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  • Hello Dave,
    Thanks for the scheme you sent. I do not understand exactly how it works and where the output of energy is. Does it use the energy of the magnet?

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    • Originally posted by Alexg800 View Post
      Hello Dave,
      Thanks for the scheme you sent. I do not understand exactly how it works and where the output of energy is. Does it use the energy of the magnet?
      The magnet should stop the bemf by resisting change in the magnetic field, carrying energy on into the capacitors, I havent built this yet still studying, but it should work, Im not asking anyone to build it, just putting some idea's out there.
      Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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      • Hello Dave,
        Meanwhile I tried another BiTT with my Royer generator. This Bitt has 2 ferrite toroidals with permeability 10000 & 2000. The toroidals are overlaped, not connected side by side as in the previous BiTT. I apply the drawing. The result is the same one - there is no OU...
        Sadly. Theoretically it must work, do not understand where my mistake is.
        Regards,
        Alex
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        • Some designs I have been thinking about Dave45_bucket's Library | Photobucket
          Right now Im studying the magnetron and radar tech, very interesting
          The way the resonant cavity is made reminds me of the Hubbard coils, it also reminds me of cymatics.

          Frequencies Sound + Vibration = Secret Geometry - YouTube
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          • Am I understanding this right? Seems some attribute BiTT energy gain not to rerouted BEMF but to ZPE. Keep in mind Heins' measurements were in millivolts. To date, has anyone achieved anything more?

            Here's what Patrick Kelly, author of Practical Guide to FE Devices told me:
            As to where the power gain comes from in the asymmetrical transformers of Thane Heins and Clemente Figuera, I would have to presume that the energy flow is magnetic amplification with power flowing in from the surrounding environment.

            ...and back in 2008 someone on Google Groups wrote:
            The bi-toroid transformer, as pioneered by Thane C Heins, sets up a magnetic flux vortex that is self-sustaining in much the same way that an atom is self-sustaining. The energy source that makes overunity possible in this device is zero-point energy (ZPE).

            By the way, Heins recently posted the following PDi Multiple Bi-Toroid Transformer (BiTT) Prototype Testing for MAGNA International

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            • I would say he is simply redirecting CEMF, so the energy gained is slightly less than what is lost to CEMF and the first law of thermo isn't broken.


              DC.

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              • This is his company's YT channel, some videos about the BITT have been added :

                OTTAWA UNIVERSITY BI TOROID TRANSFORMER vs CONVENTIONAL TRANSFORMER June 2009 - YouTube


                All the best,

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                • Confirmation by JNL Labs

                  DLE-TEST05 : Confirmation of the Thane C. Heins' Effect with the BiTT v1.5

                  Thanks to Jean-Louis Naudin.

                  Cheers

                  PS: Check out Thane's document:

                  How to Make a Bi-Toroid Transformer and Exceed 100 Percent Efficien...
                  Last edited by Berg; 02-28-2013, 06:40 PM.

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                  • Unfortunatley Naudin has a history of making OU statements then retracting them, but in this case i can believe it.

                    Someone better-versed in electronics than myself said he also made a mistake in the measurement process, i will find the post and copy it here.

                    All the best,

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                    • Originally posted by Alexg800 View Post
                      Hello Dave,
                      Meanwhile I tried another BiTT with my Royer generator. This Bitt has 2 ferrite toroidals with permeability 10000 & 2000. The toroidals are overlaped, not connected side by side as in the previous BiTT. I apply the drawing. The result is the same one - there is no OU...
                      Sadly. Theoretically it must work, do not understand where my mistake is.
                      Regards,
                      Alex
                      Alex, have you checked out the previous links to Heins' new YT channel as well as searching YT for other BITT experimenters ?


                      All the best,

                      DC.

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                      • Hello,
                        Please, advice what links you mean. Give me the references, pls

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                        • Alex, the liks are in posts in this thread since you started posting so you only have to scan back a couple of pages to find them.

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                          • How to Make a Bi-Toroid Transformer and Exceed 100 Percent Efficien...
                            How to make a Bi Toroid transformer and exceed 100% efficiency
                            Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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                            • Originally posted by qvision View Post
                              Alex, the liks are in posts in this thread since you started posting so you only have to scan back a couple of pages to find them.
                              Hello,
                              I made & tested the BiTT represented on the photo. The big toroid has 6000 permeability, the little ones 1000. The tested frequencies are 1...20kHz, the loads were symmetric & non-symmetric ones, the primary was in resonance mode & ordinary mode. All the modes did not give any overunity, though there was an extremely high COP when the loads were asymmetrical ones... Where is a mistake? Who knows?
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                              • I have not built a BITT so i have no direct knowledge.

                                Did you look at Dave's post above yours ?


                                All the best,

                                DC.

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