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    Hello Just keeping on top of PESN and reading about the newest post:

    The Quantum Resonant Gyrator Embodies Simple Tesla Technology

    What is the general consensus of the community on this circuit? Similar to what is already being done here, or worth replicating and testing? In concept it sounds promising.

    Cheers

  • #2
    Very interesting

    It looks like the leds are set up as bridge rectifiers. Are they an essential part of the circuit ? A lot of members will probably replicate and experiment with this one.

    George

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    • #3
      Leds

      After watching the video I guess my previous question was answered. However,
      the video reminded me of something that has had me baffled for some time now.
      Why when you shut off a 110 AC led bulb does it stay dimly lit. This has been
      my experience with a 3.5 watt one and even more so with a 2.5 watt bulb from
      Wal Mart. The same thing also happens with led Christmas lights hooked up to 12
      volts DC. It would seem that the nature of leds somehow allow them to work with
      only one wire, or something else is going on. Maybe the leds are some how retaining
      some of the energy after being shut off. Can anyone explain this ?

      George
      Last edited by FRC; 01-20-2012, 02:30 PM. Reason: spacing

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      • #4
        Nearly all LED's run on just a couple volts DC - typical being around 3 to 5 volts. So if it's plugged into AC wall power you have to have a circuit to step down the voltage and current otherwise you'd blow the LEDs up. It's most likely just a capacitor in that circuit that retains power for a short time after you pull the plug.
        There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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        • #5
          I agree

          I am thinking I will build this circuit since it is an easy one, as I would like to put a scope on it to try and see what is going on.

          I sometimes wonder if the Tesla single wire circuit is only a circuit that switches so fast that for a fraction of a second there is a potential difference created between anode and cathode.

          Also to answer why the power draw was so minimal at such small quantities one has to be careful to use appropriate instruments that are acurate at the scale required... I am not sure my meters have the resolution for the job unless it is scaled up to run say 100 LED's.

          Regardless it is nice to see that a circuit is posted lending to its credibility

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          • #6
            quantum resonant gyrator

            very interesting circuit apparently uses very little power at 45volts, a joule thief puts out about the same b emf voltage .wondering if it can run this circuit with the same results but just using 1.5v aa battery to run a joule thief with this cool new circuit as the output, seems easy to build one to try it out being out of the loop for a few months this will be my first build in a while

            cheers ztec2002

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            • #7
              Just for info, while looking up a gyrator found this doc on the web. What's really interesting in the doc is on page 14, fig 12. Once you've seen the pic, look @ the PJK book or the Utkin paper and reference Mislavskij. Mislavskij's transformer and the gyrator are essentially the same thing.
              Attached Files

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              • #8
                Ok I see a HF oscillator and a string of LED's arranged to work in single wire
                mode. I see nothing special. Single wire lighting of LED's is old hat and it can be
                done with a regular HF transformer. The antenna is just a clip lead which is
                performing the function of a capacitance.

                While it is neat and cool it's just a few LED's and a HF oscillator.

                This below is completely wireless, it's nothing special either just an LED and some wires
                and a some pieces of aluminium.

                Remote source experiment.wmv - YouTube
                and this is just a coil of wire, I uploaded this one for a joke.

                Free Energy Coils In Action.wmv - YouTube

                I think calling it a quantum resonant gyrator is a bit over the top.

                Each to their own I guess.

                Cheers

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                • #9
                  thanks phoneboy

                  this pdf rocks. the kind of stuff i was going to start looking for,but you already gave me the start. thanks phone boy

                  cheers ztec2002

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                  • #10
                    I have to agree with Farmhand. I have lit led bulbs and cfl bulbs without even
                    touching any contacts with an HV source. In this instance the HV source came from a computer scanner and was running it on 12v DC. I do hope that this
                    circuit is more than that.

                    George
                    Last edited by FRC; 01-21-2012, 02:48 AM. Reason: spelling

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                    • #11
                      hi frc

                      can you show me some of what you are talking about,have not build anything in months , time to start building again to get back up to speed.

                      thanks

                      cheers ztec2002

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                      • #12
                        Well put Farmhand and FRC, I was hoping someone with experience in this would post. So the circuit sends a charging pulse in one direction to the capacitor or antenna as its refered to and then the capacitor discharges the opposite way before the next pulse comes in.

                        One would think there would be a limit to the number of LED's you could run then as the test lead wouldnt provide very much capacitance.

                        I might still build it because it is so easy, and at least it might be a neat party trick to win a "one wire circuit" bet with my fellow electricians at work

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                        • #13
                          ztec2002

                          Originally posted by ztec2002 View Post
                          can you show me some of what you are talking about,have not build anything in months , time to start building again to get back up to speed.

                          thanks

                          cheers ztec2002
                          Sorry I managed to short out and wreck both circuits that I had. It only worked
                          with one of them. I do have two more scanners that I will take apart and try
                          again. I don't know when. Right now I am dealing with a flooded out basement
                          and all the related damages. So could be quita awhile before I get to it.

                          George

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                          • #14
                            hey everyone, I shot the video in the PESwiki article...

                            this is a follow up video
                            Quantum Resonant Gyrator: Scalar Physics made easy! - YouTube

                            most comments are about RF. That's what you'd think when you look at it first time. We've been playing with it for a while and it doesn't look like radio to us. That's why we included the circuit for everybody to build.

                            Please have a look at the 8 reasons for why it's not RF in the video description.

                            I'd love to hear your thoughts on it!
                            Last edited by samertje; 01-22-2012, 08:10 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Ok here's my thoughts on it:

                              8 Reasons why this is not RF:
                              1. The signals on both sides are locked (audio over one wire tested)

                              And why does this make you think it is not RF?

                              2. Wireless transmission shows 'radiant' properties

                              What 'radiant' properties?

                              3. Same power after long wire

                              RF travels just fine over wires. Thats how the signal of a transmitter gets to the antenna.

                              4. Via water after a distance (weak)

                              Yes RF can travel in water too although it is weakened quickly.

                              5. Wireless after distance (weak)

                              It is only weak because you have no tuned circuits on either end. You are transmitting a broadband RF noise signal.

                              6. JAMS all (short wave) frequencies!!

                              Of course it does. That's what broadband RF noise does.

                              7. Transistor is not hot.

                              And why do you think that means anything except you are not pushing a lot of current through the transistor?

                              8. SUPER MODE: LEDs shine brighter after one wire, than LEDs in series with the batteries!

                              Yes RF can play lots of neat tricks with solid state devices.


                              I am not trying to give you a hard time but you are making claims that just don't hold up to close examination. You have a neat little circuit there but it is probably playing havoc with your neighbors TV's and radios. Please try to learn a little more about RF circuits before making claims that something is not RF.

                              Carroll
                              Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them your enemy. We can disagree without attacking someone.

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