Bi-toroid Transformer of Thane C. Heins

[Allen Burgess]

10x flux path.

@geotron,

Did you take note of the pop up at 2:07 in Thane's video? It states that:

"Primary flux path reluctance is about 10 times greater then the alternate secondary route".

Increasing the secondary windings might cause BEMF to seep back to the primary. Thane reports a COP of 377% with his secondaries under load, measured only in practically useless milliwatts. A pretty flimsey gizmo, not really good for too much currently. Getting more power out is the central problem. I think your new high permeability core variant II with the 1/4" to 2.5" flux path ratio might help solve the problem.

"Thane Heins" Ottawa University BiTT TRANSFORMER DEMO July 11, 2009 - YouTube

I concieved of your latest configuration independently, and wholeheartedly approve! There may be an even simpler approach:

Consider the largest size Metglass toroid with a primary winding at 6 O'Clock, and two secondaries at 10 and 2, with holes drilled to each side of the primary measured to the 10 to 1 flux path reluctance ratio.

[Guest]

Ah, yes so it does -



It will be interesting to find how the following type of configuration
performs. Also hopefully still of interest is the toroidal transformer
from the [video] with a magnet-induced decoupling core.

[Allen Burgess]

Nano-crystalline toroid

Magnetec offers an over 20 inch O.D. toroid, 500 mm

MH&W Nanocrystalline Cores

"The new COOL BLUE range completes MAGNETEC’s series of high performance toroids made from the nano-crystalline material NANOPERM. Available are cores up to 500 mm (!) outer diameter and several space saving stadium-shaped (oval) variants".

These toroids are tape wound. It might work better to drill the reluctance holes in through the sides rather then down from the top.

[Allen Burgess]

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[vidbid]

New BiTT Design by Vidbid



Here's a new design that I've come up with. This design uses 2 ferrite rings and 3 ferrite rods.

Yep.




Russian M15BA-300-1k Ferrite Ring 100x50x9 mm ,Lot of 6 | eBay



I suppose if you couldn't find a ferrite rod thick or long enough, you could construct magnetite rods.

Reference: Dr. Peter Lindemann Speaks on Magnetite Core Material - YouTube
Reference: Magnetite Cores - YouTube
Reference: Magnitite Cores 2 - YouTube


Enjoy!

Regards,

Vidbid

[Guest]

These ought to be miniaturized and built into stuff!



[ Composed in Blender ]

[Guest]

[Allen Burgess]

New Bi-Toroid idea.

This attachment was difficult to copy, but it has the essential idea intact. "FreqShift" from the OverUnity Site Bi-Toroid thread has a 3 phase AC line Reactor, coupled with two horseshoe magnets on top and bottem. Pretty cool innovation, may even work!

[arigatou]

No one thinks that the magnetite core and lord C. Hynes Perpetia, generator? In place of steel? By others to copy the work of the project?

[trivolty]

3D BiTT using toroids and rods

Hello,

I'd like to replicate this design as it seems simple and replicable with cheap equipment.

I have bought those toroids from Lithuanian guy recently. The design intended was the joule thief. However, I did quite a work with joule thief and didn't find any OU within the design (except it really drew every last bit of energy from 1.5V cells). That design is only voltage/current transponder capable of "tuning" to the load. So if a LED is attached - it "sets" the voltage for the LED and it works, but for the price of accordingly larger current drawn from the batt.

But, concerning the BiTT:

I'd like to ask what to use to stick the cores together (the "crowfoot in the cage" design) - would conductive glue be enough? I don't think holes/steel screws will work. Thank you.

[gene gene]

In the design by vidbid 2/28/12, if the distance between the secondaries was 10 times less than their distance to the primary, would this not give you the desired 10 to 1 ratio? Flux path.
Gene

[vidbid]

Compression Frame

Hello,

I'd like to replicate this design as it seems simple and replicable with cheap equipment.

I have bought those toroids from Lithuanian guy recently. The design intended was the joule thief. However, I did quite a work with joule thief and didn't find any OU within the design (except it really drew every last bit of energy from 1.5V cells). That design is only voltage/current transponder capable of "tuning" to the load. So if a LED is attached - it "sets" the voltage for the LED and it works, but for the price of accordingly larger current drawn from the batt.

But, concerning the BiTT:

I'd like to ask what to use to stick the cores together (the "crowfoot in the cage" design) - would conductive glue be enough? I don't think holes/steel screws will work. Thank you.

For myself, I wouldn't bother with glue or drilling holes through Ferrite. I would build a compression frame to hold the BiTT together. This how I would put it all together.



Regards,

Vidbid

[trivolty]

Thank you. Now to get my hands on some ferrite rods and some thick plastic boards to start working. I will post results when it's done.

[vidbid]

VRAM V2 (Vidbid Rotary Attraction Motor - Version 2)

Here's a design that I am working on.



It produces mechanical energy, a low voltage output and a high voltage output.

Regards,

Vidbid

[mr.clean]

my replication

hi all, anyone still working on this?
here is what ive come up with.... my holy crap meter went off...

part 1 output on and off dummy secondary load...
39A Don Smith Device Project: Incorporating Heins Bi-Toroid Technology - YouTube

part 2 input and output readings with improved connections
39B Don Smith Device Project: Incorporating Heins Bi-Toroid Technology part 2 - YouTube

btw the ramp up wave form was an added pleasantry only found at 1.22khz

cores made from ferrite toroids scored and snapped in half to facilitate winding the coils fast.
total turns not counted, added and removed turns according to inductance
1.022mH on primary 20 gauge magnet wire, and 6.3mH on each secondary 26 gauge magnet wire