Free energy from the Vacuum.

[mire]

mire

If you really want to help please provide schematics of your experiments.
All I can say is that you found one of very important tips to OU, clearly shown in Tesla radiant energy patent.We can charge capacitor electrostatically from ground but it is tricky and we have to find the best method , method used by Don Smith and Kapanadze.
As you see I'm trying to help while my ability to construct anything is very limited (due to health and other problems), but please listen.

Here is the way it has to work : electrostatic induction - YouTube , look especially around 5 minute and further.

The main issue is the attracted charge (not electrons I think but it's different story) from ground would immediately dissipate to ground I think when we have not properly tuned device : vide video and the sequence of connecting /disconnecting ground and positive rod. Because you can do something similiar with your negative ion generator it puzzles me how?

Hi there, Yes it is very interesting the effects i am able to produce.
It took me a wile to do the research, and experiments thats why i did want to share with you guys.

I have posted many configurations in the link provided below.
LIFTER TECHNOLOGY

It does require a bit of reading, and all the conclusions follow closely to the research i have done to find out the answers to why it charges as it does.

Thanks for your reply, If you have time go over the information in the link, and let me know what conclusions you draw from the information.

[mire]

You and i are all vacuum, there is a pressure that holds us together.

the energy is of one kind of charge. to act on it you only need to create a change in the pressure.

the negative electricity is that charge. It allows the pressure to immediately fill the void.

It will always equalize.

freethisone's Channel - YouTube

[GSM]

Is this what you have been thinking of Mire ?

The Tom Bearden Website

The Tom Bearden Website

[mire]

Is this what you have been thinking of Mire ?

The Tom Bearden Website

The Tom Bearden Website

This is quoted from tom Bearden web sight.

The Links you provided helps to understand what Bearden is implying, i think he said it best in the following text.

enjoy the reading.
The Free Energy Principle by Tomas Bearden

All potential gradient (trapped excess energy density) is free for the taking.23 The potential is due to the violent VPF exchange between the vacuum and the separated bipolar charges furnishing the source potential gradient. The energy of the entire universe is flowing through that source potential. You can have as much of this internal VPF flux energy (potential) as you wish, as often as you wish, so long as you don't demand current (which is power, or the rate at which the energy is being freed and dissipated). It's really simple. You can have all the trapped energy you wish, from any source. You cannot connect to the source and start to dissipate the energy as power, however, without starting to close the "gate" from which your free trapped energy is coming.

In other words, here's the iron rule: If you draw current, you kill the bipolarity gate furnishing the potential gradient (source of energy density). In that case, you kill the source. If you do not draw current, you do not kill the bipolarity gate and you do not shut down the source. In that case, you can continue to "use" it and extract trapped EM energy from it forever.

Definitions Again

Definitions: I'll put down some simple equations, that may help to explain it more exactly. First we repeat some definitions.

Energy is any ordering imposed upon the virtual particle flux of vacuum. EM energy is any ordering imposed upon the virtual photon flux of vacuum. Static energy is an ordering (a template) which is stationary with respect to the external observer. Dynamic energy is an ordering (a template) which is not stationary with respect to the external observer.

Potential: Any ordering imposed upon the virtual particle flux of vacuum. Scalar potential is an ordering (template) that is not moving with respect to the external observer. Vector potential is an ordering (template) that is moving with respect to the external observer.

The scalar EM potential is any static (with respect to the external observer) ordering imposed upon the virtual photon flux of vacuum. Etc.

Note again that energy and potential have exactly the same definition. Potential is in fact trapped energy. Scalar EM potential is static EM energy (to the external observer) or trapped (collected) EM energy. In other words, if one takes off a differential of potential onto a fixed number of coulombs, one takes off a certain magnitude of trapped EM energy. In other words, one takes out a shovelful of coal from the coal car.

Importance of Separation of Charges

We Must Not Dispel the Separation of Charges In Our Source: The difference in our coal-fired train analogy and our electrical circuit is that, in the coal train, the coal in the coal car is not automatically and continually replenished. Also, the coal in the coal car has already been collected by the mass of the coal car, so it is not infinite. In the electrical circuit, the potential gradient in the primary source is continually replenished, automatically, and it is infinite (though it has a finite energy density). The reason is simple. EM potential (in the normal sense) is actually a virtual photon flux exchange between the vacuum (the entire vacuum, all over the universe) and a charged particle or collection of charged particles.24 Thus the potential (gradient) is a powerful energy flux, pumped by the vacuum and the entire universe, that continues automatically, so long as we do not allow the collected charges in our bipolarity source to be dissipated. In terms of a battery, we achieved separation of charges inside the battery by chemical action, and we paid for that initially. Once separated, the charges essentially stay separated (because of the chemistry) unless we foolishly do something to dissipate them, such as upsetting the chemistry, so they are no longer separated positive from negative. So if we don't do anything to these separated charges, they continue to be driven by their fierce exchange of virtual photon flux with the vacuum/universe. If we then simply extract some of that flux exchange, without moving the charges, we are directly "gating" trapped EM energy from the vacuum/charged particle VPF exchange.25

The Potential Is Infinite And So Is Its Energy Content

[GSM]

Hi Mire,

Without a demo, to me this is as clear as the mud in the bottom of a duck pond.

Maybe Tom knows what he is writing about, but he has not conveyed any meaning I can interpret on this one.

[mire]

Hi Mire,

Without a demo, to me this is as clear as the mud in the bottom of a duck pond.

Maybe Tom knows what he is writing about, but he has not conveyed any meaning I can interpret on this one.

here is a full link,

The Tom Bearden Website

[mire]

Hi Mire,

Without a demo, to me this is as clear as the mud in the bottom of a duck pond.

Maybe Tom knows what he is writing about, but he has not conveyed any meaning I can interpret on this one.

The information By Tom only may allow you to see a little deeper in the pond.
The research and study does not come from Beardens web page.

In other words it was Tesla and Brown Who makes this possible.

Tom comes much latter into the picture. Don't try to see the mud without wading in the pond first. Take a dip time and time again. Sooner or later the water will clear up. cheers..

[GSM]

Thanks for the link Mire.

Nah - too muddy -

Looks like I am going to have to drain the pond = download
decant = print
filter = read/study
re-fill the pond afresh = use 'appropriate' technology

though I will be as quack as I can. (groan)

[mire]

electric tension in wire

TheEnergyMotion's Channel - YouTube

the self oscillation is caused by the fine wire of the secondary pulling toward the primary negative conductor plate.

sparks caused by the spacing of the gaps are caused by the same elastic fluid effect. Equal and opposite reaction. difference in charge.

Every conductor is static.

[boguslaw]

Tom has got it right but never proposed any viable and possible device which can use that concept. We simply do not know how to produce system without killing the dipole.
Anyway not just using one dipole....

[GSM]

Only thing I remember from Tom is tuning a scalar transmitter to a source of energy elsewhere and reverse transducing that, but no technical explanation.

Hi Mire,
Static is static. Burnt a tiny hole in my finger in an instant yesterday with an inductor oscillated static charge, but OU is something else !

[mire]

I'm not trying to be overly harsh here, but where does the "free energy" come in?

It looks to me like your ion generator is connected to mains power. The ion generator is a transformer that steps up the voltage in exchange for current. That means all your energy is coming out of the wall

let me try to expand on this.

the ion generator is generating a potential charge. It is basically a metered system. because it takes X amount of energy to turn it on.

question 1. Do you agree with that?

This can be done wireless, no connection to a plate is needed. I have succeeded in doing so. In my very first experiment not posted, I charged a stainless steel bowl just by placing the points of the emitter close.
basic stuff. if a charge is near a metal conductor, the charge will also flow into that conductor. Simple? there need not be any more energy to cause this, only what is available or what is being produced.

Question 2 Do you agree X amount of energy is produced, and is metered by the design of the ion generator circuit internals?

In a experiment the charge is placed on a bowl, and the bowl allowed to equalize the surrounding energy vacuum. Something comes in also, energy.
That is there will always be 2 kinds of charges. One a negative charge, the other positive.

Question 3. Do you agree there is 2 distinct type of charges? rub glass rub resin.

This experiment I will describe verified an increase of energy output on the stainless steel bowl, with out any contact to the ion generator.

( I make the bowl charge, i use a secondary conductor, I create a gap between the bowl and secondary, a spark will jump if the gap is close.
that is just to verify energy on the conductor, the stainless steel bowl.
I increase the gap between bowl and secondary conductor, no spark will jump.)

Conclusion of experiment.

Question 4, how did the energy output increase if I can cause the spark to finally jump a larger gap? without changing the gap, or increasing the energy of X?

Take a few minutes to answer the 4 question, I will reply to answer the last question, unless you can figure it out.
The experiments are designed to charge laden jars, ceramic capacitors, eventually electrolytic caps, and make oscillators. Also to verify, and maintain anti gravity described as the BI FIELD BROWN EFFECT.

I add a little external sources to read.

This from wiki:Charge-induced charge separation
Main article: Electrostatic induction

A charged object brought close to an electrically neutral object causes a separation of charge within the neutral object. Charges of the same polarity are repelled and charges of the opposite polarity are attracted. As the force due to the interaction of electric charges falls off rapidly with increasing distance, the effect of the closer (opposite polarity) charges is greater and the two objects feel a force of attraction. The effect is most pronounced when the neutral object is an electrical conductor as the charges are more free to move around. Careful grounding of part of an object with a charge-induced charge separation can permanently add or remove electrons, leaving the object with a global, permanent charge. This process is integral to the workings of the Van de Graaf Generator, a device commonly used to demonstrate the effects of static electricity.

Electric Fields
http://jh399.k12.sd.us/DailyAssign/P...staticelec.pdf

Thanks , sorry i did not get back to you on this sooner.

cheers

[mire]

mire


Here is the way it has to work : electrostatic induction - YouTube , look especially around 5 minute and further.

The main issue is the attracted charge (not electrons I think but it's different story) from ground would immediately dissipate to ground I think when we have not properly tuned device : vide video and the sequence of connecting /disconnecting ground and positive rod. Because you can do something similiar with your negative ion generator it puzzles me how?

After watching the movie again I saw what is claimed.
go to one minute in the movie, he describes the flow of electrons to the ground become neutral.

This is what does not happen. Reason I do not ground the primary at all. If i did yes the entire conductor will be 0 charge. If I use a secondary conductor I take only a little of the energy, and transfer it. Not destroying the primary dipole as Tom claims we should not destroy.

Basically the equalization from one conductor to the next conductor abides by his rule. Do not take the energy directly, and energy will be unlimited furnished from the seething vacuum.

I take a shovel full, and store it in a cap.

cheers.

[GSM]

Hi Mire,

Good YouTube video in Boguslaw link. I agree with all it shows.

Re your question 3 in the penultimate post - no I do not agree with you.
There is but one fundamental nature to all charges, whether positive or negative, they both have identical formation and this relates to a mathematical imbalance in the quantity of electrons retained, for whatever reason.

A spark is a breakdown of air due to excess charge differential, though the breakdown of air can be modified by alteration in ambient circumstance.

Is there some point you are wanting to communicate which I have failed to appreciate ?
Surely, if the isolated secondary charge is externally replenished then it does not matter whether you take all of it or just a fraction of it ?

But either way - this is a corollary of the magnetic field within a magnet - for in neither case can power be generated without externally induced cycling or alternation.

[Dave45]

If we take electrodes put in electrolysis setup one plate will become more susceptible to positive charges and the other more susceptible to negative charges after removing from the electrolysis bath.
A way to condition your plates.