voltage dynamo often produced a stinging shock. This was believed to be static electricity and it occurred only at switch-on and only for a few milliseconds. However, in those few milliseconds, bluish needles of energy stand out from the electrical cables and they leak to ground, often through the bodies of any people standing nearby, causing immediate death if the installation is large. While the generators of that time were rated at some thousands of volts, these discharges were millions of volts in intensity. The generator problem was eliminated by the used of highly insulated switches which were provided with a very large ground connection.


Tesla was intrigued by this phenomenon which appeared to match the effect of his capacitor discharges. He calculated that the voltages produced were hundreds of times greater than could be supplied by the capacitor or generator. It was clear that the power supplied was being amplified or augmented in some way, but the question was, from where was the extra energy coming?


If he was not intrigued by this phenomena, we would not be here having this discussion

The phenomena described there has nothing to do with light beams coming off light bulbs, it's about switching transients.

How exactly do you draw a connection between the smear from a camera capture of a light and a switching transient ?

Did you notice in my video the smear rotates with the camera ?

I know Duncan will probably say I am asleep and the light beams in my video
are somehow different from the others and whatnot, but I don't care, his
condescending rhetoric does not affect me.

Switching transients are well enough explained already I think.

Cheers

[dR-Green]

Quote:
In 1889 Tesla began experimenting with capacitors charged to high voltages and discharged in very short time intervals. These very short pulses produced very sharp shockwaves which he felt across the front of his whole body. He was aware that closing a switch on a high-voltage dynamo often produced a stinging shock. This was believed to be static electricity and it occurred only at switch-on and only for a few milliseconds. However, in those few milliseconds, bluish needles of energy stand out from the electrical cables and they leak to ground, often through the bodies of any people standing nearby, causing immediate death if the installation is large. While the generators of that time were rated at some thousands of volts, these discharges were millions of volts in intensity. The generator problem was eliminated by the used of highly insulated switches which were provided with a very large ground connection.


Tesla was intrigued by this phenomenon which appeared to match the effect of his capacitor discharges. He calculated that the voltages produced were hundreds of times greater than could be supplied by the capacitor or generator. It was clear that the power supplied was being amplified or augmented in some way, but the question was, from where was the extra energy coming?

I'm not sure that quote is quite right

Gerry Vassilatos - Secrets of Cold War Technology.pdf

[MonsieurM]

Thank you guys, the point i was trying to make is not to be too quick in dismissing visual cues as not being indicator of some occurring phenomena

[MonsieurM]

The phenomena described there has nothing to do with light beams coming off light bulbs, it's about switching transients.

It was the word "intrigued" that interested me in the text not the phenomena described.. misunderstanding happen

[Kokomoj0]

Neither do we....that is why we are exploring this side of the OU research...just keep your mind open...and a keen sense of observation

I am not saying you are wrong about it, I'm saying there is something to it; don't be so quick in dismissing it.



If he was not intrigued by this phenomena, we would not be here having this discussion

well by that I meant that maybe I was missing something that you all see, but apparently that was not the case.

the phenomena that tesla describes I have personally felt and describe some of it here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=9887

[dR-Green]

the phenomena that tesla describes I have personally felt and describe some of it here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=9887

I suggest reading the image I posted above. These are all different effects in different situations. The effect Tesla describes is due to a large capacitor discharge, not switching a DC dynamo or shorting a transformer. The quote MonsieurM posted is NOT how it was originally written, it says completely different things if you read it carefully.

Of this surprising physical effect, Tesla was exceedingly intrigued...

The explosive effects reminded him of similar occurrences observed with high voltage DC generators...

This hazardous condition occurred only with the sudden application of high voltage DC.

[Kokomoj0]

I suggest reading the image I posted above. These are all different effects in different situations. The effect Tesla describes is due to a large capacitor discharge, not switching a DC dynamo or shorting a transformer. The quote MonsieurM posted is NOT how it was originally written, it says completely different things if you read it carefully.

it doesnt have to be "exactly" like that however to get those effects

[dR-Green]

it doesnt have to be "exactly" like that however to get those effects

It wouldn't be surprising and similar if it was the same effect

[TEKTRON]

Hallo,
I may report successfully captured propagation of natural plasma phenomenon, produced by a capacitor pulse discharged trough the coil and one ordinary light bulb.
Interesting is that observation may prove existence of external energy source and possible conversion to usable energy.
I will try shortly to describe observation.

1.png: Shows bulb connected to the capacitor, closing loop with a coil in series, generating high vibrating electromagnetic field in the blub filament wire.
We may observe energy attraction (extraction) from environment to the oscillator (bulb) as a propagation of the blue ray towards oscillator.
We already have current flow in the filament, but not light effect, since it is not produced by conventional circuit current as may be believed.

2.png: Shows next frame in time when blue ray (“ether extraction”) reach the light bulb oscillator causing well known phenomenon differently described in conventional science.

3.png: Shows full conversion as visible brightness in the bulb filament closed in the vacuum. We still see blue ray (energy) flow towards oscillator.

4.png: Capacitor discharged current is disconnected and we may see decreasing oscillation of the filament manifested as glow and heat as side effect. There is no observation of blue ray.

5.png: Same as 4, further in time frame.

There is much more to say regarding presented observation relatad to Tesla rays and there propagation as historically described in some old drawing and statements, but for now I appreciate any comments.

If someone decides to verify observation, pictures are clipped out from my last YouTube video.

Regards
d.

Thanks Dole. Could you do another vid of that and barrel roll the camera.
while filming please. Ive mentioned it twice I guess they don't know what a barrel roll is. TIA, John

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post168640

[Farmhand]

Thanks Dole. Could you do another vid of that and barrel roll the camera.
while filming please. Ive mentioned it twice I guess they don't know what a barrel roll is. TIA, John

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post168640

Hi TEKTRON, I rolled the camera in this video Violet Smear.wmv - YouTube
And the purple line went with the camera.

The line shows up with DC and AC but lower frequency AC shows the Zig Zag
effect more clearly than HF AC I think. The lines are mostly not visible with
the naked eye. But they show up on camera.

Cheers

[Duncan]

a long shot..

Thank you farmhand that throws a bit of light (excuse the pun) what you refer to as condescension isn't! it may perhaps be frustration however, and the possibility that I and some others are seeing something different I don’t discount. That there are various well known well documented photographic effects that can be duplicated I have never doubted for one moment. But think of what started this thread, It started because I had noticed very much the same laser type beam of light with horizontal scatter in many video's which I believed to be running with a C.O.P better than one.
I have taken not one not two but three giant assumptions, And also included a good spoonful of gut instinct.
Assumption 1/ There is such a thing as a machine that runs OU by means yet to be discovered.
And I'm sure we have all tried enough red herrings and false trails to be aware that this is difficult to prove however some machines I believe in a/ because the evidence is over whelming or b/ I have tried it and the results are encouraging. An example of the first might be Stan Mayer an example of the second in my case would be Raoul Hateums machine still for most people OU = lunacy

Assumption 2/ That there is any such thing as a linear wave, conventional science does not teach or accept that there is any such thing and the certainly doesn’t accept a speed of 291,000 miles/sec the existence of the “luminous Aether” is also not accepted and neither is the possibility that it could be formed into a linear wave despite the fact that we can tune to it.

Assumption 3/ That the machines and inventors I choose are “honest brokers” and the systems are actually OU, I believe Tks machines to be so and Raoul Hatems machines and its off springs like Thane heinz for instance hence I've posted pictures of them but

Its OU machines we are searching for and evidence Its our passion and quest! Having said that I realise there are only going to be very few on you tube or where ever caught in the right conditions that actually work.
In short if you were a gambling man I'm expecting you to believe.. impossible odds going on the first horse going onto impossible odds on the second horse going onto impossible odds on the third horse going onto an uncertain runner. And yes I do see that very tight laser like beam with its very sharp horizontal scatter very different from that generated of your Tesla coil (great build by the way) but of course not an OU machine. and very different from all the “smear” shots.
Still the quest goes on however we do know a standard hertzian light smear does roll with the camera as expected, Lets hope we can catch a linear wave in the same action. suspect it will roll as well but it is the scatter and the laser like properties I shall be interested in .. still yet to be seen .. Thanks for doing the Video it does give a good comparison
and the fact that there are changes AC and DC and HF is encouraging .

Hi TEKTRON, I rolled the camera in this video Violet Smear.wmv - YouTube
And the purple line went with the camera.

The line shows up with DC and AC but lower frequency AC shows the Zig Zag
effect more clearly than HF AC I think. The lines are mostly not visible with
the naked eye. But they show up on camera.

Cheers