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  • #31
    Tesla used primary, or transmitted X-Rays, we use secondary, or reflected X-Rays. Tesla's rays formed at the end of the bulb, in axial relation to the cathode rays, the Coolidge rays form at a dense target, emerging at right angles to the cathode rays. This is a very important distinction. Tesla rays are therapeutic, travelling great distances, Coolidge rays are deadly, travelling short distances. These are very important distinctions.

    Cathode Rays are NOT electrons! "X-Rays" are NOT Tesla Rays!
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    • #32
      Coolidge Tube, Transverse X-Rays

      Coolidge Tube, Transverse X-Rays

      The following text was taken from the appendix of "Tesla Lectures, Patents, and Articles"





      The following pictures where locating using a quick google search of the Coolidge X-Ray tube:





      Also, It would be helpful if someone could locate a link to the book:

      Roentgen Rays and Phenomena of the Anode and Cathode, E.P. Thompson, 1896, Van Nostrand Co.

      This book has all the Tesla Experiments in it. It is the only book that talks about Tesla's actual work. Eric has read all these books several times, front to back.
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      • #33
        Roentgen Rays and Phenomena of the Anode and Cathode, E.P. Thompson, 1896

        Originally posted by T-rex View Post
        Roentgen Rays and Phenomena of the Anode and Cathode, E.P. Thompson, 1896, Van Nostrand Co.

        This book has all the Tesla Experiments in it. It is the only book that talks about Tesla's actual work.
        http://www.archive.org/download/roen...00thomrich.pdf
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        • #34
          Thankyou very much for that Aaron!!

          this was also posted in the Eric Dollard thread:

          Eric asked me to point out the Tesla coil pictured in the fractal discharge(which Eric built), compared to the original picture of the Tesla coil in Colorado Springs.
          Here is the discharge:


          And here is the Colorado Springs version:



          Look at it and notice the similarites, make a visual comparison. Same number of turns, same width to height ratio. The pictures speak for themselves. The coil pictured sitting next to Tesla inside the fence is called the main coil, or the "Extra Coil". The primary and secondary coils are the fence, 51 ft in diameter. In the "Extra Coil" it is critical that the length and the diameter are equal.

          Now notice a second picture of Colorado Springs:



          Notice the tall, slender coils to the right of the picture, we will term them "cardboard tube" coils. This is a primary source of misinformation about Tesla coil's existing today. The "Extra Coil" in the left of the picture is the one doing all the work. The Arc Discharges would be there regardless of the "cardboard tubes". The different height cardboard tubes was Tesla dealing with different frequencies and harmonics, they were called Test Coils.


          Pictured below are people making a Tesla coil WRONG:


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          • #35
            Originally posted by T-rex View Post
            Cathode Rays are NOT electrons!

            Are you trusting quotes from Tesla on that one?
            Originally posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray
            Cathode rays (also called an electron beam or e-beam) are streams of electrons observed in vacuum tubes. If an evacuated glass tube is equipped with two electrodes and a voltage is applied, the glass opposite of the negative electrode is observed to glow, due to electrons emitted from and travelling perpendicular to the cathode (the electrode connected to the negative terminal of the voltage supply). They were first observed in 1869 by German physicist Johann Hittorf, and were named in 1876 by Eugen Goldstein kathodenstrahlen, or cathode rays. [1]

            Electrons were first discovered as the constituents of cathode rays. In 1897 British physicist J. J. Thomson showed the rays were composed of a previously unknown negatively charged particle, which was later named the electron. Cathode ray tubes (CRTs) using a focused beam of electrons deflected by electric or magnetic fields, create the image in a classic television set.
            Originally posted by T-rex
            Tesla used primary, or transmitted X-Rays, we use secondary, or reflected X-Rays. Tesla's rays formed at the end of the bulb, in axial relation to the cathode rays, the Coolidge rays form at a dense target, emerging at right angles to the cathode rays. This is a very important distinction. Tesla rays are therapeutic, travelling great distances, Coolidge rays are deadly, travelling short distances. These are very important distinctions.
            ... "X-Rays" are NOT Tesla Rays!
            Originally posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xray
            Nikola Tesla

            In April 1887, Nikola Tesla began to investigate X-rays using high voltages and tubes of his own design, as well as Crookes tubes. From his technical publications, it is indicated that he invented and developed a special single-electrode X-ray tube,[51][52] which differed from other X-ray tubes in having no target electrode. The principle behind Tesla's device is called the Bremsstrahlung process, in which a high-energy secondary X-ray emission is produced when charged particles (such as electrons) pass through matter. By 1892, Tesla performed several such experiments, but he did not categorize the emissions as what were later called X-rays. Tesla generalized the phenomenon as radiant energy of "invisible" kinds.[53][54] Tesla stated the facts of his methods concerning various experiments in his 1897 X-ray lecture before the New York Academy of Sciences.[55] Also in this lecture, Tesla stated the method of construction and safe operation of X-ray equipment. His X-ray experimentation by vacuum high field emissions also led him to alert the scientific community to the biological hazards associated with X-ray exposure.
            At that time we (humans) weren't aware of the possible genetic dangers from ionizing radiation, I wouldn't trust Tesla Rays to be healthy for long exposures. It is possible that he was just trying to "sell" his method.
            Originally posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremsstrahlung
            Bremsstrahlung, from bremsen "to brake" and Strahlung "radiation", i.e. "braking radiation" or "deceleration radiation") is electromagnetic radiation produced by the deceleration of a charged particle when deflected by another charged particle, typically an electron by an atomic nucleus. The moving particle loses kinetic energy, which is converted into a photon because energy is conserved. The term is also used to refer to the process of producing the radiation. Bremsstrahlung has a continuous spectrum, which becomes more intense and shifts toward higher frequencies when the energy of the accelerated particles is increased.

            Strictly speaking, bremsstrahlung refers to any radiation due to the acceleration of a charged particle, which includes synchrotron radiation; however, it is frequently used in the more narrow sense of radiation from electrons stopping in matter.
            Originally posted by T-rex
            Roentgen Rays and Phenomena of the Anode and Cathode, E.P. Thompson, 1896, Van Nostrand Co.
            This book was published a before the coining of the term "electron" for the quanta. The word "electron" would not have been used in the book at all.

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by jpolakow View Post
              Thankyou very much for that Aaron!!

              this was also posted in the Eric Dollard thread:

              Eric asked me to point out the Tesla coil pictured in the fractal discharge(which Eric built), compared to the original picture of the Tesla coil in Colorado Springs.
              Here is the discharge:


              And here is the Colorado Springs version:



              Look at it and notice the similarites, make a visual comparison. Same number of turns, same width to height ratio. The pictures speak for themselves. The coil pictured sitting next to Tesla inside the fence is called the main coil, or the "Extra Coil". The primary and secondary coils are the fence, 51 ft in diameter. In the "Extra Coil" it is critical that the length and the diameter are equal.

              Now notice a second picture of Colorado Springs:



              Notice the tall, slender coils to the right of the picture, we will term them "cardboard tube" coils. This is a primary source of misinformation about Tesla coil's existing today. The "Extra Coil" in the left of the picture is the one doing all the work. The Arc Discharges would be there regardless of the "cardboard tubes". The different height cardboard tubes was Tesla dealing with different frequencies and harmonics, they were called Test Coils.


              Pictured below are people making a Tesla coil WRONG:


              yes true most people build tesla coils in the wrong way. so i thank eric dollard and give a him a lot of credit for showing people how to build them correctly

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              • #37
                book

                Originally posted by jpolakow View Post
                Thankyou very much for that Aaron!!
                You're welcome!
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                Aaron Murakami

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                • #38
                  There is one very simple explanation of difference between Tesla x-rays and Roentgen. Albeit Teslas x-ray was produced using better technic he was also master of TUNING. Points important to digest:
                  1. Tesla didn't used reflected waves so no dispersion or wide range
                  2. Tesla used TUNED device
                  3. Tesla's images were sharp clear and taken from long distance (low intensity radiation yet still clear images)
                  4. Noone was hurt except Tesla assistant LATER, probably because of using other method (testing Roentgen rays) or untuned device

                  All above from various articles and my intuition (no 2)

                  And last but not least : current day x-ray apparatha are claimed to use lower dose of radiation yet producing better images then the old ones from fifthies. Why ? I guess the reason is the same : tuned device using only one frequency of x-rays.Think simple.

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                  • #39
                    Dit-Dit-Dit, Dah-Dit-Dah

                    (1) Cathode Rays are not electrons. J.J. Thompson did not consider his corpuscle an electron, 1000 corpuscles make up one electron, etc. Tesla rays are not X-rays, Tesla rays are primary, X-rays are secondary. Read, if you know how.

                    (2) We do not need any modern interpretations by physicists, or pedants. That is not welcome. To understand Tesla one must live in Tesla's world and one must accept the ideas of his day. Modern "Quantic" ideas are not welcome here. These are actually destructive to the understanding of Tesla, those upon which he based his work.

                    (3) I have read "Lectures, Patents, and Articles", "Colorado Springs Notes", "Experiments with Alternating Current of High Potential and High Frequency", etc from cover to cover several times. There would seem to be a distinct possibility that I know what I am saying, but no, I can be pissed on and dismissed by a farmhand.

                    (4) But for me it is immaterial. The money has run out now and the corolla will crawl into its hole on the face of the 14,000 foot high granite wall. Unfortunately the swine Hell's Angels at San Pablo Boat Harbor took my coyote. There is no internet up on the rock so I can no longer take part in the the "Internet Play Pen." QRT.

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                    • #40


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                      • #41
                        Tesla Wireless Pt2

                        tesla in his article True Wireless, Electrical Experimenter, May 1919 said this -

                        It is generally believed that these waves pass along the earth's surface and thus affect the receivers. I can hardly think of anything more improbable than this "gliding wave" theory and the conception of the "guided wireless" which are contrary to all laws of action and reaction. Why should these disturbances cling to a conductor where they are counteracted by induced currents, when they can propagate in all other directions unimpeded? The fact is that the radiations of the transmitter passing along the earth's surface are soon extinguished, the height of, the inactive zone indicated in the diagram, being some function of the wave length, the bulk of the waves traversing freely the atmosphere. Terrestrial phenomena which I have noted conclusively show that there is no Heaviside layer, or if it exists, it is of no effect. It certainly would be unfortunate if the human race were thus imprisoned and forever without power to reach out into the depths of space.

                        so with this statement we can rule out Schumann cavity resonance and ionosphere circuit theorys

                        in a article released by Leland I. Anderson tesla said the following to his lawyer when in the process suing marconi -

                        Counsel -You say radio engineers put too much energy into the radiating part. What, as a matter of fact, according to your conception, is the part of the energy that is received in the receivers in the present system?

                        Tesla

                        That has been investigated. Very valuable experiments have been made by Dr. Austin, who has measured the effects at a distance. He has evolved a formula in agreement with the Hertz wave theory, and the energy collected is an absolutely vanishing quantity. It is just enough to operate a very delicate receiver. If it were not for such devices as are now in use, the audion, for instance, nothing could be done. But with the audion, they magnify so that this infinitesimal energy they get is sufficient to operate the receiver. With my system, I can convey to a distant point millions of times the energy they transmit

                        and- There is where I answer the attacks which have been made on me. For instance, Dr. Pupin has ridiculed the Tesla system. He says,

                        "The energy goes only in all directions."

                        It does not. It goes only in one direction. He is deceived by the size and shape of the earth. Looking at the horizon, he imagines how the currents flow in all directions, but if he would only for a moment think that this earth is like a copper wire and the transmitter on the top of the same, he would immediately realize that the current only flows along the axis of the propagation

                        so tesla said his system work like a copper wire so this rules out - bending the laws of known physics

                        in true wireless he says - Granted, then, that an economic system of power transmission thru a single wire is practicable, the question arises how to collect the energy in the receivers. With this object attention is called to Fig. 5, in which a conductor is shown excited by an oscillator joined to it at one end. Evidently, as the periodic impulses pass thru the wire, differences of potential will be created along the same as well as at right angles to it in the surrounding medium and either of these may be usefully applied. Thus at a, a circuit comprising an inductance and capacity is resonantly excited in the transverse, and at b, in the longitudinal sense. At c, energy is collected in a circuit parallel to the conductor but not in contact with it, and again at d, in a circuit which is partly sunk into the conductor and may be, or not, electrically connected to the same. It is important to keep these typical dispositions in mind, for however the distant actions of the oscillator might be modified thru the immense extent of the globe the principles involved are the same

                        and this - By keeping steadily in mind that the transmission thru the earth is in every respect identical to that thru a straight wire, one will gain a clear understanding of the phenomena and will be able to judge correctly the merits of a new scheme

                        so the principles involved to send power though the globe are the same as transmission though a single wire. so tesla world wireless is just a large version of his one wire system. so if we are to know how his world system worked. first we must know how his one wire system worked

                        tesla true wireless - The operation of devices thru a single wire without return was puzzling at first because of its novelty, but can be readily explained by suitable analogs. For this purpose reference is made to Figs. 3 and 4
                        In the former the low resistance electrical conductors are represented by pipes of large cross section, the alternator by an oscillating piston and the filament of an incandescent lamp by a minute channel connecting the pipes. It will be clear from a glance at the diagram that very slight excursions of the piston would cause the fluid to rush with high velocity thru the small channel and that virtually all the energy of movement would be transformed into heat by friction, similarly to that of the electric current in the lamp filament.

                        The second diagram will now be self-explanatory. Corresponding to the terminal capacity of the electric system an elastic reservoir is employed which dispenses with the necessity of a return pipe. As the piston oscillates the bag expands and contracts, and the fluid is made to surge thru the restricted passage with great speed, this resulting in the generation of heat as in the incandescent lamp. Theoretically considered, the efficiency of conversion of energy should be the same in both cases

                        so tesla's oscillating transformer (tesla coil) works like a piston as it oscillates it causes fluid (electricity) to surge though the pipes (circuit) at high velocity were its transformed into heat by friction (current) to light the lamp making a return pipe (closed circuit) unnecessary.

                        tesla all so says this - if that plan of mine was practicable, distance meant absolutely nothing; distance merely came into consideration when you flashed rays, electro-magnetic or Hertzian waves, or some agency of that kind .

                        and - you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current that goes through the earth. That is what I am doing. Or, you can get, as these radio men, 95 percent in the energy of electromagnetic waves and only 5 percent in the energy of the current. Then you are wondering why you do not get good results. I know why I do not get good results in that way. The apparatus is suitable for one or the other method. I am not producing radiation in my system; I am suppressing electromagnetic waves. But, on the other hand, my apparatus can be used effectively with electromagnetic waves. The apparatus has nothing to do with this new method except that it is the only means to practice it. So that in my system, you should free yourself of the idea that there is radiation, that energy is radiated. It is not radiated; it is conserved

                        so no radio waves in tesla's system

                        End of part 2

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                        • #42
                          of courser no radiation in Tesla system , but is really Earth a polished metal ball for NORMAL electricity as we know it ?? I don't see it possible

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                          • #43
                            tesla did

                            Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                            of courser no radiation in Tesla system , but is really Earth a polished metal ball for NORMAL electricity as we know it ?? I don't see it possible
                            tesla used very high frequency & voltage currents and they have a lot more in common with electrostatics than electromagnetism. so the earth wouldnt give much resistance to the electricity.

                            electrostatics doesn't need a good conductor as electromagnetism doe's
                            Last edited by Aether84; 06-26-2012, 07:16 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Aether84 View Post
                              tesla used very high frequency & voltage currents and they have a lot more in common with static electricity than electromagnetism. so the earth wouldnt give much resistance to the electricity.

                              static electricity doesn't need a good conductor as electromagnetism doe's
                              Yes,it is disturbation of static electricity which moves that way.Vibration.
                              Completly different then we use from magnetic induction. This is radiant electricity,in fact.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Aether84 View Post
                                tesla used very high frequency & voltage currents and they have a lot more in common with static electricity than electromagnetism. so the earth wouldnt give much resistance to the electricity.

                                static electricity doesn't need a good conductor as electromagnetism doe's
                                Tesla states repeatedly that the frequency should be fairly low he gives
                                figures of 20 Khz, 35 Khz and so forth.

                                Page 3 lines 35 to 41
                                Patent US787412 - NIKOLA TESLA - Google Patents



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                                I would be very surprised if anyone could find reference to him using above 50 Khz at Colorado Springs.

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