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  • #31
    I think the "magic"is in the hand.

    I have seen this, and related, devices work only when the magnet is held by hand.

    The tiniest movement of the magnet is enough to create a little unbalance.

    It does work as said, but only with the handmovement.
    That's why you never see these experiments with fixed magnets.

    It might work with putting the magnet on a spring, and some speedbumps on the track.

    My 2cts

    Cheers

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    • #32
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      I’ve always enjoyed these designs as some of them are quite ingenious.

      But if these gravity wheels work as claimed and are self running would it not seem reasonable to expect that they should also be self-starting? So why do they need a push to get started?

      Anyway here is another one to add to the list.



      Start with a vertical support with a bearing at the top.
      Next make a bar with a shaft in the center that will fit into the support bar’s bearing.
      This bar should be of a length that it can spin freely.
      Place a bearing at each end of this bar.
      Now make two bars that are half the length of this bar and with a weight on one end and shaft on the other.
      These shafts will fit into the bearings at the end of the first bar such that they can spin around parallel to it.
      On the back of these shafts place a small chain sprocket.
      On the back of the vertical support mount two more sprocket, of the same size, in such a manner that they cannot rotate.
      With all the bars in a horizontal position and both weights pointing towards the right, place a chain around each set of sprockets, from the fixed center ones out to the end ones.

      At this point the weight on the left should be approximately over the center axis and the right hand weight will be extended to its farthest to point form the center.

      It is obviously unbalanced and has to turn and as it does the sprockets and chains will hold the weight in a horizontal position. Right? Well that is what the guy who designed it claimed and he had three pages of calculation to show the amount of torque produced at different points of a revolution. It was quite impressive!

      However there is just one small problem, it doesn’t work. It is in perfect balance, with the two weights moving around opposite each other in a perfect circle that is offset from the main axis.


      Here is the inherent problem with any unbalanced gravity wheel. The distance that the driving weight falls from its highest point to its lowest point, irregardless of the path it follows, is the same distance that is must lift a corresponding weight. But when this is achieved the system will no longer be unbalance.

      Addition energy must be applied, magnets, nittinol wire springs, etc.

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      • #33
        This design is very similar to the Hampster cage motor, which has been successfully replicated. It is tricky to get started, but does, in fact work as described. I have seen it work myself. It puts out very little power and has a tendency to change orientation at some stage, requiring an adjustment of the magnetic stators position. Some advanced techniques have been tried to make it more reliable and produce more power, but I don't know if they have been successful because they have not been posted anywhere that I know of. One thing that I have seen is to coat the rolling ball in order to make it have less slippage. Another is to have another one on the far side top, outside, with a magnetic stator controling it as well, to produce more power. I haven't personally replicated it as it is mostly a toy, but does prove that a magnetic motor is entirely feasible. The ball is fighting a battle against gravity and magnetism. As the magnetic field increases, and it will, the magnetic stator has to be adjusted. A heavier ball, and stronger magnet may produce more power, but precise alignment would be critical. Good Luck. stealth

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Stealth View Post
          This design is very similar to the Hampster cage motor, which has been successfully replicated. It is tricky to get started, but does, in fact work as described. I have seen it work myself. It puts out very little power and has a tendency to change orientation at some stage, requiring an adjustment of the magnetic stators position. Some advanced techniques have been tried to make it more reliable and produce more power, but I don't know if they have been successful because they have not been posted anywhere that I know of. One thing that I have seen is to coat the rolling ball in order to make it have less slippage. Another is to have another one on the far side top, outside, with a magnetic stator controling it as well, to produce more power. I haven't personally replicated it as it is mostly a toy, but does prove that a magnetic motor is entirely feasible. The ball is fighting a battle against gravity and magnetism. As the magnetic field increases, and it will, the magnetic stator has to be adjusted. A heavier ball, and stronger magnet may produce more power, but precise alignment would be critical. Good Luck. stealth

          EXACTLY. The essence is to use BOTH gravity and magnetism....

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          • #35
            Here is a website if you decide to try and build one. The Hamster Cage Magnetic Motor I have been using this concept to build a more powerful unit but it does not work like the Hampster motor. I have most of the parts made, waiting for warmer weather to assemble and experiment with. Good Luck. stealth
            Last edited by Stealth; 03-22-2013, 11:33 PM.

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            • #36
              Visual Education Project



              They think perpetual motion is impossible, everything they have, is powered externally.

              Originally posted by Visual Education Project
              [Perpetual Motion] Such a device or system would be in violation of the law of Conservation of Energy, which states that energy can never be created or destroyed, and is therefore deemed impossible by the laws of physics.
              Once the world was known to be flat. Flight was once known to be impossible. Space travel was once known to be impossible. Our knowledge is limited, but our arrogance is not.
              We have never known, what we dont know...yet we always think we do.

              Originally posted by lamare
              If that were the case, then the heavier fluid would immediately "crawl" underneath the lighter fluid and the party would be over very fast.
              Flowing flask revealed: Robert Boyle' Flask - YouTube

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