Why perpetual motion machines do not exist

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Aether exists and what is called virtual particles is the aether.

Ohh ok, then explain why experiments show that virtual particles exist, actual particles like electrons and positrons coming into existence just like real particles?

Perpetual motion is an object in perpetual motion because it overcomes
or has no resistance to its movement. Perpetual motion has nothing to do with
electricity, heat or any other system. It is a myth that these "laws of
motion" carry over to other systems - you need to keep things in context.

Keep in mind that perpetual motion is actually a requirement according to Newton’s First Law of Motion.

First law: The velocity of a body remains constant unless the body is acted upon by an external force.

It says the body remains in perpetual motion unless an external force acts upon the body. Unless is not a requirement; it is a condition. It does not say that a body must have external force acted up on; it says unless there is.

Newton's first law only gives good approximation. This is because Newton's first law only holds true in an inertial frame of reference without wave-particle duality. Newton's first law is not absolutely true, in fact Newton's first law is NEVER true in this universe. This is because of things such as the uncertainty principle, time dilation, and quantum entanglement.

It is irrelevant whether or not the probability is extremely high that an external force will act up on the body. So although that perpetual motion is a

requirement that precedes any possible resistance, perpetual motion has
NOTHING to do with an "overunity" electrical, heat or other system that
doesn't involve a mass moving in some mechanical motion without resistance. And claiming that anyone that believes that a heat, electrical,
or other system can output more than is input is perpetual motion, well,
you only show that you have no idea about any of the differences or

distinctions that separate these systems from each other.



It is as ridiculous to claim these are perpetual motion claims as it is to
claim these systems are perpetual motion. Both are ignorant.



And furthermore, Newton believed in the aether too so don't quote someone that believes in the aether to disprove something when you are only selectively taking
parts of his argument to benefit your belief while discarding the others. You have
to take everything in context.



“1. And first I suppose that there is diffused through all places an aethereal substance capable of contraction & dilatation, strongly elastick, & in a word, much like air in all respects, but far more subtile.
2. I suppose this aether pervades all gross bodies, but yet so as to stand rarer in their pores then in free spaces, & so much ye rarer as their pores are less ...
3. I suppose ye rarer aether within bodies & ye denser without them, not to be terminated in a mathematical superficies, but to grow gradually into one another.”
- Sir Isaac Newton

Ok, where is the evidence that this "aether" exists? Show me one experiment showing it's existence.

[Aaron]

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I'll ignore your selective arguments and will just post this as one of many
experiments. Aether is real and e=mc2 is junk science.

Spinning Ball Experiment – Rotating Objects, Dr. Harold Edgerton, Force Machine

Spinning Ball Experiment

One of the first experiments he did was designed to detect if there was any difference in gravitational effect on a rotating object verses non-rotating object. The idea was actually initiated by a student of DePalma’s and after an extensive search in the literature, no evidence could be found that the experiment had been performed before. It became an educational exercise to see if this variation on Galileo’s big rock verses little rock falling experiment would show any variation in the rate of fall.

At this time DePalma was a senior scientist specializing in photographic sciences with the Polaroid Land Corporation and lecturing part time at M.I.T. His expertise ranged from highspeed stroboscopic photography, his mentor was the highly regarded Dr. Harold Edgerton, to Physics and Electrical Engineering. With this background he designed an experiment using two 1 inch diameter ball bearings, one not rotating and one rotating 18,000 rpm produced by a hand router. The assembly then was given a precisely measured thrust and photographed in the dark with a 60 cycle strobe light. Repeating this numerous times, and analyzing the parallel trajectories of the ball bearings as documented photographically, did indeed reveal a variation in the gravitational behavior of the rotating ball bearing verses the non-rotating ball bearing. The rotating ball given the same thrust, went to a higher point in its trajectory, fell faster, and hit the bottom of its trajectory before the non-rotating ball bearing. A second test repeatedly demonstrated a small but significant and clearly perceptible effect with a stationary mechanism designed to drop the ball bearings from a height of only six feet.

After years of reflection on these results he wrote an evaluation on May 3, 1977 called, “Understanding the Dropping of the Spinning Ball Experiment.”
http://depalma.pair.com/SpinningBall(Understanding).html
The conclusions are organized:

1. Rotating objects falling in a gravitational field are accelerated at a rate greater that G,
   the commonly accepted rate for non-rotating objects falling in a vacuum.
2. Pendula utilizing bob weights which are rotating, swing non-sinusoidally with time
   periods increased over pendula with non-rotating bobs.
3. A precessing gyroscope has a measurable anomalous inertial mass, greater than its stationary mass.
4. An anomalous field phenomenon has been discovered, the OD field, which confers inertia on objects immersed within it. This field is generated by the constrained forced precession of a rotating gyroscope.

One of the early devices DePalma used to observe these effects consisted of an apparatus that he called the, “Force Machine,” which consisted of two counter-rotating gyroscopes described in “The Generation of a Unidirectional Force.” April 22, 1974. Generation of a Unidirectional Force

The archetypical gravitational engine or Force machine is a combination of two counter-rotating gyroscopes with axles parallel and rotors co-planer. Constructed in 1971, the machine weighed 276 pounds. The assembly was suspended from a spring scale and the gyroscopes driven counter rotating to each other at 7600 rpm. Under these circumstances, the support cylinder was then rotated itself at 4 rpm to precess the two gyros.

Precisely accurate measurements, consistently demonstrated 4-6 pounds of weight loss.

A variation of this device also described in this paper as the”Linear Force Machine,” provided enough propulsion or “force against space itself” or “space drive” effect to propel someone across the room on a small cart.
In another experiment showing the properties of an “inertial field” created by the proximity of a rotating object, the frequency of a tuning fork in an Accutron watch is changed by this field effect as demonstrated by the variation in the time shown on the watch. On the Nature of Electrical Induction

The results of the Spinning Ball Experiment were published in the British Scientific Research Association Journal in 1976. This experiment was also outlined personally by DePalma to Dr. Edward Purcell, one of the most eminent experimental physicists from Harvard at that time. According to DePalma, Purcell, after contemplating the experiment for several minutes, remarked “This will change everything.”

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Now what you're going to do since you are obviously unaware of these
types of experiments is to take a cursory glance at this, decide you know
what it is without even trying the experiment, you will post your comments
on why this doesn't prove anything and why this doesn't disprove
Einstein, etc... all based on a couple minute response.

After that, the only thing you succeeded in is to prove that you believe
the world is flat and even when a trip in orbit around the world proves
otherwise, you are still in denial.

Your method of operation is akin to James Randi's style.

[mbrownn]

Aether exists and what is called virtual particles is the aether.

Your claim about not being perpetual motion is ridiculous - on a solar panel?

No it is not but to say it isn't perpetual motion means you think it is a perpetual motion
claim, which is ridiculous.

Perpetual motion is an object in perpetual motion because it overcomes
or has no resistance to its movement. Perpetual motion has nothing to do with
electricity, heat or any other system. It is a myth that these "laws of
motion" carry over to other systems - you need to keep things in context.

Keep in mind that perpetual motion is actually a requirement according to Newton’s First Law of Motion.

First law: The velocity of a body remains constant unless the body is acted upon by an external force.

It says the body remains in perpetual motion unless an external force acts upon the body. Unless is not a requirement; it is a condition. It does not say that a body must have external force acted up on; it says unless there is. It is irrelevant whether or not the probability is extremely high that an external force will act up on the body. So although that perpetual motion is a

requirement that precedes any possible resistance, perpetual motion has
NOTHING to do with an "overunity" electrical, heat or other system that
doesn't involve a mass moving in some mechanical motion without resistance. And claiming that anyone that believes that a heat, electrical,
or other system can output more than is input is perpetual motion, well,
you only show that you have no idea about any of the differences or

distinctions that separate these systems from each other.



It is as ridiculous to claim these are perpetual motion claims as it is to
claim these systems are perpetual motion. Both are ignorant.



And furthermore, Newton believed in the aether too so don't quote someone that believes in the aether to disprove something when you are only selectively taking
parts of his argument to benefit your belief while discarding the others. You have
to take everything in context.



“1. And first I suppose that there is diffused through all places an aethereal substance capable of contraction & dilatation, strongly elastick, & in a word, much like air in all respects, but far more subtile.
2. I suppose this aether pervades all gross bodies, but yet so as to stand rarer in their pores then in free spaces, & so much ye rarer as their pores are less ...
3. I suppose ye rarer aether within bodies & ye denser without them, not to be terminated in a mathematical superficies, but to grow gradually into one another.”
- Sir Isaac Newton

nuff said

Thanks for the sanity

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I'll ignore your selective arguments and will just post this as one of many
experiments. Aether is real and e=mc2 is junk science.

If e=mc2 is junk, then why does nuclear power produce electricity and what causes the sun to produce photons?

After years of reflection on these results he wrote an evaluation on May 3, 1977 called, “Understanding the Dropping of the Spinning Ball Experiment.”
http://depalma.pair.com/SpinningBall(Understanding).html
The conclusions are organized:

1. Rotating objects falling in a gravitational field are accelerated at a rate greater that G,

1. Or rotating objects are accelerated at a rate greater than G because of the effects of time dilation. Thanks for proving Einstein once more.
   
   

   the commonly accepted rate for non-rotating objects falling in a vacuum.

2. Pendula utilizing bob weights which are rotating, swing non-sinusoidally with time
   periods increased over pendula with non-rotating bobs.