DIY PMG Generators cheap and easy to make whit in a day!

[abc1200d]

I thought, someone is going to discuss the new winding art here. At least the principles. I think it is not wise to turn the forum into commercial site!

[Energy Creator]

Congrats on a well done DVD ! You are a very good teacher and the generators look easy to build! A very novel coil topography that is simple to understand.

This was well worth the money. Thanks for making it available!

Cheers,
Vince

Thank’s Vince

I am glad you like the movie.
Hoop you make nice generators!


Brian

[Energy Creator]

I thought, someone is going to discuss the new winding art here. At least the principles. I think it is not wise to turn the forum into commercial site!

Hello abc1200d

If you want to know the principals of this generator, here it is,
It’s the same principle like any other generator, generating electricity by moving magnets along copper wire.

I chose to put the way to make these new generators on a DVD so everybody can make them easily.

I chose not to paten the idea, I think its wrong to hide these kind of ideas for mankind.

If you read the forums for a few day’s and spend a couple of hundred buck’s you can make these generators as well, no problem.

But its much more easier and cheaper to buy the DVD for $35,- and lean back in your favorite chair with a couple of cold beers and watch the movie.

If you watch the movie you never forget the information again.
You can design and make your own generators for live.


Brian

[Majestic81]

I thought, someone is going to discuss the new winding art here. At least the principles. I think it is not wise to turn the forum into commercial site!

There is nothing wrong paying a small fee for this knowledge, if the information is really his to give away to the public domain.

I wish there were more DVD's like this for example Growing Algae, building a plastic to diesel converter (hint hint!) this also gives the invertor the resources for other projects or expand upon his product (if the updates are free the ones who purchased the DVD).

35 dollars isn't allot, but does cover some of the expanses if he sells a multitude.

Don't forget he goes through 4 models from small to large and gives some bonus information.

Brian......RESPECT!

[tecknomancer]

There is nothing wrong paying a small fee for this knowledge, if the information is really his to give away to the public domain.

I wish there were more DVD's like this for example Growing Algae, building a plastic to diesel converter (hint hint!) this also gives the invertor the resources for other projects or expand upon his product (if the updates are free the ones who purchased the DVD).

35 dollars isn't allot, but does cover some of the expanses if he sells a multitude.

Don't forget he goes through 4 models from small to large and gives some bonus information.

Brian......RESPECT!

I totally agree everyone just wants everything for free. if Brian had patented this you wouldn't have had a chance to benefit from his knowledge, these things take allot of time and effort and that is a small price to pay to help the inventor continue his research. Brian has allot of great ideas I hope this works for him. I am planning to the same thing soon and the last thing we need is someone buying the DVD and posting what they have learned, I think it would seriously undermine Brian's efforts along with anyone else who is trying to do the same thing SO DON'T DO IT!!

[jibbguy]

Hello, and welcome to the forum. The information sounds interesting. Recently i worked on an PM alternator project for a tide turbine, and making an efficient and effective one is not as easy as it would first appear (greatly magnified by the specific problems of design for underwater operation, ours was an "in line" concentric design that had the rotor with magnets also being the driving impeller). We also tried Halbach Array type magnetic bearings with it, but they would not work at the low RPM range of operation ;(

This was also a big problem for power output: Low RPM, and no ability to gear it up in a concentric design. The only answer we could see was to pack more and more coils in, with stronger and stronger magnets. The end result weighed 3 times what we first thought it would for the same output lol. One idea is to increase the diameter (increases the angular velocity of magnet verses coil at the perimeter), but that has design problems of its own. I see a recent Japanese conceptual design for an all new type windmill, has the magnets in the blade tips and coils in a ring around them for maximum velocity (the conical section-shaped ring also channels the air in more efficiently) .

BTW, what distance gap do you use between the magnets and coils in your designs?

You mentioned a Prof. at Delft University in the Netherlands. Is it the same guy shown here, who also hosted the public demonstration of Turkish inventor Muammer Yildriz's magnet motor in April 2010 (shown below) ?

Tesla komt na 100 jaar toch weer om de hoek - YouTube

Lol if it is the same guy, please ask him what ever happened to it

[Energy Creator]

There is nothing wrong paying a small fee for this knowledge, if the information is really his to give away to the public domain.

I wish there were more DVD's like this for example Growing Algae, building a plastic to diesel converter (hint hint!) this also gives the invertor the resources for other projects or expand upon his product (if the updates are free the ones who purchased the DVD).

35 dollars isn't allot, but does cover some of the expanses if he sells a multitude.

Don't forget he goes through 4 models from small to large and gives some bonus information.

Brian......RESPECT!

Thanks Majestic81

Yes there will be a login page for customers in the future , so they can download updates.

I wish I had the money to buy big magnets for building a big generator for in the movie.
If you got a large peace of PVC for the stator, like in the photo.

( generator-3, the stator tube of generator-3 and big stator tube for a big generator)


The thing is, that the wall of the big stator tube is much to wide, it will give a large air gab!



So, to make a big generator we use only the shape of the large PVC pipe but not the pipe it self.
We build the generator in a different way.

This will be a free update movie for those who have purchase the DVD.


cheers
Brian

[Energy Creator]

I totally agree everyone just wants everything for free. if Brian had patented this you wouldn't have had a chance to benefit from his knowledge, these things take allot of time and effort and that is a small price to pay to help the inventor continue his research. Brian has allot of great ideas I hope this works for him. I am planning to the same thing soon and the last thing we need is someone buying the DVD and posting what they have learned, I think it would seriously undermine Brian's efforts along with anyone else who is trying to do the same thing SO DON'T DO IT!!

Hello Tecknomancer

Thanks for the support

If you need any help, let me know, glad to help

I think the design will be on YouTube eventually, can’t stop evolution.

But what you find on YouTube will be 1 or 2 years old in the eye of the people who bought the DVD.

I am building on a customer download page for update movies and documentation.
And a customer forum to put all these bright minds to gather so they can help each other and share there findings.

In this way I can also find out where possible problems are, cant find them yet but who knows?
And try to find solutions for this and update it again.

So if you’re a costumer and you bin on a holyday for 3 months, you just download the update and you know right away were everybody is talking about on the customer forum.

I thing the evolution of the design will go like a rocket in this way.
So what you will find on YouTube will be behind a lot. ( 1 or 2 years)



Cheers
Brian

[Energy Creator]

Hello, and welcome to the forum. The information sounds interesting. Recently i worked on an PM alternator project for a tide turbine, and making an efficient and effective one is not as easy as it would first appear (greatly magnified by the specific problems of design for underwater operation, ours was an "in line" concentric design that had the rotor with magnets also being the driving impeller). We also tried Halbach Array type magnetic bearings with it, but they would not work at the low RPM range of operation ;(

This was also a big problem for power output: Low RPM, and no ability to gear it up in a concentric design. The only answer we could see was to pack more and more coils in, with stronger and stronger magnets. The end result weighed 3 times what we first thought it would for the same output lol. One idea is to increase the diameter (increases the angular velocity of magnet verses coil at the perimeter), but that has design problems of its own. I see a recent Japanese conceptual design for an all new type windmill, has the magnets in the blade tips and coils in a ring around them for maximum velocity (the conical section-shaped ring also channels the air in more efficiently) .

BTW, what distance gap do you use between the magnets and coils in your designs?

You mentioned a Prof. at Delft University in the Netherlands. Is it the same guy shown here, who also hosted the public demonstration of Turkish inventor Muammer Yildriz's magnet motor in April 2010 (shown below) ?

Tesla komt na 100 jaar toch weer om de hoek - YouTube

Lol if it is the same guy, please ask him what ever happened to it

Thanks Jibbguy

I keep the air gab as small as possible.

I saw the Japanese conceptual design, ill wonder how it’s acting under a load

I saw the movie, no, it’s not the same dude.
Interesting movie, ill wonder what they say in Turkish and pointing to the bottom of the machine? And then opening the top of the machine to show everybody?

Maybe I'm just paranoid.


Cheers
Brian

[aaron5120]

ideas for winding the coil

Hi Brian,
I have sent you a PM last week, suggesting a new way to wind the stator coil. I even attached two pictures of the idea. It seems that you did not read the PM. Maybe the mail got dumped in the trashbin of your mail box.
I am Aaron, please check your email address posted in your youtube channel.

[Energy Creator]

Hi Brian,
I have sent you a PM last week, suggesting a new way to wind the stator coil. I even attached two pictures of the idea. It seems that you did not read the PM. Maybe the mail got dumped in the trashbin of your mail box.
I am Aaron, please check your email address posted in your youtube channel.

Hello Aaron

I have found your mail,
reading it now

Thanks
Brian

[eothand]

had some neos fall in my lap

@ EC / All

I just had 8 rather large NEO's given to me by a friend. They are1 13/16" x 1 3/16" x 1 3/16", (46mm x 30mm x 30mm). I have no idea specifically what these magnets are except that I quickly learned that you don't want to get in between them! Two of them have joined together and I am not quite sure how to get them apart, but I digress.

They where given to me because I had mentioned that I wanted to build a VAWT, and mentioned I would probably have to build/modify a generator.

Would these be good for this purpose, in your opinion, or would they be better used for some other fun project.

I have not ordered your info yet but would be happy to if you all recommend.

Thanks

John

P.S. I may be able to get a bunch of these pretty cheap if there is something REALLY FUN to do with them!

[Energy Creator]

@ EC / All

I just had 8 rather large NEO's given to me by a friend. They are1 13/16" x 1 3/16" x 1 3/16", (46mm x 30mm x 30mm). I have no idea specifically what these magnets are except that I quickly learned that you don't want to get in between them! Two of them have joined together and I am not quite sure how to get them apart, but I digress.

They where given to me because I had mentioned that I wanted to build a VAWT, and mentioned I would probably have to build/modify a generator.

Would these be good for this purpose, in your opinion, or would they be better used for some other fun project.

I have not ordered your info yet but would be happy to if you all recommend.

Thanks

John

P.S. I may be able to get a bunch of these pretty cheap if there is something REALLY FUN to do with them!

Hello Eothand

I am not trying to sell my DVD to you or something.
But if you got 16 or 32 of those magnets and you have tools to make slots in stead of holes in the rotor, no problem you can make good generators of them.


Cheers
Brian

[Energy Creator]

@ EC / All
P.S. I may be able to get a bunch of these pretty cheap if there is something REALLY FUN to do with them!

Wow, I didn’t se the picture first.

If you got 80 or 120 of these you can build a generator of 3 to 5 KW!!

Are you selling them as well?


Brian

[eothand]

Appreciated!

Hello Eothand

I am not trying to sell my DVD to you or something.
But if you got 16 or 32 of those magnets and you have tools to make slots in stead of holes in the rotor, no problem you can make good generators of them.


Cheers
Brian

I could easily get 8 more, probably for free, and maybe 24 more for a couple of bucks/beer.

With my limited knowledge about the subject 32 of these magnets seem like they would be OVERKILL for anything but a huge VAWT. It wouldn't do me any good to have a BEEFY generator if I can't turn it Of course, that is why I am asking because I really have no idea.

After reading several reviews it seems like you have a really great product, so I guess I should just pony up some dough and learn something!
I could also just shell out some money for different magnets and use these for something else, but the price was right for these gems!

Thanks
John