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  • #16
    good to read you Haan

    you should check out some post here http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...tml#post171206

    they may bring you some insight , they did for me
    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • #17
      I have read the The Secret Of Light and The Divine Iliad and admit that I do not understand either.
      I don't think it's so much the content, but the language It takes me about 5 minutes of reading and re-reading to get through 2 or 3 lines There's also some videos on youtube of people reading the whole (TSOL) book, not the most exciting thing to listen to but I found I understood things when listening to it a lot easier then when I first read it, or maybe because I had read it first.

      The Secret of Light 01 - YouTube
      Last edited by dR-Green; 06-14-2012, 08:42 AM.
      http://www.teslascientific.com/

      "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

      "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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      • #18
        Walter Russell is someone who has inspired much of my research. I noticed that there isn't links to Atomic Suicide? or the HSC in this thread so I will link to them.

        Atomic Suicide?
        Home Study Course 3rd Edition

        I intend on coming back to this thread when I have a bit more time to give some of my insight into Russell & Schauberger whose science is more or less the same with different terminology thrown in here and there from what I can tell. In the meantime I think it's important that people post things that they are stuck on. I don't claim to be an expert on this cosmogony but I believe I could help those just getting started plus if everyone puts their heads together we can get somewhere with this.

        EDIT: I think those new to this work should start on Atomic Suicide? or A New Concept of the Universe. The Universal One is good butit is older, Atomic Suicide? and A New Concept of the Universe are newer with better understandings in it.

        Raui
        Last edited by Raui; 12-16-2011, 04:43 AM.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
          I don't think it's so much the content, but the language It takes me about 5 minutes of reading and re-reading to get through 2 or 3 lines
          I think your right. The problem with Russell's work is that he was trying to convey concepts that there were no words for. He had to devise his own terminology and that is why we have trouble understanding. Also, he writes in the old style and many of the more common words had a slightly different meaning than they do today.

          I find that an older dictionary (preferably a UK English version for his earlier works) is a must when reading his books.

          Cheers,

          Steve
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          http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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          • #20
            @Raui, thank you very much for those links!

            Good points everyone else... I agree that 'The Secret Of Light' is definitely not easy reading, 'The Universal One' seemed more comprehensive and easier to understand after struggling with it.
            But 'New Concept of the Universe' seems even easier. The writing style is more modern, and it seems more to the point at times.
            ‎"It's all in the MIND"

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            • #21
              i cant post my work regarding this matter

              sorry!

              i understand this quite well many moons ago ..

              and i choose to talk no further on this

              i drew a picture some where .. it maps all of it togather ...

              369 and deep things .. useing MY RINGS ........

              W

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              • #22
                @willy96, Hey Mr. Mysterious, that sounds exciting.., what are you waiting for, please post!!!
                ‎"It's all in the MIND"

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                • #23
                  i did post it at overunity a long time ago ...

                  Originally posted by StweenyA View Post
                  @willy96, Hey Mr. Mysterious, that sounds exciting.., what are you waiting for, please post!!!
                  its not worth looseing your life ...
                  there some things i can speek freely of and others i cant ...
                  sorry but that truly is still out of time ... its early ...

                  energy anti gravity carr's work telsa sheild this kind of things right now .. if you apply russell's
                  work to this its ok .. but the whole thing is not ok ... ok lol if that makes any sence


                  W
                  Last edited by willy96; 12-16-2011, 10:36 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Poppycock!

                    Originally posted by G. I. Gurdjieff Via John Anthony West
                    Whoever pushes your buttons is your master.
                    http://www.teslascientific.com/

                    "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                    "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                    • #25
                      just cuz i cant talk of it doesnt mean you cant talk of it .. and if you figure it out than i guess its your job to talk of it ....


                      but i will not

                      its 10 years early i could fetch you a picture tho if ya like ... i have not built this i have mapped the energy flows saw things and isntantally realized .. not yet ..... agin some time ago i drew it out ...

                      W

                      much similar to this ...


                      see the 3 rings 3 6 9 ? this is designed via SG 12 / 1

                      ever been in a round room with a bunch of doors ?

                      think on it ...... in mapping and figureing this out ... i notices an issue ... what is it ?

                      parellels! thats it .... weird sh!t eh!
                      ITS OUT OF TIME ! HEED THE WARNING !
                      AT DIFFRENT POINTS THEY INTERCETC AND WHAT? CROSS..... AT WHAT ? HARMONICS...... AND DONT TELL ME.... THE GS FITS RIGHT IN THERE ... LOL see its crazy ...

                      a toy for my kids .. 5 years from now !
                      Last edited by willy96; 12-17-2011, 12:35 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Hi all, Walters stuff is mind boggling. The drawings with comments and
                        annotations alone in the Universal One are priceless.

                        It is easy to go too deep thinking about it. It always comes back to the same
                        old questions. If there is no action without cause, then what causes the cause.
                        Before the Universe existed what was there. Has there ever been nothing in
                        existence.

                        My way of dealing with the unanswerable questions is to draw a line to not think
                        beyond. I draw the line at the Aether, I don't care where it came from and don't
                        have time to think about it.

                        Like asking a religious person where did God come from. At some point we lose
                        the ability to comprehend by design.

                        One thing I get from Walters stuff is that there are really no losses if the
                        entire system is considered. If we build devices (systems) that are part of
                        Nature then Nature is a part of the system (device), the energy in Nature is
                        unlimited and endlessly transformed.

                        There must be many ways to integrate man made devices in to Nature, we
                        already have had some for hundreds of years, windmills, sails, waterwheels
                        ect.
                        We just need to perfect the electrical counterpart of the windmill or waterwheel.

                        Sounds easy.

                        Cheers

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by willy96 View Post
                          its 10 years early
                          Yes but, according to what schedule?

                          I had to write "poppycock" btw because it wouldn't let me post a quote without any other text
                          http://www.teslascientific.com/

                          "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                          "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                          • #28
                            I am sick of people coming on to the forum and posting that they know stuff but aren't allowed to talk about it. What a load of crap!
                            You can view my vids here

                            http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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                            • #29
                              I have been studying Russell for a few years now and I have to admit, I had and some times I still have these kind of problems:

                              Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
                              I don't think it's so much the content, but the language It takes me about 5 minutes of reading and re-reading to get through 2 or 3 lines
                              Originally posted by dambit View Post
                              The problem with Russell's work is that he was trying to convey concepts that there were no words for. He had to devise his own terminology and that is why we have trouble understanding. Also, he writes in the old style and many of the more common words had a slightly different meaning than they do today.
                              By far, I'm not a guru in Russell's work but what I learned for sure is not to rush and take it slow. Even Walter Russell tells it several times in his Home Study Course. It is required thinking not reading with the finality of memorising. This is why I shared with you before his call:

                              Originally posted by Walter Russell
                              Your main object in life is to THINK and KNOW, like a creator — not to REMEMBER and REPEAT, like an automaton.
                              "New Concept of the Universe" seemed to be easier to read and personally I believe the reason is because is written as an open letter to "Academia". Russell uses the human nature to prove his points, and this human characteristic is being judgemental. He plays the string of Ego to trigger the curiosity of scientists. Having doubts that he succeeded, I suspect he was more effective with the regular reader who found this book "juicy". The same human addiction - being judgemental this time towards the "badged scientists" - makes this book easier to read. Perhaps. This is just my opinion.

                              However, Walter Russell was also a philosopher and philosophy is better communicated through symbolism of ideas rather than narration which is prone to memorising.

                              Certainly, Russell is not as easy as a casual reading. The purpose of casual reading is relaxation, decentration (although I believe there are better ways to accomplish that).

                              Reading his writings requires work, effort, concentration, action. Generations of conditioning of our minds are not going to be wiped out easily. Undoing our old way of thinking (which seem more appropriate for a small talk at the pub) driven most often by our fears or egos, requires this effort.

                              With regard to his archaic language, I found his Home Study Course easier to read. As I said, the same was with "New Concept of the Universe" and maybe "Atomic Suicide?".

                              Nevertheless, because of the range of information, I found a better choice the "Home Study Course - 3-rd Edition - Revised and Expanded". I know, it is ridiculously expensive and I mulled on the idea of purchasing it for years. Now I don't regret the expense and I could recommend buying it to anyone who thinks seriously studying Russell. Now, don't think I'm playing your Ego to buy it. Just honestly consider why would you purchase it and if you would find it really useful not just for free energy research but rather as a way of life.

                              Regards.

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                              • #30
                                this is a time travel device .. its still early .. as we bairly got the people understanding my stones ... how ya gonna travel with out the sheild ...

                                and lets face it .. half plus of the population are still cave men and woman

                                just being honest !


                                W

                                its not that hard to figure out ...

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