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[sleigher]

Hi All

I am a new forum member. I see all of you discussing something I have been reading about and researching for some time now.

I have watched countless videos, read web sites, papers, patents and so on...

I do have a few questions though. This is in regards to the Bedini circuit.

I think I have a grasp on the function of the circuit and I am not sure I agree with some who call this overunity. It's using electricity that exists and is filtered out in many electronics today. But that's another discussion.

I am writing because I am curious about the specific components. I see that specific transistors and diodes are used. What if any research has gone into those specific parts. Can anyone enlighten me to any reason why those transistors seem to help this function as opposed to any transistor?

Also, I cannot find specifics about spacing between the magnet and the coil on say the 10 coil kit. I do see people say the spacing is important, and the type and strength of magnet is important but cannot seem to find more info than that.

Is there any?

I am just a curious tester/hacker guy. I love the idea and simplicity of it. Thank you Tesla!

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[realmikel]

Spacing has to do with the idea that the machine is triggered by the magnets as well as using them for propulsion. That said timing the dual use of triggering and propulsion in connected circuits involves close tolerances in internal capacitance and resistance of the solid state devices for best performance or no performance at all. Your question on ou involves a lack of understanding that there are many forms of energy on the wires and you only measure one of them.

[sleigher]

Actually I didn't have a question about OU. I did have questions about the specific parts used in these SSG circuits and what not.

Does anyone have any insight about why those parts are specific to the success of the design?

I am considering going down the path of learning about this and trying some small tests. Maybe the fan test.

I really just want to understand all I can before I do that.

[Slider2732]

Welcome aboard
Sometimes the words used can seem 'off' to some people, anything like "What if any research has gone into those specific parts"
Not to say kiss up to all, but people do get labeled pretty quickly and with reason, because of the potential differences to the status quo from working devices.

I'll help out, though only have a couple of months experience with Bedini circuits specifically. Otherwise, about a year or so with other magnet motors and then from 2008 with R/C related CD-Rom drive based motors and their internals.

The distance is key for a few reasons. Much of anything to do with magnet motors is a Goldlocks principle...too near nothing, too far nothing, inbetween and there ya go.
Placing a coil too near to a magnet will induce a lot of drag. The core inside the coil will pull on the passing magnets and at best the system will run slower than optimum, at worst the whole thing will rattle and shake. If running just 1 coil, then the shaking and probable early failure of the bearings will be heightened.
If placed too far away, you may not even trigger the circuit into running.
The principle, as I understand it, is that a positive pulse is induced into the smaller winding. The other end of that coil connects to the negative supply of the battery. That positive pulse switches the transistor, via a small resistor (or ear of wheat bulb). The transistor now switched, then pulses the main drive coil and around we go.
As far as the diodes, they need to be able to handle the power going through them and be quick enough to not miss spikes. 1N4007 is a good one and plentiful.
I was forever stuck on such a simple to build circuit...wondering how on earth the transistor was able to switch. Best bet is to simply build and experiment.

Which transistor to use is not so much about current output ability. Pretty much any NPN power transistor with 2A and above output, will, inherently have voltage handling figures of 80V and above. The switching speed can be disregarded in terms of sheer speed, 4MHz is plenty for our wheels.
In the case of transistors that come from say a flyback on an old CRT PC monitor, you may find 1500V ratings. Those type don't need the neon across the Collector and Emitter. The popular TIP3055 is popular probably due to Radio Shack carrying them and that they only cost $1.89 a piece. Otherwise, it's really quite lowly in abilities. Better, I believe to head for the MJL21194 or something like the flyback ones. I've built a few wheels now and the only power transistors not to work well are Darlington types (D1414 was one recently). MOSFET's sort of work, but any power transistor will easily kick it into touch for ease of operation and to get a circuit to 'just work'.
To get a feel of what and how and why, salvaging is the least expensive method - a Freecycle advert for an old monitor will produce all the components required except the magnets, including the coil wire from the CRT neck
The magnets, depending on size of first wheel, can be salvaged from computer HDD's. For tiny wheels, you can use the little neo's found inside the laser assembly of CD-Rom drives (2 in each). Neo's from hard drives can be carefully cracked with sharp pliers to bring about useful dimensions.

It's not overunity. Arguably, overunity doesn't exist. What it does, is allow charging that will recondition a battery, rejuvenate an ailing one, bring about longer life from especially lead acids. The longer term usefulness of any battery is where positive effects from this sort of circuit are shown.

[sleigher]

Thank you so much for your response. It was very enlightening and I appreciate you taking the time to write that. It was just about exactly what I was looking for.

I experiment with lots of different things and not just electronics. Computer security, smart cards, hydrogen generation to name a few. I got curious about all of this and have seen some rather remarkable things so I started reading more and more. Before I head off in any one direction I just like to really understand what it is I am dealing with. But everything you said makes perfect sense. So thank you very much.

Once I do a little testing/hacking I will post what I find.

[Slider2732]

A pleasure
The first time I built one of these and it spun up to actually run, was an amazing personal moment. It means nothing to many, just a motor eh that does stuff with batteries.
But...building something like the SSG with junk parts or at any rate building one yourself, gives a satisfaction beyond sensible reasoning lol
A coil on its own, sat next to a rotor and it actually spins that rotor around, without any sensors or reed switches or brushes or other gubbins. It's very cool, just to stare at and watch it spin.