Bi-toroid Transformer of Thane C. Heins

[Berg]

Congratulations, Mr. Clean

Congratulations, Mr. Clean:

It looks like you've done it!



See Video: 39F Don Smith Device Project: BITOROID IN SELF-LOOP, WITH LOAD, NO BATTERY NO CAP - YouTube

Not completely self-oscillating as there is a 9v in PWM, but it is not the source of the power, it needs a battery pulse to go. And what i mean about no cap is that the cap is not directly connected in the "loop", but is connected in the run side of the driver. i dont want to mislead anyone, but this is legit, the meter kept climbing at just the right freq and duty-cycle, the thing is its very hard to re-start, it drove me crazy and i will return to it soon. Depends on unknown variables, i wish i studied it longer before posting, but here you go.

NOTE: In the diagram above, "Amp" is for Ammeter or Amp-meter, according to:
http://www.energeticforum.com/214098-post7797.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post214098

those are ammeters, both reading unmeasurably low, BUT if you actually connect the free wire of cap, the output ammeter dips off the scale Negative, then slowly goes to zero and the cap discharges as usual, but unconnected is where i got the strange results
here is the way the PWM circuit ties to the 2n3055
DIY Homemade Ignition Coil Driver - RMCybernetics

mr.clean, would it perhaps be possible to see a more detailed circuit schematic?


Thane's Patent: CA2594905 (Click to download)

[Berg]

BiTT Equal



I believe this configuration equals the BiTT.

[Allen Burgess]

Flux path ratio.

@Berg,

"Primary flux path reluctance is about 10 times greater then the alternate secondary route".

Your new twin triangle does not show a 10x greater flux path to the primary. Look at the thickness of the H bridge in the drawing of Thane's patent on the left. All the core elements are equal dimension on the twin triangle. Do you see my point? The four legs that angle off L1 should be 10 times thinner then the two legs that connect the L2's.

[Berg]

Berg BiTT

@Berg,

"Primary flux path reluctance is about 10 times greater then the alternate secondary route".

Your new twin triangle does not show a 10x greater flux path to the primary. Look at the thickness of the H bridge in the drawing of Thane's patent on the left. All the core elements are equal dimension on the twin triangle. Do you see my point? The four legs that angle off L1 should be 10 times thinner then the two legs that connect the L2's.

Yeah, Allen,

Good point. Of course, a modification in the design is called for. No doubt about it.

Here's some design I'm working on.



1 input to 8 outputs (or up to 8 outputs)

Here only two outputs are shown.

[Berg]

Thane's Explanation of the BiTT

Nothing is too wonderful to be true. Michael Farady

Here's a video link that is still active at this time.

FREE ENERGY # 35 BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER - 377 % OVER UNITY MOTIONLESS - YouTube

I suggest you download a copy of this video before it's removed.

By the way, here's a video by woopyjump. I suggest watching it to gain more understanding: bitt power factor 2 .wmv - YouTube

[Berg]

Schematic of mr.clean's design

Below is an updated schematic diagram of Kurt's Device.

It is still not clear where the +9V supply rail comes from ...and where the red question marks go to.

Thanks for the schematic, verpies.

Click here to download the schematic.

[ekpod]

Bi-Toroid Variant

It looks very well constructed Berg, Verpies, Mr.Clean. Decoupling the primary core from each secondary core is what the following is designed to accomplish. The air gap will naturally increase reluctance to the primary. The secondary cores must be allowed to interact with much less resistance to the flow of magnetism.

[kEhYo77]

This is what I propose: a configuration based on four 'C' (or 'U') type cores and one 'I' matching type.



Those are not too hard to get nice and square ferrite cores, flat surface, great for configs like this!

[ekpod]

Secondary Field Collapse

[kEhYo77]

@ekpod.

You can do the same with the air gaps in the setup from my picture as well.

Basically, the center part with those air gaps [|] is
Clemente Figueras' configuration, but in his case there are two primaries on the sides and a secondary in the middle. Primaries create magnetic flux unidirectionally and the flux from each side corresponds to the induction of current in the secondary output coil in one direction only. Splitting the cycle in two halves allows the mirror "C" core part to become alternate path for the CEMF flux from the output to take a route through that core (which is not magnetized at the moment of maximum saturation with flux from the other primary). Now, I Get IT!

So we do not need those extra core pieces to achieve that effect!

[ekpod]

The correct Bi-Toroid diagram has been previously established on Page One. It is very clear in fact, and was not followed by Verpies, Berg, or Mr.Clean if the diagram is true.

[mr.clean]

new vid

my numbers could be a bit +or-, but 2.4 watts DC in as shown in last vid...and the 5 watt resistors were getting HOT... whatever that insinuates...

and regardless of it not being rms, the overall measurements will clearly show themselves, and input vs output was always looking good

7.3v max peak across 10 ohms = 5.32watts
23.5v max peak across 100 ohms = 5.52watts
= consistent = accurate

100 ohm loaded secondary
primary reading across 1 ohm input resistor 2.89v

10 ohm loaded secondary
primary reading across 1 ohm input resistor 1.5v
=2.25watts
open unloaded primary 3.5v

i believe those are good numbers, and based on those digital readings being so closely agreeing, and i feel i can still look at it as 12vdc at .2 amps...
....making the 5 watt resistors HOT...

39H Don Smith Device Project:BiToroid Purely Resistive Loads, Examining Input and Output Waveforms - YouTube

and looking closer at the circuit in my posted schematic, the ammeter is directly off the positive from battery/12v source, and you can find the exact circuit i used on
DIY Homemade Ignition Coil Driver - RMCybernetics

and 9v PWM as controler
DIY Homemade Signal Generator with Pulse Width Modulation - RMCybernetics

[ekpod]

[woopy]

Hi all

I wonder if this video is not also relevant in this thread ?

generador Figuera approach 3 - YouTube

Hi Mr Clean

bravo for your work, go on man

good luck at all

Laurentz

[Dave45]

Should be testing before long