Why perpetual motion machines do not exist

[mbrownn]

A battery or generator, etc... makes a dipole that polarizes the
aether, the different polarities of the aether go to different poles
on the dipole. Battery connected to light bulb - positive aether
moves from positive terminal towards negative and that positive
aether (positive voltage potential) attracts electrons from the

copper of the copper wire towards the positive terminal. That is
where the "current" comes from. The battery or generator isn't
supplying current, it just makes a potential difference inside of
space that polarizes the aether and the aether causes a current
to arise. When a battery goes dead, it doesn't have less electrons
than it did when it was charged. The charges in a battery are
simply separated to make the potential difference at the terminals
to polarize the aether.



There is the connection between gravity and electricity that in
my opinion makes a lot more common sense than curved space
nonsense as it makes sense of a whole lot more including the
operation of "overunity" machines and even bouncing balls. As
the aether is constantly streaming downward to the center of
the Earth - there are various dissipations and manifestations

happening in the center of Earth that never let the downward
push equalize and stop otherwise there would be no gravity -

some of these manifestations rise to the surface of the earth
like "electrons" etc...


That downward STREAMING dynamic potential that causes

the effect of gravity is what is pushing on the rubber ball and when
the ball bounces back up, that is where the NEW potential enters
the ball to push it down, etc... not because there is any potential
being stored by lifting it up. And is why there is no conservation
of energy because the work put in to lift the ball is all dissipated
when the peak is reached. When the new gravitational potential
enters the ball, that is completely different and disconnected
from the original input - there was no transformation of energy
from one form to another.



There is work, dissipation and an

establishment of a new dipole or potential difference to allow

new potential to come in, more work will be done, dissipation,
then establishment of a new dipole or potential difference,
new potential comes in, work, dissipation, new dipole, new potential,
work, dissipation, etc... of course the ball bounces less and less
each time because of the dissipation on impact and even if we
don't discuss how much work is done comparing input to output,
it should be obvious to a child by simple observation that

there is no conservation of energy.



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That is what happens when you pulse a coil, bounce a ball, operate
Newton's cradle, run Velijko's oscillator, etc... No conservation
of energy. All the work done is disconnected from the original

input work to get it going - no conservation of energy.




[/LEFT]

WOW great explanation. I agree with what you say and have come to the same conclusions myself.

The new one to me is the flow of aether being the pull of gravity, a very interesting concept. It would explain why some devices have a gravitational effect by causing aether flow in a particular direction. I will have to give it more thought to let that sink in.

I knew that there must have been a relationship between the aether and gravity and considered it to be a pole at 90 degrees to the electrical and magnetic poles. I'm not sure how that would fit in with what you said or even if it could. If gravity is polar then there must be anti-gravity although I have never seen it. If gravity is a current of aether then it must be possible to reverse it.

I will study it and thanks for the concept.

[mbrownn]

What I like about detractors is that it makes us think and brings out the best work in us. Asking questions requires a response and if the question has merit the response has to be better, this is how theories evolve and discoveries are made to prove the theories.

Even if the questions asked by a detractor are asked in flippant way, we should try to answer, even if it is only to ourselves. The repeated testing of hypotheses is what advances the truth.

[ren]

I understand what you mean about the phrase 'perpetual motion'.


What about if the wheel uses passive or active magnetic bearings. Where are the wearable items then?

The wheel itself. Water will eventually erode away at the paddles or blades etc.

[soundiceuk]

Even with nylon / teflon components?

[ren]

Im sure these would greatly increase the lifespan. A quick look on the net would seem that plastic doesnt decompose, it just breaks down into smaller pieces. The average (estimate) time is 400-600yrs, but since plastic hasnt been around that long I guess its impossible to know for sure. Impurities or foreign materials in the water could alter this to I guess. Even sediments like sand and rock would cause more abrasion over time than just plain water.

Its gonna be around alot longer than you either way. I guess we could start the testing now and our great great great grandchildren would get the results

[soundiceuk]

well perpetual motion machines are pretty useless for the most part and you can never get a practical amount of useful energy out of them

Have a look at the amount of torque needed for these generators:

ALXION Automatique&Productique

The device I displayed CAD images of can have the deflecting element lead weights increased to any weight with the right engineering.

This will give the necessary torque figure required.

It isn't a complicated design at all.

Just out of interest, what are your opinions on the design I have displayed in the thread?

Even if they are negative that is fine.

Cheers

[Aaron]

gravity of the situation

WOW great explanation. I agree with what you say and have come to the same conclusions myself.

The new one to me is the flow of aether being the pull of gravity, a very interesting concept. It would explain why some devices have a gravitational effect by causing aether flow in a particular direction. I will have to give it more thought to let that sink in.

I knew that there must have been a relationship between the aether and gravity and considered it to be a pole at 90 degrees to the electrical and magnetic poles. I'm not sure how that would fit in with what you said or even if it could. If gravity is polar then there must be anti-gravity although I have never seen it. If gravity is a current of aether then it must be possible to reverse it.

I will study it and thanks for the concept.

The analogy I always use with the downward flow of the aether giving
a push on the proton "mass" of any atom it encounters (gravity) is
this:

If on the surface of the Earth there is 1 cubic foot of lead and 1 cubic
foot of wood (doesn't matter what kind), the wood will weigh less.

Take a net that has 1 square inch spacing and sit it in a river. It won't
give much of a push on the net. Take a net that has 1 mm square
spacing and sit it in the same river, it will have quite a bit of push on it.
If you take both nets and move it against the flow of the river, the
1sq inch mesh will move easier than the 1mm square mesh that has quite
a bit of resistance (that is analogous to the weight of an object).

As the aether comes down towards the center of the mass of the Earth,
it imparts a push on the protons on the way.

The wood has a density like the 1 square inch net. You grab the wood
and lift up on it and there is only so much resistance to the aetheric river
pouring through it. You grab the lead with 1mm square mesh and lift
it up against the river and it feels heavier because there is quite a bit
more push on it from the aetheric river.

That is gravity and why objects with a denser "matrix" appear to be
"heavier". Weight is just an effect of the push of the aether as it
goes through it on the way to the center of the mass of the Earth.

Hence - the lighter wood and heavier lead that are both 1 cubic foot
in size.

Now take an object and rotate it at high speed so that the axis (shaft
or axle)
is perpendicular to the ground. Let's say it is an aluminum sphere or disc.
As the aether pushes down towards the atoms that make up the
aluminum, the atoms that are rotating in a plane perpendicular to the
flow of the aether will deflect some of that aether around it thereby decreasing the downward push (when it is moving up)
on it - and also thereby allowing for a reduction in weight. That is
why a rotating mass like this can be lifted up against "gravity" and
be lighter than it is and meet less gravitational resistance that it does
when it is completely still. Gyroscopes support my idea, they do
demonstrate a reduction in weight when lifted.

If we use this concept of gravity as described and extrapolate it's logic to
virtually every conceivable observable phenomena relating to gravity, it
holds up. I use the word "virtually" as a disclaimer but I have not yet
found anything that violates this stream of logic. It even holds up
when we talk about gravitational attraction between two objects!

Earlier I mentioned something in regards to someone that is a skeptic
that silver and iron will not fall at the same rate. This does not contradict
anything I am saying about the aether.

The facts are that silver being a non-ferrous metal will fall slower. As it
cuts through the Earth's magnetic field, a counter current is induced in
the silver that opposes the Earth's magnetic field causing a slight repulsion
slowing the fall of the silver.

The difference isn't big but throws everything in the garbage that states
everything in a vacuum falls at the same rate. If there is a planet with the
same mass as the Earth but no magnetic field, then both would fall at the
same rate. However, we're on Earth and these equations are wrong on
Planet Earth. This difference in falling speed is well known in the lab at
a small scale. Difference is small but is nevertheless there - the freefall
equations do not account for this and are therefore wrong. Those that
push the math math math as the answer has to concede that the outcome
of an equation is correct or it isn't and the freefall equations are only
conditional and apply to everything as long as it isn't a non-ferrous
metal. That means, the formula's are conditional which mean they defeat
the purpose of even being formulas.

I have not seen the distinction made but I'd like to see a test if the
iron ball would actually fall faster as it it attracted to a magnetic field and
if a piece of wood would be the baseline not significantly interfered by
a magnetic field at all.

Anyway, I didn't see an answer from the skeptic so I wanted to clarify
what i meant by silver and iron not falling at the same rate.

In any case, that is my own personal model of gravity - a part of it
and it explains gravitational attraction between two objects (one big and
one small for example).

Anyway, if you have a sphere and you give a huge potential difference
at two opposing ends... like millions of volts at the top facing up
for example, the positive component of the aether as it moves down
towards that sphere will repel away and deflect around that highly charged
positive potential and will be attracted to the negative potential at the
bottom that the sphere is sitting on. Not only is there deflection in this
case like the spinning disc, the positive part of the aether is attracted
to the negative bottom that no aether is moving through the actual
matter of the sphere but simultaneously - the negative is pulling on the
positive coming aether as the highly charged positive is attracted
to the negative aether, which will make the sphere move in the upward
direction against gravity. Not only does it lift, it does so with zero inertia.
Why? Because all the aether is deflected around the shell of the sphere
(ship) and cannot have inertia if none of the aether is imparting a push
on the mass of the ship.

Inertia and time can only exist if there is a resistance of mass to the
aether it is moving through. If the aether is deflected around the mass,
then there is a negative resistance and the mass is actually sucked
into the forward direction at negative resistance and at negative inertia
meaning no time is flowing, this flushes Einstein down the toilet.

If the very substance (aether) is deflected around the ship (sphere),
there is no inertia or resistance to the movement of this mass through
through space at any velocity because none of the mass of the ship
is being pushed on by the positive component of the aether - none
of the aether can push on the protons of the atoms of any of the mass
of the ship if there is a high enough potential difference on different parts
of the ship (sphere) to deflect the aether around it. Therefore,
transportation without inertia or time loss is possible. So using these
principles to go to the next star system is possible without going there
and coming back to find that everyone you knew was dead and many
generations has passed. That is only necessary in Einstein's world but
not mine because I recognize the aether and respect it's principles and
operating parameters. Of course I can't claim anything I'm saying is true
at this moment but many experiments I have done do give evidence
that support where I'm going with this that gives me even more reason
to believe it.

[willy96]

The wheel itself. Water will eventually erode away at the paddles or blades etc.

well i tell you right now mine is not gonna wear down .. simply change the center blade to DIAMOND ....

it works well and can put out emence horse power .. so they call it ..

this was my first invention ..

so many years ago

W
Filsinger Turbine - YouTube

[mbrownn]

The analogy I always use with the downward flow of the aether giving
a push on the proton "mass" of any atom it encounters (gravity) is
this:

If on the surface of the Earth there is 1 cubic foot of lead and 1 cubic
foot of wood (doesn't matter what kind), the wood will weigh less.

Take a net that has 1 square inch spacing and sit it in a river. It won't
give much of a push on the net. Take a net that has 1 mm square
spacing and sit it in the same river, it will have quite a bit of push on it.
If you take both nets and move it against the flow of the river, the
1sq inch mesh will move easier than the 1mm square mesh that has quite
a bit of resistance (that is analogous to the weight of an object).

As the aether comes down towards the center of the mass of the Earth,
it imparts a push on the protons on the way.

The wood has a density like the 1 square inch net. You grab the wood
and lift up on it and there is only so much resistance to the aetheric river
pouring through it. You grab the lead with 1mm square mesh and lift
it up against the river and it feels heavier because there is quite a bit
more push on it from the aetheric river.

That is gravity and why objects with a denser "matrix" appear to be
"heavier". Weight is just an effect of the push of the aether as it
goes through it on the way to the center of the mass of the Earth.

Hence - the lighter wood and heavier lead that are both 1 cubic foot
in size.

Now take an object and rotate it at high speed so that the axis (shaft
or axle)
is perpendicular to the ground. Let's say it is an aluminum sphere or disc.
As the aether pushes down towards the atoms that make up the
aluminum, the atoms that are rotating in a plane perpendicular to the
flow of the aether will deflect some of that aether around it thereby decreasing the downward push (when it is moving up)
on it - and also thereby allowing for a reduction in weight. That is
why a rotating mass like this can be lifted up against "gravity" and
be lighter than it is and meet less gravitational resistance that it does
when it is completely still. Gyroscopes support my idea, they do
demonstrate a reduction in weight when lifted.

If we use this concept of gravity as described and extrapolate it's logic to
virtually every conceivable observable phenomena relating to gravity, it
holds up. I use the word "virtually" as a disclaimer but I have not yet
found anything that violates this stream of logic. It even holds up
when we talk about gravitational attraction between two objects!

Earlier I mentioned something in regards to someone that is a skeptic
that silver and iron will not fall at the same rate. This does not contradict
anything I am saying about the aether.

The facts are that silver being a non-ferrous metal will fall slower. As it
cuts through the Earth's magnetic field, a counter current is induced in
the silver that opposes the Earth's magnetic field causing a slight repulsion
slowing the fall of the silver.

The difference isn't big but throws everything in the garbage that states
everything in a vacuum falls at the same rate. If there is a planet with the
same mass as the Earth but no magnetic field, then both would fall at the
same rate. However, we're on Earth and these equations are wrong on
Planet Earth. This difference in falling speed is well known in the lab at
a small scale. Difference is small but is nevertheless there - the freefall
equations do not account for this and are therefore wrong. Those that
push the math math math as the answer has to concede that the outcome
of an equation is correct or it isn't and the freefall equations are only
conditional and apply to everything as long as it isn't a non-ferrous
metal. That means, the formula's are conditional which mean they defeat
the purpose of even being formulas.

I have not seen the distinction made but I'd like to see a test if the
iron ball would actually fall faster as it it attracted to a magnetic field and
if a piece of wood would be the baseline not significantly interfered by
a magnetic field at all.

Anyway, I didn't see an answer from the skeptic so I wanted to clarify
what i meant by silver and iron not falling at the same rate.

In any case, that is my own personal model of gravity - a part of it
and it explains gravitational attraction between two objects (one big and
one small for example).

Anyway, if you have a sphere and you give a huge potential difference
at two opposing ends... like millions of volts at the top facing up
for example, the positive component of the aether as it moves down
towards that sphere will repel away and deflect around that highly charged
positive potential and will be attracted to the negative potential at the
bottom that the sphere is sitting on. Not only is there deflection in this
case like the spinning disc, the positive part of the aether is attracted
to the negative bottom that no aether is moving through the actual
matter of the sphere but simultaneously - the negative is pulling on the
positive coming aether as the highly charged positive is attracted
to the negative aether, which will make the sphere move in the upward
direction against gravity. Not only does it lift, it does so with zero inertia.
Why? Because all the aether is deflected around the shell of the sphere
(ship) and cannot have inertia if none of the aether is imparting a push
on the mass of the ship.

Inertia and time can only exist if there is a resistance of mass to the
aether it is moving through. If the aether is deflected around the mass,
then there is a negative resistance and the mass is actually sucked
into the forward direction at negative resistance and at negative inertia
meaning no time is flowing, this flushes Einstein down the toilet.

If the very substance (aether) is deflected around the ship (sphere),
there is no inertia or resistance to the movement of this mass through
through space at any velocity because none of the mass of the ship
is being pushed on by the positive component of the aether - none
of the aether can push on the protons of the atoms of any of the mass
of the ship if there is a high enough potential difference on different parts
of the ship (sphere) to deflect the aether around it. Therefore,
transportation without inertia or time loss is possible. So using these
principles to go to the next star system is possible without going there
and coming back to find that everyone you knew was dead and many
generations has passed. That is only necessary in Einstein's world but
not mine because I recognize the aether and respect it's principles and
operating parameters. Of course I can't claim anything I'm saying is true
at this moment but many experiments I have done do give evidence
that support where I'm going with this that gives me even more reason
to believe it.

Slow down, that's a bit too fast for me.

I understand the density effect and also the the breaking effect of metals in a magnetic field, and it makes sense. So does the gyroscope.

Assuming gravity is the flow of aether into a mass, What is attracting it, is it the nucleus being positive on an atomic level? If so it does help to explain the magnetic and electrical effects of the earth. what happens to the aether when it gets to the nucleus or core?

I postulated that there is both positive and negative aether how does this effect it or does the aether have positive and negative poles? does it exist in pairs?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm not trying to put down your theory, I'm just trying to piece it together in my mind. Once I have the framework I should be able to understand the wider concepts a little better then.

This is deep stuff my friend

[mbrownn]

Have you read my ping pong ball analogy of the aether. To me it explains current flow, radiant (aether) flow and magnetism in electrical circuits but I was never able to grasp the gravity aspect. The things you are telling me may fit in with this or possibly throw it out, either way I want to know your thoughts

Based upon my understanding....

"What is the aether? Imagine a ping pong ball

Imagine a ping pong ball with a small bar magnet going through it from equator to equator, now imagine electrically charged poles set at 90 degrees to the magnet poles and gravitational poles set at 90 degrees to the other two. Now imagine that the surface of the ping pong ball has a force field strong enough to keep it apart from the other similar ping pong balls. Just think what a swimming pool full of these ping pong balls sort of floating equidistant from each other and the interactions they would have. Now imagine a wind constantly causing turbulence between them, that's how I see the aether although there may be other forces with poles as yet undiscovered in the ping pong balls too.

Now imagine that two balls manage to get close enough together that the opposite poles can now overcome the repelling force of the surface, be it electrical, magnetic or gravitational. If enough of these come together it may become a photon and still more would make the sub atomic particles we know of. Now imagine what would happen in this sea if we introduce random forces such as electrical charges, magnetism and gravity. Quite a complex model isn't it?

Now imagine someone places a wire through it and runs current through it in pulses and also what would happen if someone coiled that wire. I think that this may be the way the aether interacts with inductors or something like that.

Now you have a picture of my aetheric model. I will introduce some oveunity concepts.

Where is this energy coming from? Something anomalous is happening in the coil.

If we put a voltage across a coil, current flows but the fact that we can put a capacitor in series on the return and charge it up tells you that this energy has not been consumed in the coil. Most of this energy comes out of the coil and is shorted out on the source and converted to heat. What is consumed, by some means, powers a motor. The same thing happens when we pulse a coil but there is a second output known commonly as flyback that cost nothing more to produce than running the motor. If we collect this and add it to what has passed through the coil we find we have more energy than we put in when we use high frequency.

When an electron enters into a wire we create a negatively charged pole. By the Laws of attraction, anything positively charged will be attracted and anything negative will be repelled. When that electron leaves, the wire is for a moment, charged positively by what has been attracted and so the reverse law of attraction happens. It has been proven by experiment that some of this positive charge can be used to charge batteries and capacitors but yet little or no current flows. This is a second source of energy to be found in a pulsed coil. This must not be mistaken for the inductive kickback caused by the magnetic field collapse. Inductive kickback cannot be of a higher potential (voltage) than the power that created it. The higher voltage measured on inductive kickback is actually this second input. It is only momentary spike whereas the inductive kickback lasts a much longer period of time and has current. By creating very short pulses it has been found that these spikes have at least 97% of the energy that charged the coil when charging batteries. If the voltage of the charging battery is higher than the voltage pulsed into the coil, it cannot be the inductive kickback that is charging the battery.

If we now add up all the power in the circuit we see something very important has happened. Assuming very low resistance wire is used in a coil we can have an input of 1 watt and close to 1 watt output to charge a capacitor in series in the return wire. We have an output of almost 1 watt inductive kickback plus a spike which can put almost 1 watt of charge in a battery, plus magnetic energy that can power a motor. 1 input = 4 outputs of near equal magnitudes.

All this is in many areas of physics and is accepted but not included in standard electrical theory.

Now we can theorize and take this a step further. When we put an electron into a wire, we get a separation of charges outside of the wire; we have demonstrated that the positive can be collected. It must be that the negative is there too for us to collect and many have demonstrated devices that claim to do just that.

This input of charge from the environment does not need any conductor or media, it is present in a vacuum and because of this it must be radiant energy.

I think the aether is a sea of both positive and negative charges in equilibrium; the negative charges are the cold electricity you speak of. A wire with an electron creates a dipole and is then able to separate the charges; some of that charge can be collected with a Bedini circuit. The gray tube demonstrates that we can collect it as a ripple as it propagates outward, a possible confirmation of that aetheric sea.

Nothing in this breaks any laws of physics, no new energy is created, we have a second source putting energy in to the circuit and that is the environment.

Resistance only allows the charges to escape the wire and return to the environment as does time.

It seams logical that the greater the surface area the more energy we can collect, this also applies to frequency and potential. If we can find the frequency that will set up a ripple so that the waves are in time with the circuit, we should get an increase in quantity of this charge. If we create a standing wave on the collector we will then get a flow and that flow can be controlled by potential

By creating a charge or dipole we can attract some of these aetheric ping pong balls with their electricl poles into our system and as the dipole is shut off these ping pong balls will shoot back out. If we pass a current through the wire it will cause the attracted poles to line up and move along the wire with the current, as the electrical poles are lined up so will the magnetic ones at 90 degrees to the electrical ones, causing the magnetic field around the wire. The gravitational poles are still random so no gravitational effects are seen.

The same will be true if we create a moving magnetic field, it will drag along the aether with the electrical poles lining up but at 90 degrees to the magnetic field. The positive electrical poles will drag along the electrons in the wire causing current flow. I am leaving gravity out of it at this stage as we will need a second force to bring that into play.

In either case the "free" thing is a force, not energy, at 90 degrees to the force we created and it will not be of the same type as what we created ie magnetic causes electrical and electrical causes magnetic. What gives us the energy is when we make the force do work, in other words when we make the force interact with matter. The free energy is when the force created is switched off and the aether goes back to its normal random interactions but momentarily interacting with matter. The movement caused by creating our force is what we had to pay for. Hopefully this explains what is happening in a Bedini circuit.

Now to make the free energy flow we can do it in two ways, the first is by creating standing waves in the aether by using oscillating circuits and using the potential difference to create a flow in our circuits. The second is actually simpler to do, when we charge a coil we pay to charge it by passing current through it, upon discharge we get more current for free only reduced in power by ohms law. As there is current flow there is a magnetic field created by the alignment of the aether with the discharge being for free. Remember that the only energy consumed was due to ohms law so if we collect the discharge in a capacitor and use it to power the next pulse with a little top up that we have to pay for. It is only the top up, ie losses due to ohms law, we have to pay for and NOT the load or work done by the aether."

[willy96]

Slow down, that's a bit too fast for me.

I understand the density effect and also the the breaking effect of metals in a magnetic field, and it makes sense. So does the gyroscope.

Assuming gravity is the flow of aether into a mass, What is attracting it, is it the nucleus being positive on an atomic level? If so it does help to explain the magnetic and electrical effects of the earth. what happens to the aether when it gets to the nucleus or core?
I postulated that there is both positive and negative aether how does this effect it or does the aether have positive and negative poles? does it exist in pairs?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm not trying to put down your theory, I'm just trying to piece it together in my mind. Once I have the framework I should be able to understand the wider concepts a little better then.

This is deep stuff my friend

im not sure this is in fact how it works ...

i think its more like saclar mostly ... and it is drawn in to the core of the earth from the earth's magnetic spinn gravity is cyntrifical force pulling down dirrectly related to mass spinning ..

W

its like water in a drain ... but drawing in energy from the sun and dispersing saclar from the crystals that make up the planet ! my stones tap this energy !
and redirrect it to human DNA

i suspect the pos and neg saclar comeing and going holds the the sphere earth in its ring ... and they will travel to the sun and back ...

this gets into dubble time time and half time ... and no not foot ball ! sun dubble time .... earth time .... earth's core half time ...

[shawnnweed]

im not sure this is in fact how it works ...

i think its more like saclar mostly ... and it is drawn in to the core of the earth from the earth's magnetic spinn gravity is cyntrifical force pulling down dirrectly related to mass spinning ..

W

its like water in a drain ... but drawing in energy from the sun and dispersing saclar from the crystals that make up the planet ! my stones tap this energy !
and redirrect it to human DNA

i suspect the pos and neg saclar comeing and going holds the the sphere earth in its ring ... and they will travel to the sun and back ...

this gets into dubble time time and half time ... and no not foot ball ! sun dubble time .... earth time .... earth's core half time ...

I personally believe the earth's core is made of iron an nickel in a molten state that nears 13,000 F. I beleive this core is suspended in the air and held in place by opposing electromagnetic forces, such as the opposing magnetic forces in a rodin coil can hold a neodymium ball in stasis causing it to orbit while spinning at great speeds. This interior magnetic field grabbs lightly at the solid metal in the earth's crust and causes the entire planet to rotate. I beleive there is about 1500 miles of empty space and then the core is surrounded by a shell of mostly copper on the exterior and lined with a super thin shell of nickel / Iron that comes loose from the interior core every once in a while. On the outside of this shell is miles and miles of water. In essance a superheated ocean that makes the oceans we have in front of our eyes look like mud puddles. After all if mount Arrarat is 3 1/2 miles high and the flood during noah's time covered it then we are talking about four miles depth of water that went back into the earth where it came from. And remember it took only a few hours for the sunami in Japan to wipe a whole town of the map but it took three months, after it stopped raining 40 days and nights or 1 1/3 months, for all these cubic miles of water to recede back into the earth where it came from. This super heated water is what the earth's crust floats on, which easily explains how the continents can drift so far apart without completely destroying themselves or tearing the earth apart in the process, they hydroplaned to their current places(no continental slow drift over millions of years). This superheated water is about 6,000 F. but can not evaporate because it is trapped. It keeps the lower portin of the earth's crust in a molten state. All this water is what keeps the earth's surface from being in a completley molten state. After all they say the sun's surface is 10,000 F., which is less hot than the earth's core, and imagine if the sun was only 4,000 miles away from the earth's suface. Anyone with an once of common sense would say that the entire earth in that state would be completely molten. Yet we have a minature sun in our earth's core, only 4,000 miles away, and it doesn't cause everything to be molten? Not buying it. the only thing that can absorb and transfer that much heat, evenly, is about 200 miles, or more, of water. Not even diamonds could sustain 13,000 F. It would also explain why when they try to drill past the earth's crust they alway have mud come up from those depth spewing oxygen and hydrogen. You would think at those temperatures, depth and pressre that the only thing down there would be really dry rock and metal. Instead they find mud right before the drill bit melts off. I also beleive that because this water is inbetween the crust and this shell of copper that the vortexing water causes a constant current of electricity, which can always be tapped into; there is always electricity in the earth's crust. This is why when clouds pass overhead that are filled with water that you get a spark gap effect between the clouds and the earth called lightening. We know that electricity can spark through the clouds but it's slow motion photography that showed us that most lightening bolts strike up from the earth upward and then back down to the ground. The earth's crust hold huge potentials of electricity it is just spread out very thin and needs a catalist to coalesce this electricity, One man understood this and was constantly tapping into this potentail by creating his own permanent cloud above his head, this man's name was tesla and his own personal cloud was called the tesla coil / tower.

[shawnnweed]

I personally believe the earth's core is made of iron an nickel in a molten state that nears 13,000 F. I beleive this core is suspended in the air and held in place by opposing electromagnetic forces, such as the opposing magnetic forces in a rodin coil can hold a neodymium ball in stasis causing it to orbit while spinning at great speeds. This interior magnetic field grabbs lightly at the solid metal in the earth's crust and causes the entire planet to rotate. I beleive there is about 1500 miles of empty space and then the core is surrounded by a shell of mostly copper on the exterior and lined with a super thin shell of nickel / Iron that comes loose from the interior core every once in a while. On the outside of this shell is miles and miles of water. In essance a superheated ocean that makes the oceans we have in front of our eyes look like mud puddles. After all if mount Arrarat is 3 1/2 miles high and the flood during noah's time covered it then we are talking about four miles depth of water that went back into the earth where it came from. And remember it took only a few hours for the sunami in Japan to wipe a whole town of the map but it took three months, after it stopped raining 40 days and nights or 1 1/3 months, for all these cubic miles of water to recede back into the earth where it came from. This super heated water is what the earth's crust floats on, which easily explains how the continents can drift so far apart without completely destroying themselves or tearing the earth apart in the process, they hydroplaned to their current places(no continental slow drift over millions of years). This superheated water is about 6,000 F. but can not evaporate because it is trapped. It keeps the lower portin of the earth's crust in a molten state. All this water is what keeps the earth's surface from being in a completley molten state. After all they say the sun's surface is 10,000 F., which is less hot than the earth's core, and imagine if the sun was only 4,000 miles away from the earth's suface. Anyone with an once of common sense would say that the entire earth in that state would be completely molten. Yet we have a minature sun in our earth's core, only 4,000 miles away, and it doesn't cause everything to be molten? Not buying it. the only thing that can absorb and transfer that much heat, evenly, is about 200 miles, or more, of water. Not even diamonds could sustain 13,000 F. It would also explain why when they try to drill past the earth's crust they alway have mud come up from those depth spewing oxygen and hydrogen. You would think at those temperatures, depth and pressre that the only thing down there would be really dry rock and metal. Instead they find mud right before the drill bit melts off. I also beleive that because this water is inbetween the crust and this shell of copper that the vortexing water causes a constant current of electricity, which can always be tapped into; there is always electricity in the earth's crust. This is why when clouds pass overhead that are filled with water that you get a spark gap effect between the clouds and the earth called lightening. We know that electricity can spark through the clouds but it's slow motion photography that showed us that most lightening bolts strike up from the earth upward and then back down to the ground. The earth's crust hold huge potentials of electricity it is just spread out very thin and needs a catalist to coalesce this electricity, One man understood this and was constantly tapping into this potentail by creating his own permanent cloud above his head, this man's name was tesla and his own personal cloud was called the tesla coil / tower.

In a nutshell the earth is a giant electromagnet, which shows intelligent design.

[Aaron]

gravity and aether

Assuming gravity is the flow of aether into a mass, What is attracting it, is it the nucleus being positive on an atomic level? If so it does help to explain the magnetic and electrical effects of the earth. what happens to the aether when it gets to the nucleus or core?

I postulated that there is both positive and negative aether how does this effect it or does the aether have positive and negative poles? does it exist in pairs?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm not trying to put down your theory, I'm just trying to piece it together in my mind. Once I have the framework I should be able to understand the wider concepts a little better then.

This is deep stuff my friend

In my opinion the downward flow of aether is so abundant in its presence that every bit of mass of and on the Earth is subject to being touched
by the aether.

Mass displaces aether and the aether rebounds back to where it is displaced from. Stick your finger into a balloon and it tries to rebound back to where it was.

I think the aether is identical to the "virtual photon flux of the quantum mechanical vacuum" that has negative and positive charges. Basically like "1 dimensional" positive and negative charges that mostly cancel each other out but there is a net positive or we wouldn't have an observable universe.

The aether imparts like an electrostatic push on the mass of the atoms that make up the mass which is why the objects are pushed towards the ground.

The aether in the core of the Earth I believe goes through different changes. Nobody knows what is going on down there but I think with heat, friction, etc... that the aether transmutes into electrons and/or other "particles" that can rise to the surface of the Earth. This is why the downward flow of the aether doesn't come into an equilibrium and is constantly moving - otherwise, there would be no gravity.

Because of the dynamic nature of this, I think that outright perpetual motion mobiles are possible - I have no idea how to make one but I don't see it ruled out as a possibility. More easy is because of this dynamic potential that overunity is not even an issue.

[mbrownn]

The weakness in my ping pong ball theory is as follows.

As I said, when an electron causes the electrical poles of the aether to line up, the magnetic poles do not line up unless there is movement of the electron. This poses a problem because it is expected that the magnetic poles would line up in this condition, so either my model is wrong or another force is acting upon the aether preventing it.

The same thing applies with a magnet, the aether should line up with the magnetic lines of flux causing the electrical poles to line up too but this does not happen unless we have movement of the magnet in relation to electrons in a conductor.

I have been trying to understand this and thought that it must be gravitation that is that is preventing the alignment and that gravitation must be another set of poles on the aether. For this to be the case it would mean that the gravitic poles had to be the same and always in attraction and not opposite. What would support this is the fact that no anti gravity material has yet been found.

Aaron, your theory of gravity being a current of aether does make good sense though, but if this is the case, what prevents the alignment of aetheric poles to a static charge other than my theory may be pure fantasy?

The causation of a magnetic field around a wire with a flowing current is why I believe that I must be on the right path, If I am correct it does not prove your theory to be wrong because it may be another force that is yet undiscovered causing the anomaly.

Aaron, please give me your thoughts, maybe we can find an answer together.