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**willy96** · 12-10-2011, 02:27 PM

interesting ..

i watched 1 of your videos .. and i find things of intrest as in the sounds poroduced at high rpm ..

i have a high speed motor aswell but it is not at all the same ..

i did not see your motor mine has 8 cylender and i expect it to reach well over 100 000 rpm .. i have 8 outputs of about 70vdc there bouts ..

but i bounce magnetics .. as i have a magnet on the back of the driveing coil as well i have 2 pairs of oscolateing 2 freq drivers .. and 2 more pairs to build

i call it my model a i made videos but have not presented it public yet ..

that is far from all that is envolved in my design ..

i have just designed a power supply for it aswell

so it could now run on a aa battery.. easly

im afarid to go higher than 12vdc on supply its soo fast but yours accelerates much faster mine windes up on 4 cylenders and it takes 8 min to reach top speed like i said mine is diffrent

great work tho bro !

W

**willy96** · 12-10-2011, 02:51 PM

i will work with you on yours to help if i can to make it better ..

but i for some reason think you have a good design ..

i just know

lol

i used a vcr head ... the best bearings i have found next to the frictionless ones i have designed..

and that is nothing more than a floating magnet generator .. i left it alone years back .. as i know what it leads to .. but its too easy and i do like a challange some times

the kool thing i discover with 4 2 freq units driveing a single motor .. is the crosstalk ...

it changes as i add more units .. aswell i had to use HIGH WATTAGE RESISTORS TO TUNE THE MOTOR plus heat sync and fan them .. so i might put my work there to replace the resistors

W

carefull what you ask for .. you may just get it ..

its uploading

W's model A in this video i expect it is doing 25 000 rpm .. probally faster but im not sure .. with all 8 it goes way faster
plus i have a lot more to this design .. ya know A B C D E F G H ETC ......

this is a mono pole motor then i got I J K L M N O P this is also a mono pole motor but oppisite polarity .. npn on bottom and pnp on top ... turning a generator inside the motor if you could visualize it ...

this is for my hover board and my ADVANCED DESIGN .. ALL COILS ARE TRIFILLAR AND SOME HAVE TRANSFORMER AND GENERATOR WINDINGS ON TOP OF THEM .. ALSO ALL INPUT END RECOVERY FEEDS .. many outputs ...

its not about what i have done .. its how i can help you if i can ...

W

**willy96** · 12-10-2011, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by mnsman

Thanks Willy for the offer of help. I gotta run to work now for a bit. Where can I view your upload when I get back?

As far as help goes... Where to start? You saw my help wanted in my first post. Maybe if you view my last video on youtube you might know a bit better what help I "think" I need. Maybe what I think I need isn't what I need. My mind is wide open. P-Motor RU Curious or Serious? 12-9-11 - YouTube

Jim

i will post the video here when it finishes .. bear in mind this is never showen public .. and its a wow factor bro !

i have like 64 wires on it

W

nice video

i like what you have done .. your sooooo close bro ... aswell if you dont know my work .. im well knowen

i have an improvement to your pancake .. where it is a drriected energy coil ...

the focal point is much like a magnifing glass
if you knew who i am and what i have done .. we would have a built a teleporter and ship .. years back ...

not a joke

W

its nice to meet you SIR

**ewizard** · 12-10-2011, 05:57 PM

Nice work mnsman! I like that you have an awareness of some of the ties to crop circles, sacred geometry and so on. Pancake coils are fascinating to work with.

**mnsman** · 12-10-2011, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by ewizard View Post

Nice work mnsman! I like that you have an awareness of some of the ties to crop circles, sacred geometry and so on. Pancake coils are fascinating to work with.

Thanks ewizard,

The crop circles are telling us all something. Just looking at them has an effect. I just started with the pancake coils last summer. I was replicating the Tesla one wire power transmitter. It worked. But I wanted to transmit data so I ordered a micro controller and while I was waiting for that I got a little side tracked. For years I wanted to make motor drive coils from pancake coils. So while I was waiting I started winding. Well... didn't ever make it back to the transmitter. Now I can't even find the micro controller. I'm sure I put it in a good spot. lol

**willy96** · 12-10-2011, 08:39 PM

im knowen as IST , W , OSIRIS

yep me in the flesh .. lol

crazy as always ...

here is the video running on only 4 cylenders

W

W's Model A - YouTube
i have been locked out of my last 3 youtube accounts
im useing this one now
look at the crap i had to go through bro... trust me im no fool.. if you read my comments on youtube you will see the bs that comes with the prize ... it is quite safe to say your ahead of the crowd ...

here is proof of free energy ... even better when i remove the source and it continues to operate ... lol
Advanced High Voltage Silver Spinner Technology H.V.S.S.T. - YouTube

**mnsman** · 12-10-2011, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by stargate22

I will say of all the devices I've seen the last years, yours seems to show
promise. "Tesla" said..." the universe is ANALOG (AC)...thus, I believe you
will get the most from your device in AC powering. If I read right you seem to have already discovered that.

As for the high RPM....go MAGNET bearings....free floating.

Get some ideas from "skycollection" he does good stuff!

LINK to his utube channel :skycollection's Channel - YouTube

I think he has achieved 40,000 rpm +?

PS- If you enclose the spark-gap in a gas/vacuum you will definitely get more power....SPACE is in a Vacuum!

Thank you for that. I am encouraged by your response. I think it's way bigger than me. Envision an acoustical resonant chamber housing this device creating a standing wave. The Tesla resonant circuit, discharge, rotor magnet and drive coil all singing in perfect harmony. Envision a serious Manhattan project style collaboration on energiticforum. Totally reproducible and each improvement implemented in all builds. Well that's the new guys vision. Hopefully people will see the merit in the project.

As far as magnetic bearings. The only concern I would have is what effect would a mag bearing have with regards to it's orientation within the high E-field in my setup. It must be tested. Thanks I've seen skycollection. His builds sure are better looking than mine. He does some fine work.

**willy96** · 12-10-2011, 09:24 PM

my magnet bearing was 4 microwave magnets all bucking motor / gen suspended in side ..

i see no reason it will not work but you still need an axel to go all the way through it to lock it from blowing apart .. but it is truley frictionless

W

**willy96** · 12-10-2011, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by mnsman

Have any pics of mag bearing?
I don't question whether the rotor will suspend with magnets. If you watch my animation the rotor magnet is in the middle of an E-field in order to create a Poynting vector . At the vectors maximum value have it timed so that it is at a right angle to the HV discharge. My point is I wonder what effect placing more magnets (oriented differently than rotor) within the same E-field would have. Unknown. But then again my proposed experiment has yet to materialize with the bearings I already use.

what is the reason for better bearings than a vcr head bearing ? have you ever used one .. i have played with many .. find a better one cheeper .. impossible ...

aswell how i aproch my motors is not all about the speed .. this one is designed for high speed .. but i need not concern myself with overunity issues do to the bearing loss.. this is not any factor in an overunity style device .. in my devices anyways im not worried about the loss from the bearings .. try to play with a vcr head .. or a hard drive bearing ..

those are my thoughts about the bearings anyhow ..
i have no pics of the magnet bearing this is well over 4 years ago ... now
i built that motor last year ....

W

**mnsman** · 12-10-2011, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by stargate22

I will say of all the devices I've seen the last years, yours seems to show
promise. "Tesla" said..." the universe is ANALOG (AC)...thus, I believe you
will get the most from your device in AC powering. If I read right you seem to have already discovered that.

As for the high RPM....go MAGNET bearings....free floating.

Get some ideas from "skycollection" he does good stuff!

LINK to his utube channel :skycollection's Channel - YouTube

I think he has achieved 40,000 rpm +?

PS- If you enclose the spark-gap in a gas/vacuum you will definitely get more power....SPACE is in a Vacuum!

I'm sorry I didnt' react to your statement about the vacuum. I agree that the discharge would be better in a vacuum. I believe that I've mentioned that in my work. Or at least I've researched it and considered it to be the best way to go.

**rosehillworks** · 12-11-2011, 04:53 AM

@Mnsman
Thank you for putting your work here.
I have some ideas for this but it will take some time to replicate your work. I will try to help. Can you post a schematic of your switching circuit.

Thanks. William Reed

**mbrownn** · 12-11-2011, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by mnsman View Post

Hello All,

I'm new to this forum and I'm looking for input for my motor project. I call it the P-Motor. I have plenty of ideas and I'm looking for your ideas too.

What would you do if you had this motor?
What do you think of my proposed experiments?
If you find merit in the project are you interested in collaboration?

You can build one too. The hard part is wrapping your pancake coils. As far as builds go the rest will be relatively easy for experienced builders. Everything is described to the best of my ability. OPEN SOURCE

A short animation and description of my proposed experiment:
P-Motor experiment description and animation - YouTube

Call out-Update-Ideas
P-Motor RU Curious or Serious? 12-9-11 - YouTube

Last test results:
P-Motor test run 12-7 and 12-8-11 part 2 of 3 - YouTube @ approx. 11:40 into vid

I need help with properly measuring it's HP, torque, efficiency etc.

Kill A Watt measurements:
Power supply idle 0V = 14.7W
Power supply idle 6V = 15.7W
Power supply loaded 27.2V 1.94A = 128W

Current Maximum values:
rpm 76,423rpm
Storage Capacitor 220.4Vdc and climbing (350Vdc and climbing another test)
RMS Amp meter 2.26A
Power supply amp meter 1.94A
Power supply Volt meter 27.2V
Peak AC signal +73V
Kill A Watt 128W

It's a work in progress. I do need help. Currently I'm experiencing some anomalous effects with my power supply and o-scope. It just started happening and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Is the energy feeding back to the supply? The numbers go bonkers on the displays. Even on the side of the supply I'm not using. My solar powered calculator was wigging out too. Equipment failure?

EDIT: Added diode in series from power supply + to circuit. This is apparently blocking the feedback now. Power supply display no longer goes crazy. Will test without diode with battery as power source. Radiant energy back feed to battery = good. Right??

Help wanted:
-Out of the box thinkers;
-Micro controller programmer;
-Tesla high voltage resonant circuit specialist;
-Ideas for energy harvesting acoustical and heat energy;
-bearing specialist;
-Someone who can assist in determining current efficiency etc.

What would you do? Beside duck and cover.

Jim

Im not sure of what your circuit does but if it is a pulse motor it will have similarities to my circuit. You cannot get radiant to do much directly in normal circuits as most of it escapes back into the environment very quickly but you can capture some of it and put it to use.

First you have to convert it to normal electricity and that is done by batteries and capacitors as im sure you know. I choose to use it to power my motors next pulse with a small top up from the supply. Theoretically the overunity can be huge but in practice with all losses considered it is much more difficult.

I am using off the shelf motors and getting close, your motor looks like it could be made to work much more efficiently than these so it will be an easier task to do it with.

If I am right about what you are doing, I think my circuits can help you on the powering of your motor. I will need to watch all your videos to understand what you are doing, please take a look at my threads and see what you think.

Like you I get little responce to my posts.

**mbrownn** · 12-11-2011, 10:47 AM

Ahh Its a Bedini, easy to do but a low efficiency motor. You need a generator coil placed opposite the power coil for your output and just wire the circuit like on my Lockridge trifilar coil thread and you will be smoking my friend. The inductive kickback and radiant will charge a resonant capacitor for your next pulse. Your speed will be much lower as the generator coil will be a load, if you get the size of the coil right you will have a self runner by feeding its output back to the source capacitor. If you do it well you might have a problem of the voltage rising too high on the source. Try to load the motor down to a point where your coils are loudest, this is the resonant frequency.

You will need 2 MOSFETS

Circuit Simulator Applet

**mnsman** · 12-11-2011, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by mbrownn View Post

Im not sure of what your circuit does but if it is a pulse motor it will have similarities to my circuit. You cannot get radiant to do much directly in normal circuits as most of it escapes back into the environment very quickly but you can capture some of it and put it to use.

First you have to convert it to normal electricity and that is done by batteries and capacitors as im sure you know. I choose to use it to power my motors next pulse with a small top up from the supply. Theoretically the overunity can be huge but in practice with all losses considered it is much more difficult.

I am using off the shelf motors and getting close, your motor looks like it could be made to work much more efficiently than these so it will be an easier task to do it with.

If I am right about what you are doing, I think my circuits can help you on the powering of your motor. I will need to watch all your videos to understand what you are doing, please take a look at my threads and see what you think.

Like you I get little responce to my posts.

New here. Is there a quick way to see your schematic?

By the way thanks for the input. Hope you have further input after viewing my videos. Nothing new except for the arrangement and exceptional speed.

Ran it up with 2 x 12V batteries (24V) today with my new dual magnet rotor. Disappointed by the speed. 45k rpm tops. Need to tinker with it a bit. Now making another rotor with smaller 3/4" ring magnet. Nearly complete and ready for testing.

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