Willy96 - post videos

[ewizard]

Yes that is a very cool vid. One big thing I got out of it when I see a rap song about free energy and energy supression is that the word on free energy is getting out more into the mainstream consciousness. That's great! Even better is the video Thrive that you see a link to below that video. It's available a number of places and is a must see.

I'll say I've seen a whole lot of IST's, Willy96 (and all his other names) videos and he is a dedicated builder and experimenter. But I can't say I've seen any self runners or obvious real-world-useful devices. Most often I seen demonstration of unusual effects which may be useful in understanding some important concepts.

[Aaron]

open source and patents

After viewing Williams movie
I have a question?

Can you assist us in a proper way to Open source with out getting a Patent??
It seems the patent laws have been Abused regarding Ou devices.
A good freind [lawyer] used to say "never hand a man a stick to beat you with"


Any Ideas?

A rock solid Protocol??

With all anticipation
Chet

Under this bogus Obama administration, they succeeded in discouraging open source sharing by changing patent laws to be "first to patent" instead of first to invent. I wouldn't be surprised if open source "free energy" movements contributed to this kind of change to discourage people from sharing - because anyone can pick it up and patent it.

Patent Office -- "First to File'' Bill (2011)

So, this encourages theft of intellectual property since the person that simply files first is considered the inventor and has patent protection.

I know from experience at least before the new patent law, that if you post something public, it is not automatically public domain despite all the claims. I can post something publicly and I can file for a patent application for up to one year after it is posted. I found this out when one greedy crook that was a member here claimed to be the inventor for my circuit and filed a patent application - the legal review found that because I posted it in the publicly, that did not make it public domain.

Most of what you hear about patents, public domain, open source from many people pushing open source are all spreading disinformation. Most is not intentional but is wrong info nevertheless.

Such as the idea that anyone can make something from a patent for personal and non-commercial use. Actually, that is false and DOES infringe on the patent holder. However, this is unenforceable and is not a practical law but it still stands, without the patent owner's explicit permission, it is technically illegal to replicate a patent for personal use. At least this is the case in the USA.

So posting stuff open source has to be done with the risk that anyone can take it and go file for a patent. If that happens, there is pretty much no recourse - at least not any recourse that won't cost a fortune to pursue.

[Aaron]

willy96 / wnt

I'll say I've seen a whole lot of IST's, Willy96 (and all his other names) videos and he is a dedicated builder and experimenter. But I can't say I've seen any self runners or obvious real-world-useful devices. Most often I seen demonstration of unusual effects which may be useful in understanding some important concepts.

He had an opportunity to share but choose to go on a rampage insulting and calling many members names so he is currently blocked from the forum. He wasn't blocked for his off topic posts that were annoying members in certain threads - just the name calling and other insults. I sent a PM to him to give him a chance but he ignored me and went on a rampage. Anyone is free to contact him through his youtube account.

[blackchisel97]

Under this bogus Obama administration, they succeeded in discouraging open source sharing by changing patent laws to be "first to patent" instead of first to invent. I wouldn't be surprised if open source "free energy" movements contributed to this kind of change to discourage people from sharing - because anyone can pick it up and patent it.

Patent Office -- "First to File'' Bill (2011)

So, this encourages theft of intellectual property since the person that simply files first is considered the inventor and has patent protection.

I know from experience at least before the new patent law, that if you post something public, it is not automatically public domain despite all the claims. I can post something publicly and I can file for a patent application for up to one year after it is posted. I found this out when one greedy crook that was a member here claimed to be the inventor for my circuit and filed a patent application - the legal review found that because I posted it in the publicly, that did not make it public domain.

Most of what you hear about patents, public domain, open source from many people pushing open source are all spreading disinformation. Most is not intentional but is wrong info nevertheless.

Such as the idea that anyone can make something from a patent for personal and non-commercial use. Actually, that is false and DOES infringe on the patent holder. However, this is unenforceable and is not a practical law but it still stands, without the patent owner's explicit permission, it is technically illegal to replicate a patent for personal use. At least this is the case in the USA.

So posting stuff open source has to be done with the risk that anyone can take it and go file for a patent. If that happens, there is pretty much no recourse - at least not any recourse that won't cost a fortune to pursue.

Thanks Aaron for clarification, especially - it is technically illegal to replicate a patent for personal use. At least this is the case in the USA For years I was MORE than sure that as long as this is a single a copy for personal (non commercial) use, means that it is replicated to study the invention without monetary gain or purpose of duplicating multiple copies with intention to make a profit and (obviously) not claimed as one's own, there is no case of property theft or other violation of inventor's right and protecting laws. I remember something about making modifications to the original patent but forgot the details.

Vtech

[dR-Green]

This is from the UK patent guidelines

Intellectual Property Office - Keeping your invention confidential

You must not have made your invention public in any way, anywhere in the world, before you apply for a patent for it. Conversations with patent agents, solicitors or our staff are confidential, so will not make your invention public.

Intellectual Property Office - Requirements for patent protection

Your description puts into words the features of your invention and must contain enough information for others to carry out your invention.

Intellectual Property Office - Patents - Description

Also this is good

Military technology and material prejudicial to national security or public
safety

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-securitylist.pdf

[Aaron]

patent thread

I'll post reply in that new patent thread.