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  • Hi. The best setup to date is here: Measurement of the DC INPUT CURRENT on the BiTT v2.1
    When the load is connected the input current DOES NOT CHANGE!
    You can build this BiTT with 3 "C" ferrite cores.
    Then make LC tank on the primary and drive it at resonance.
    Good luck
    “ THE PERSON WHO SAYS IT CANNOT BE DONE SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT THE PERSON DOING IT ! ”

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    • Missing meter

      Add one more meter, between the wall outlet and the power-supply. Measure before and after the time event.

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      • OU circuit

        Originally posted by mr.clean View Post
        hi all, been busy but i wanted to try the JLNaudin MEG circuit on the Bitoroid, pretty good, so im gonna do some more experiments soon...

        BiToroid Resonant Driver: MEG Circuit - YouTube
        Hey Clean

        That is OU. I know you didn't want to say it but all of the bi-toroids are known for more out. That is besides the point because you are doing more than toggling circuits.

        You are inspiring 1000's to do some of this testing great works. If I keep watching you I will get my bearings one day and do some of these experiments.

        Mike

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        • hello to all, i made little experiment with bi toroid transformer, and results confirmed declared characteristics and specifications referred on the patent

          schematic:


          physical realisation:


          and oscilloscope waveforms, red waveform is current and green waveform is voltage

          waveforms in the resonant circuit with load in the secondary coil


          waveforms in the resonant circuit without load in the secondary coil


          waveform in the secondary coil with load


          and waveforms in the resonant circuit with short circuit in the secondary coil


          and results of the measurements in the idle mode = 3.60V./0.53A., with load in the output coil= 3.70V./0.53A., and in the short circuit mode in the secondary coil = 3.09V/0.55A. Solely now my scheme is not a perfect because reactive power in the resonant circuit was minimal (something in the scheme impede the preparation of normal reactive power even at idle), i no hurry, a matter of time just while fix the problem
          because the frequency is of the order of 70-80KHz, soundcard oscilloscope at the smallest possible range, shows the triangular waveforms of current and voltage dephased of the about 90 degrees, at change of the range is observed following picture, sinusoidal waveforms are expanded and narrow the, like mech an accordion, and the waves are again at 90 degrees.

          source: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
          Форум Ñтранников :: Тема: Би-тороидальный транÑформатор Thane C. Heins (2/2)
          ЕкÑперименти на x_name41

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          • ordinary transformers

            Hi x, There is something here , you can use regular transformers , but they have to match.
            Two run in series , as long as they match, will give extra out.
            Still trying different set-ups'.
            artv

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            • this is from patent: Reactive power input =33,5VA, Active power out =25,3W, power consumption from grid =1,16W
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              • AuroraTek

                You guys may glean a few details from this video--skip in a ways to see the details.

                AuroraTek Demonstrates Overunity Transformer at TeslaTech 2014 - YouTube

                It's still a bit of toy, but I think the concepts may head in the right direction.

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                • Hi X_name41

                  The sound card oscilloscope can be useful for showing phase angle.
                  But I see that you are measuring the current with a toroid wound coil.
                  This measuring method will give you inaccurate phase shift as the coil on toroid has its own phase shift that you have to add. Try using a noninductive 0.1 Ohm resistor instead.
                  “ THE PERSON WHO SAYS IT CANNOT BE DONE SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT THE PERSON DOING IT ! ”

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                  • Thane video

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0GwiIUE5c

                    In the video 5 PHD's went back to their companies asking if these power companies could use this tech, all lot their jobs.

                    Now how stupid can people be that they are so smart to get a PHD and they don't know how this world is run? Well they are not stupid, poor choice of words, they have been dumbed down in many areas of life but their math and English is good

                    I called these power company people talking to them about CO-generation using wind energy tech and these guys are mob members in these high offices.

                    They are at their post making sure nothing changes.

                    We all on our own.

                    Mikey

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                    • Originally posted by Dog-One View Post
                      You guys may glean a few details from this video--skip in a ways to see the details.

                      AuroraTek Demonstrates Overunity Transformer at TeslaTech 2014 - YouTube

                      It's still a bit of toy, but I think the concepts may head in the right direction.
                      Don't want to derail things, but thought I'd add these notes from the above presentation by Bill Alek to the mix. You can take them for what they're worth:

                      "The general geometry of this transformer is very different than a traditional transformer, because what we have is a primary coil wrapped around two cores. And really, we have that same type of architecture in a standard transformer...'cause what you do in a standard transformer is that you have the material going down the centre of this coil. So really, you're splitting the flux two ways, and that's what we're doing here - splitting the input flux two ways."

                      "The difference is that we have these two output coils that are wired in such a way that it has a bifilar configuration. ... where the output sets up opposing magnetic forces into this [secondary core] material... There's two configurations available [for the secondary]... You can wire the output in series or in parallel; in this case they're wired in series... the ratio ...is about 20 turns here [primary] and 120 turns for each secondary. So we're actually stepping up the voltage. ... They're just single wound [secondary] coils set up in an opposing configuration."

                      "And what that does to the behaviouur of these coils is that they lower the natural impedance on these cores, driving it overunity, where normally, you wouldn't see that on an output coil here. ...You'd see a fixed output impedance on the secondary here. But when this operates, the behavior is quite different because we have this cancellation going on, lowering the impedance on this [secondary] coils."

                      In response to a question about the opposing wound secondary coils, he calls this " a key feature with building overunity devices, because we're lowering the impedance on these coils. ... There's something going on; another force involved."

                      Some notes:
                      - running the transformer at 3200 cycles per second for best performance
                      - input side highly reactive compared to regular transformers.
                      - shorting the output coils shifts the phase angle to 102 deg

                      More quotes:
                      "We're dealing with some sort of source that's all around us here, some sort of a negative energy and that's what's pushing this wave form beyond 90 degrees. there's another force at play here; this other force acts like a negative electromagnetic force; that's what's acting on the current, pushing it beyond 90 degrees."

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                      • Another variation...

                        Here's another variation to the Heins' theme, but I think the concept is still similar. It is a device shown by Don Smith--a C-core where each leg is wrapped, but unlike a typical transformer, these two legs become secondaries and the primary a winding around the entire core.

                        So if we think "flux path" here: The primary induces a flux in the entire C-Core as though it were simply a rod core. Then the secondaries oppose each other electrically and setup a resonance similar to a tuning fork. Since they are directly connected via the core, they really cannot push back on the primary winding at all--similar to the BiTT. Now if we throw in the SERPS concept and place a load between the two resonating secondaries...

                        We might just have something here.

                        Yes, no, maybe so?


                        I'm planning on building this device using a large 3000 watt power C-Core. What I don't know and will have to find out experimentally is whether I can run AC power into the primary, or use pulsed DC. I have a hunch pulsed DC may actually have the potential to make the core ring like a bell--letting its natural frequency drive the output.
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                        • A real Man

                          Originally posted by Dog-One View Post
                          You guys may glean a few details from this video--skip in a ways to see the details.

                          AuroraTek Demonstrates Overunity Transformer at TeslaTech 2014 - YouTube

                          It's still a bit of toy, but I think the concepts may head in the right direction.
                          It is so great to hear someone talk in a simple way. Talks to people like he knows they are just as capable of taking measurements as 9th graders do.

                          Phase shift past 90 degrees hold it.

















                          Mike
                          Last edited by BroMikey; 08-25-2014, 08:47 AM.

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                          • Ppcm

                            Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

                            I hadn't even seen that picture Mike--fits exactly with my idea I posted above.

                            Time to get winding...
                            Last edited by Dog-One; 08-26-2014, 01:30 AM. Reason: Typo

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                            • Pumped Phase Conjugate mirror

                              Here is a bite more to eat on this very well known subject. Light and energy experimentation along with gravity.

                              Floyd Sweet: Space Quanta Magnifier / Vacuum Triode Amplifier ~ Collected papers, diagrams, photos & videos








                              Sparky OR Sweet used Barium ferrite and he wrote this.

                              Mike
                              Last edited by BroMikey; 08-26-2014, 05:44 PM.

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                              • Beardon About Sweet Inventor

                                Here is an excellent writing about how the EE department of higher learning in the USA and around the world fall far short of the understanding of any real inventor who follows the experiment and not just the money for fear of losing his job.

                                Mike


                                Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:54:04 -0600



                                Dear Steve,



                                As far as I am aware, Sweet never filed a patent (the work, I think, was also a take-off or derivative of Gabriel Kron's negative resistor, built at Stanford University on a GE contract in the late 1930s). Sweet later worked for GE, and Kron was his mentor and patron. Kron's real work was held and never released, although I cite some quotations from Kron's papers to show he tried to get through the censors the gist of what he had done, including the "open path" between any two points in a circuit, whether there is any physical connection or not. Again, Kron never fully revealed the secret of his open path. I take a crack at it in my forthcoming book, but it's my "best estimate". So I don't think the Sweet VTA was independently patentable, though I may be wrong on that.



                                For the actual status, one would have to consult a good attorney. Sweet signed several conflicting agreements with different backers, none of which were ever "cleaned up". So in my view it's an area to be avoided, because it's a legal nightmare. Who needs such at my age? One can take the energy from the vacuum in a hundred ways, not just one. Sweet's way was indeed a very good way. There are also a hundred other good ways.



                                So it's a matter of the patent law on how an inventor must pursue his invention, and all that, and the interpretations of the various rulings that have been made over the years. Only an attorney can advise on all that. Sweet also was married, and so he left a widow. Depending on wills, state laws, and such, what results for the patent rights is again a matter for lawyers to determine. Even the lawyers may disagree.



                                The Sweet device has been partially replicated by at least four experimenters. Each succeeded in activating the magnets into self-oscillation, and in getting power out more than the input. Today, self-oscillation in magnetic materials is well-known in thin film work, but to my knowledge they do not do it at ELF frequencies as Sweet did, nor do they do it nearly so powerfully as he did. But the self-oscillation itself is known, and you can even purchase books on it. A typical example is V. S. L'vov, Wave Turbulence Under Parametric Excitation: Applications to Magnets, Springer Series in Nonlinear Dynamics, Springer-Verlag, New York, 1994. This includes self-oscillation in permanent magnets. Professor L'vov is or was with the Department of Physics, Weizmann Institute of Science, Israel.



                                One part of the problem is that the magnets have to be (1) barium ferrite, and (2) specially conditioned so that the barium nucleus is in self-oscillation with the adjacent vacuum, which acts as a semiconductor. A paper showing that the vacuum can indeed act as a semiconductor in certain case is Richard E. Prange and Peter Strance, "The Semiconducting Vacuum," American Journal of Physics, 52(1), Jan. 1984, p. 19-21. The authors show that the vacuum may be regarded as a semiconductor. In particular, the vacuum in the region close to the nucleus of a superheavy element is analogous to the inversion layer in a field effect transistor. The authors introduce the idea of the inverted vacuum. Just as a semiconductor may be manipulated by subjecting it to external fields, doping etc., it appears that so can be the vacuum. It appears that Sweet used this effect and special triggering techniques to stimulate the barium nuclei into very powerful self-oscillation with the surrounding vacuum.



                                These days, ELF oscillation in nuclei is also known.



                                So the major problem is to get a strong, stable self-oscillation established in the magnets themselves, before building the unit. Once that is done, the Sweet unit can be replicated. His first unit produced only 6 watts, but his second unit produced 500 watts output for a 10 Volt, 33 milliampere input. So that's a COP (if I didn't drop a decimal somewhere!) of about 1,500,000.



                                None of the inventors I know of who replicated it, ever achieved such a COP. To my knowledge, the longest they achieved the activation was about 6 weeks. At least one did light a 100-watt bulb or so, but the output decayed. Often the activation (by the others) would last only a minute or two, then a few minutes as they got better at it, etc.



                                And in my view, yes, the unit could be replicated and developed, but only by a very competent team having several disciplines.



                                Remember there are more than 200 known effects in magnetics, and only about half of them are well-understood. The rest are understood from "fairly well" to "somewhat" to "not at all". The "very strong type of self-oscillation" that Sweet achieved is, in my opinion, among the "understood a little bit" category. The typical electrical engineer who thinks of magnets only in terms of north and south poles, etc. is doomed to failure. Magnetism is very much more complicated than that; simply check any modern university text in materials science or in the magnetics phenomena of materials science. Another thing is that Sweet carefully chose his magnets from many surplus ones. Only about one in 30 has sufficiently uniform field from point to adjacent point, to hold the self-oscillation. That's a matter of manufacture, and in theory that could be licked. But finding magnets made to a 10% local variation or less is difficult, with what is available off the shelf.



                                So when one looks at the duplication effort, it would be quite costly (from the individual viewpoint). It will require an experienced materials science team, with specialists in a couple different branches of magnetics. Such folks exist, but not a great number of them.



                                Anyway, for me that was just experiences along the way. These days I'm totally committed to our own MEG, and so am concentrating on that.



                                Best wishes,



                                Tom Bearden

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