My Motors got me to Tap into Radiant Energy

[Ufopolitics]

That is a good motor, Thug

Hi UFO,

I havn't had a chance to really sit down with the circuit, I have been scrounging for a motor, and I found an old drill. So I'm curious, before I start to hack, is this brushed motor ok. It's a universal I thought, but I would like to hear your opinion and any additional information you care to share.

One thing I quickly did, was to input, to the slightly larger outer coil, then use the smaller inner wire with slightly less turns as well, as secondary. The coils were not physically connected to each other. I connected neons across both coils ( cold side of diodes on each coil), and neons lit brightly. Adding an iron core decreased output. Also, when I connected 21v input it was very intense, as in cook the neon buy itself across primary cold side.
I'm curious, I was using 1 nf cap in timing circuit, I thought would go from 1 to 60 khz but there was output through the whole range of frequencies, so I couldn't start slow, I mean I will try larger caps but I was just curious if that sounded right. Also, as off time was increased, definitely there was increase in intensity of output.

Thug

Hey Thug,

Yes, that is a great motor to test here...brushed motors will show you there are barely sparks at commutator, and it will run cold.

Now related to what you did there...
I am not quite sure if the secondary you are talking about is Internally set-related to Primary- , since you wrote :

...then use the smaller inner wire with slightly less turns as well, as secondary. The coils were not physically connected to each other. ..

If it is Internally set, then when you put the steel bar inside of it...That DOES decrease the output.
The thing is by doing that you are decreasing the Hot Induction, therefore minimizing the general output..you unbalanced inductions there.
Both Inductions should be balanced, meaning an inner bar without some external (to primary) steel frame, will decrease output.

Now ,you do should be able to regulate the Pot slowly...that is a problem.
Do you have a 250K Pot plus the two 1K at each sides of Pot?

Definitively you have it right when decreasing T-Off it does increase output.

Could you supply some pic's and diagrams of your set-up?

Thanks

Ufopolitics

[thugugly]

ufo,

I was hoping that would be a good motor, i think i have an old dc drill as well, thanks.


The coil,sorry, that was just the inital coil i had 400 turns of 22 ga., then i wound the 18-20 ga over it. i was going use the outer coil for secondary and connect as bifilar (with + secondary, to - primary, then the output to the motor, as you posted earlier in thread).

I just wanted to try getting cold side to light on each coil before i hooked together as bifilar, which did lite the bulbs on both coils, and with 21 v was very intense.

there just did not seem to be a range with the 1 nf where it did not light the bulbs, thats all.

since radiant flows toward center the inner coil wound seem better as secondary, so i tried it and it lit well.

i was just fooling around, mainly i was trying to get a motor and now i have one, so i will start working on that and experimenting.

i will try it as inductance only hooked across secondary, and with the coils connectd as a bifilar.

Also can't wait to see your next video, you mentioned anti-gravity, can't wait.

thank you for your help,

thug

[thugugly]

If it is Internally set, then when you put the steel bar inside of it...That DOES decrease the output.
The thing is by doing that you are decreasing the Hot Induction, therefore minimizing the general output..you unbalanced inductions there.
Both Inductions should be balanced, meaning an inner bar without some external (to primary) steel frame, will decrease output.

I was only using internal cores, no external frame.
I thought it was supposed to be just as long as coil.
once i get motor mounted on something i will try different cores and setups.

thug

[Mad Scientist]

In reading over this thread it appears that variable frequency with a variable pulse width is required. The 555 is a neat little chip and has many uses and it can do this, but it rather awkward to vary pulse width and frequency independent of each other.

The following is a simple circuit that will allow frequency to be changed and yet have the percentage of ON time of the pulse width to remain the same, and varying the pulse width will have no effect on the frequency.



Circuit operation:
IC1 is a ½ of a voltage comparator wired as a conventional square wave oscillator, its frequency is controlled by C1 and VR2 these values can be changed to suit the frequency range you want.
However its square wave output is not what were interested in but rather the sawtooth voltage that is produced by the timing capacitor C1. This voltage is then feed down to one of the inputs of the other half of the IC1. Its other input connected to a voltage divider pot VR1.

By varying this voltage you choose what portion of the sawtooth that will used to turn ON the output of the IC. This gives complete control over the pulse width from 0 - 100%.

[citfta]

Thanks

That is a very neat and simple circuit. Thanks!!

Carroll

[Ufopolitics]

In reading over this thread it appears that variable frequency with a variable pulse width is required. The 555 is a neat little chip and has many uses and it can do this, but it rather awkward to vary pulse width and frequency independent of each other.

The following is a simple circuit that will allow frequency to be changed and yet have the percentage of ON time of the pulse width to remain the same, and varying the pulse width will have no effect on the frequency.



Circuit operation:
IC1 is a ½ of a voltage comparator wired as a conventional square wave oscillator, its frequency is controlled by C1 and VR2 these values can be changed to suit the frequency range you want.
However its square wave output is not what were interested in but rather the sawtooth voltage that is produced by the timing capacitor C1. This voltage is then feed down to one of the inputs of the other half of the IC1. Its other input connected to a voltage divider pot VR1.

By varying this voltage you choose what portion of the sawtooth that will used to turn ON the output of the IC. This gives complete control over the pulse width from 0 - 100%.

Thanks very much Mad Scientist!!

Excellent and simple circuit!!

[boguslaw]

Mad Scientist

Very neat circuit , thank you ! Please forgive my question but what is the shape of output square wave ? Is that sharp with abrupt fall/rise edges or the time response of this circuit is too slow to create good square wave output ?
I have no deep experience with electronics but 1.4uS response time for this comparator chip took my attention. I think we are looking for the most simple circuit for everybody to replicate yet with excellent results with production of radiant energy.

[Netica]

Hi Ufo,

I have been trying some different brushed motors and I have been getting them to run, some better than others, they tune differently. I tried adding capacitors after the diodes as thugugly has mentioned and with all motors adding capacitors make them run much better.

I don't believe I am getting the radiant energy in properly, the energy comes in on the T- Off but motors still run warm, and I can't get the radiant energy increase when decreasing the on time and increasing the off time in each cycle.

I may now add a secondary coil wired as you have described to see what differences it makes.

netica

[Ufopolitics]

Antigravity Effects Of Radiant Energy

DEFINING RE FIELD (Part II) ANTIGRAVITY - YouTube

[Ufopolitics]

Your Diodes may be the problem...

Hi Ufo,

I have been trying some different brushed motors and I have been getting them to run, some better than others, they tune differently. I tried adding capacitors after the diodes as thugugly has mentioned and with all motors adding capacitors make them run much better.

I don't believe I am getting the radiant energy in properly, the energy comes in on the T- Off but motors still run warm, and I can't get the radiant energy increase when decreasing the on time and increasing the off time in each cycle.

I may now add a secondary coil wired as you have described to see what differences it makes.

netica

Hello Netica,

Yes they do "tune" different, like there is a "spaced delay" in response...right?
Well, of course the Caps after diodes will create a "more realistic-direct effect", since the Capacitors will be 'filling in' those empty spaces-of the time-on's...

.."I don't believe I am getting the radiant energy in properly, the energy comes in on the T- Off but motors still run warm, and I can't get the radiant energy increase when decreasing the on time and increasing the off time in each cycle..."

This problem could be related to the type of Rectifiers You are using...They are not "Filtering" a high percentage of Pure Radiant...(They never do in the Primary at full 100%, at least, I have not found the perfect-ideal rectifier filter so far..But the ones I recommend [UF505/NTE576] Do a great job...)
Meaning, You are getting also too much Hot there...that creates the Heat...and the Odd to RE effects you are getting.
Your "Cold Side" should be mainly based on the Off-Time Pulses...and very reduced On-Times...If You get too much Hot...then T-Off's will be much lower.
Give a try to the IN4148/Radio-Shack 1N914 Crystal Diodes...they do filter so good your meters will not read at all, (I had post that fact here in previous posts) However, they are not good standing Too High Currents...So, ...do NOT accelerate like you like to do...

The other thing you could do, is to add the 1N4148 after your diodes, as a second filter to do the Final Clean up from Hot...I have done that with great results. Meters will read crazy though...

Cheers

Ufopolitics

[Mad Scientist]

Mad Scientist

Very neat circuit , thank you ! Please forgive my question but what is the shape of output square wave ? Is that sharp with abrupt fall/rise edges or the time response of this circuit is too slow to create good square wave output ?
.

On my cheapie 20 meg scope they look pretty good.

[Ufopolitics]

Steel Bar...correction

I was only using internal cores, no external frame.
I thought it was supposed to be just as long as coil.
once i get motor mounted on something i will try different cores and setups.

thug

Hello Thug,

I said "Internally" secondaries, meaning inside the plastic core of primary...that is when everything changes, and if you get a steel bar there it will decrease that Inner Secondary Output...that was what I was referring to.

Now, If you are talking about just winding one coil on top of another, divided by tape...then, applies a steel bar the size of the core length ...that will be enough, and should not decrease the output...If it does, then a possible cause is that bar needs to be closer to the walls (too big of an air gap)...but it could be others...like the material being too "Magnetic Memorized"...or already magnetically oriented...against Radiant direction...(try turning it)

The thing is...Radiant also need Hot Induction to Thrive...when we have just one coil on top of the other, separated by tape or else...Induction of Both Currents will be "Directly Sharing" the steel bar...
This changes once you get an Inner Secondary of several turns of finest wire (I have used 33 awg 4000-8000T)turned in a separate thinner plastic-fiberglass core inside the primary core...This set Up..I have not finished the video yet, but it is coming...right now it will complicate things...sorry for my confusion...and bring it now.

The "Perfect Steel Bar" for all related applications here, must NOT have Magnetic Memory (remember this core is constantly changing magnetic polarities, it will stress the steel molecules)..I heated mines to flare orange and sink it in cold water...that took care of overheating problems, magnetizing and performance...

Cheers

Ufopolitics

[boguslaw]

On my cheapie 20 meg scope they look pretty good.

Thank you ! Do you have similar circuit but for two outputs working like flip-flop with single adjustable duty cycle (width) or fixed 50% ? I have one made with 556 dual oscillator but only for 50Hz and without possible regulation of duty cycle (it's kind of hard task to match capacitor and resistor to obtain perfect 50% for required frequency not mention that variable frequency is impossible that way.
Flexible oscillator and flip-flop oscillator is a MUST for US.

[Ufopolitics]

LM393 Dual Voltage Comparator...

In reading over this thread it appears that variable frequency with a variable pulse width is required. The 555 is a neat little chip and has many uses and it can do this, but it rather awkward to vary pulse width and frequency independent of each other.

The following is a simple circuit that will allow frequency to be changed and yet have the percentage of ON time of the pulse width to remain the same, and varying the pulse width will have no effect on the frequency.



Circuit operation:
IC1 is a ½ of a voltage comparator wired as a conventional square wave oscillator, its frequency is controlled by C1 and VR2 these values can be changed to suit the frequency range you want.
However its square wave output is not what were interested in but rather the sawtooth voltage that is produced by the timing capacitor C1. This voltage is then feed down to one of the inputs of the other half of the IC1. Its other input connected to a voltage divider pot VR1.

By varying this voltage you choose what portion of the sawtooth that will used to turn ON the output of the IC. This gives complete control over the pulse width from 0 - 100%.

Hello Mad Scientist,

This IC (LM393) a dual voltage comparator, has also been cited here in post #213-214 by member kapierenundkopieren, and Me, but working together with a 555 IC...
In Your circuit , which looks lot simpler than previews one, LM393 plays as an oscillator, without the need of 555...that's great!!
However, we are looking here ,to be able to (as we turn on volume) to decrease T-On and increase T-Off (Duty Cycle starting at 50-50% [T1-T2], going towards 40-60, 20-80 and so on, considering T1 as T-On and T2 as T-Off...
And I see we can do that in your circuit, that's also great.
However, We also need to be able to pulse both ends simultaneously, positive and negative drains, by means of Dual Channels of P and N Channels MOSFET's (I have done it with two 555.. working one as oscillator, regulated by the pot, and the second IC555, being just an "Inverted Image" in Anti-Phase of IC555(1), so, this creates a simultaneous, High-Low signal to P and N Channels... However in my circuit I can not regulate Duty Cycle...I have to arrange that...

I know we are getting close to obtain a great SPECIFIC oscillator for this purposes...which differ from typical oscillators in a complete turn of 180 degrees...
I see this chip (LM393) as a great subject for this new type of oscillator.

The last and wonderful thing we need to do is to ISOLATE the low voltage signals from Oscillator to Gates, from the Source-Drain Higher Voltage that also needs to be regulated to higher levels...where I plan to use an Opto-isolator chip, to do this job.

Conclusion: We need very short timed ,but very high peak levels (Voltage) of pulses of both Positive-Negative going to the Coil...starting with 50% dt and running up to 20-80% dt where (T1[On]=20%) and (T2[Off]=80%) or more even to 10-90...
I know this type of oscillator will not control a motor...When we increase "volume" motor will start stalling , making sudden turns of very high RPM's...but stopping every time off..till it will barely move...makes no sense right?...Well, for Radiant we need this type of oscillation...


Regards to all

Ufopolitics

[Mad Scientist]

Thank you ! Do you have similar circuit but for two outputs working like flip-flop with single adjustable duty cycle (width) or fixed 50% ? I have one made with 556 dual oscillator but only for 50Hz and without possible regulation of duty cycle (it's kind of hard task to match capacitor and resistor to obtain perfect 50% for required frequency not mention that variable frequency is impossible that way.

I assume you mean one output going positive and while a second output is going negative.
To do that just add a second IC and use ½ of it as an inverter and the other half as a buffer this will give two outputs that are 180 degrees out of phase with each other.

Note: One LM339 can be used in place of the two Lm393’s, as it is the quad version of the 393.

The 555 is a great little chip, with untold uses, but trying to do this with it is an exercise in learning how to tear your hear out.