(short video) Perpetual Motion Machines

[ashtweth]

Hi all, didn't have too much time to investigate, site looks "real"
Visual Education Project
A compilation of old concepts built into working models - demonstrated:
Perpetual motion machines - YouTube

Ash

[john_g]

Ash

Thanks for the links, site looks real enough, I think the machines is the video have some "hidden help" to inspire people.

Regards

John

[Slider2732]

Liked that a lot
The uphill roll would be hard to fake, but the top comment about 4:15 looks to be a clear case of hidden motor power. The overbalanced wheel things made me wonder about actual motored projects.

Edit: the more you look at these the more you see how it 'could' be done. Still like em though

[Cherryman]

Fascinating

The Davinci Overbalanced wheel reminded me a lot of the "Jack Abeling" claimed working wheel of two years back.

[Neight]

The uphill roll was just a visual effect. The tracks got wider towards the uphill side, the only way that would work is if the guides for the rollers could continuously get wider all the time. that double cone wouldn't even roll back downhill if you pushed it, or it would at least get some of the way there before settling back "uphill" once it lost the initial push momentum
who knows about some of the rest, but they look easy enough to build to be able to test them
cool video, thanks for sharing Ash!

[Farmhand]

I like this comment,

If anyone believes in this, my advise to u, go back to school!! If you
didn't finish school yet, keep studyin'!!
Hkandiel

The first one can be tested in about 1 minute flat so there should be no need
for conjecture. A water level is an engineering device. Water always finds it's
own level, without any significant other influences.

The Da Vincci Wheel has the bottom of the wheel protruding into the base
which has a compartment to house the electric motor or inertia device.

They are all fakes for folly.

Cheers

[Joit]

I am about to try the first one, but need a cone shaped Pot first any may play around with the Tube.

Else i found other Videos there too about a Gravitiy wheel,
Perpetuum Mobile (Evighetsmaskin) - YouTube
but still a hidden Motor in there controlled with a wireless control.
Just dissapointing, that its just fun for some Peoples to make Crap from some Devices, when they are not able to rebuild something proper..

Wonder if the Title at the Page 'Visual' Education has a double Meaning in any way.

Yay i got a new Water level with a Pot and a tube. Ok first one dont work here.

[Aaron]

not supposed to be perpetual motion

I don't think any of these machines are fakes. They're not really
supposed to be "perpetual motion". They look to me that they
are clearly models that are meant to be run by moving water such
as a river.

The wheels are turning by themselves by a motor to simply mimic
a moving stream.

They are demonstrating actual water lifting devices of the past
that were powered by a moving stream.

[Roland]

I don't think any of these machines are fakes. They're not really
supposed to be "perpetual motion". They look to me that they
are clearly models that are meant to be run by moving water such
as a river.

The wheels are turning by themselves by a motor to simply mimic
a moving stream.

They are demonstrating actual water lifting devices of the past
that were powered by a moving stream.

Maybe so for the first video(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyXMnTpggdI).
But the second video (Perpetual motion machines - YouTube Perpetual motion machines - YouTube) is nothing but fakes.

[Aaron]

perpetual motion

Maybe so for the first video(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyXMnTpggdI).
But the second video (Perpetual motion machines - YouTube Perpetual motion machines - YouTube) is nothing but fakes.

Yes, John G said it about inspiring people. The creator says it in the
description of the video "not to trick but to inspire". He isn't trying to
pass them off as real perpetual motion machines.

[Joit]

Now someone still has to explain why a Water Level works as it does.
I know, when there is Air in the Tube, the levels dont match, it may has to do with the Densitiy.
But when you would have 2 Weights like you has at the Video above, Left a big one and right a smaller one, where the axis is at bottom, the Balance wouldnt be equal.
May the mass centre is moving at Fluid?

[Shadesz]

Now someone still has to explain why a Water Level works as it does.
I know, when there is Air in the Tube, the levels dont match, it may has to do with the Densitiy.
But when you would have 2 Weights like you has at the Video above, Left a big one and right a smaller one, where the axis is at bottom, the Balance wouldnt be equal.
May the mass centre is moving at Fluid?

If you are talking about the one with a cup and tube he has plumbed the tube through the two mounting brackets and uses a concealed pump. Watch how the tube fills up. It's pretty obvious

[Farmhand]

Now someone still has to explain why a Water Level works as it does.
I know, when there is Air in the Tube, the levels dont match, it may has to do with the Densitiy.
But when you would have 2 Weights like you has at the Video above, Left a big one and right a smaller one, where the axis is at bottom, the Balance wouldnt be equal.
May the mass centre is moving at Fluid?

Hi Joit, A water level works the way it does by the same "type" kind of effect
that causes a cannon ball to fall at the same speed as a ball bearing. See
Galileo.

If we think of an underwater cave or tunnel being the only connection between two
bodies of water, one being the ocean and the other a small lagoon, if the self
flowing fountain worked then why wouldn't the lagoon be a water spout.

Whenever I wonder something I look to nature to see the effect I wonder about.

Cheers

[Farmhand]

It could be thought of this way. What is it that gives something "weight" ?

The pressure on the water surface is equal all over the water surface, and the
water is all one body of water. There would be no reason for one part of the
water to become higher than any other part, it is all joined and the forces acting
on it are fairly equal. However when the forces acting on a body of water are
not equal over the entire surface deformations will occur, such as the tidal rise
and fall.

Cheers

P.S. I was aware of them being for thinking purposes, and I agree it is good, as
long as the truth is also there somewhere at the end of the video. Other wise
it could cause problems. Not everybody is so discerning as to not waste a lot
of time trying to build what looks like a perpetual motion machine.

There are people who are believing them as real and they have in fact been
tricked. By the video, I imagine.

[Joit]

Hi Joit, A water level works the way it does by the same "type" kind of effect
that causes a cannon ball to fall at the same speed as a ball bearing. See
Galileo.

If we think of an underwater cave or tunnel being the only connection between two
bodies of water, one being the ocean and the other a small lagoon, if the self
flowing fountain worked then why wouldn't the lagoon be a water spout.

Whenever I wonder something I look to nature to see the effect I wonder about.

Cheers

Yeah, anyhow i feel cheated with this 'effect'. I really could work in a different Way.