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  • Conversion Cold to Hot 'electricity'

    @UFO (and only Ufo )
    A bit off topic, but I want your opinion.
    Recently I viewed a video featuring Tom Bearden.
    In this video he explains how the MEG split the electric field from the (around the electric field curling) magnetic field. The magnetic field was bound in the core, and the electric field was outside the core.
    That's how he created Cold electricity.

    So my logical thinking is, when you want to convert Cold to Hot, you need to put the magnetic field back.
    This can be done: either by pulsating with hot electricity, or by using permanent magnets.

    Maybe I am wrong.
    Just curious.

    Bert
    Last edited by bbem; 05-13-2012, 12:40 PM.

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    • Carbon Fiber

      UFO,

      When I wrote "wires/layers" I meant thatI will insolate between both, so each winding will be isolated just like magnet wire.

      If a carbon fiber (from now on I will abbreviate as CF) coil may not carry the hot well, should I wind a copper magnet wire coil on the spool first, then. The carbon over that so that the copper coil could be used to draw the RE and the CF coil used to collect it? If so, how would the electronics have to work? Would I simply hook both coils in parallel to the same circuit. Could THE CF coil be set up as a secondary coil? Can the CF coil be set up to RECEIVE ONLY and not be pulsed to make a field?

      Or maybe the copper magnet wire coil could be wound on the outside of the CF coil as the Cold energy will be in the center of the air coil, so the Hot's coil should be on the outside. What do you think?

      This is fun,

      Bob

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      • On starting device

        UFO or anybody,

        I have almost completed my first build of your device. Now I need to set it up for testing. I guess I will turn the frequency pot to the most resistance and the duty cycle pot to the middle of it's range. Is this correct or is there a better start setting?

        Thanks,

        Bob

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        • My thought...

          Originally posted by bbem View Post
          @UFO (and only Ufo )
          A bit off topic, but I want your opinion.
          Recently I viewed a video featuring Tom Bearden.
          In this video he explains how the MEG split the electric field from the (around the electric field curling) magnetic field. The magnetic field was bound in the core, and the electric field was outside the core.
          That's how he created Cold electricity.

          So my logical thinking is, when you want to convert Cold to Hot, you need to put the magnetic field back.
          This can be done: either by pulsating with hot electricity, or by using permanent magnets.

          Maybe I am wrong.
          Just curious.

          Bert
          Hello Bbem,

          As I have been able to understand how this process works, because of my testing and development, and also by getting almost all material available to Us, I will tell you my opinion...

          The process of conversion from Hot to Cold is a natural process, it has always existed in every coil we excite and suddenly stop feeding it (drop to zero). However, We must lay all requirements for it to occur properly and in robust ways. The perfect description would be a Magnetic Resonance or Magnetic Feedback, some kind of a "Reversed Magnetic Field Echo" as a reaction response to our action.
          Therefore, in my opinion, the opposite process within the same action-reaction could not be reversed through the same process that originate it.

          If you pulsate with hot the same coil...you will obtain cold back again...I believe you should pulse the Coil with Cold to obtain Hot...don't you think?...However, I have not done this, Cold has a stage of very high frequencies (at higher amplification than just collecting it from primary coil) that would require a special designed electronics to handle a square wave back into the coil at those HF rates...

          The easier way to convert it would be to store Cold and send it to a downgrade transformer or "Buck Converter" of such resonance on its primary as to run and stand this HF pulses and transfer to Secondary a lower pulsed current, then filtered through electronics to get desired and more accurate operating levels. However this process is going to have huge losses for sure...and you may end up getting same amounts of Hot as when you started originally...

          Honestly, I really do not see the point to make that conversion, I understand it as a "short cut" to be able to run Old Hot equipments, appliances, incandescent bulbs and such...but I see it as "going backwards in time again".

          I see a lot of potential in Cold Electricity that are much better than Hot behavior...if we learn how to harness it and mass produce it first...how to store it, and how to manipulate it...then we will be moving on superconductor bearings very soon.

          The thing I see, that converting Hot to Cold is a very inexpensive process..fast and very reliable, but mainly we obtain vast amounts of cold for just pennies of hot usage. Now the reversed process could be the complete opposite in advantage factor.

          Again, this is my opinion, We are still in the early stages (not to say primitive) related to creating Cold from Hot...We still have tons of research and work to be done first...Therefore, we are just "assuming"...theorizing over something we do not have enough grounds to speak with 'Authority" about it.

          Regards Bert

          Ufopolitics
          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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          • Hello Bob!!

            Originally posted by bobfrench@fastmail.fm View Post
            UFO,

            When I wrote "wires/layers" I meant thatI will insolate between both, so each winding will be isolated just like magnet wire.

            If a carbon fiber (from now on I will abbreviate as CF) coil may not carry the hot well, should I wind a copper magnet wire coil on the spool first, then. The carbon over that so that the copper coil could be used to draw the RE and the CF coil used to collect it? If so, how would the electronics have to work? Would I simply hook both coils in parallel to the same circuit. Could THE CF coil be set up as a secondary coil? Can the CF coil be set up to RECEIVE ONLY and not be pulsed to make a field?

            Or maybe the copper magnet wire coil could be wound on the outside of the CF coil as the Cold energy will be in the center of the air coil, so the Hot's coil should be on the outside. What do you think?

            This is fun,

            Bob

            Hello Bob,

            Yes, Ok that is great then!!...you would not have any problems of shorting out then!!
            Related to Hot not creating a magnetic field strong enough is just my thought, not a real and tested fact...it could do it Bob...we both do not know.
            Now, winding copper enameled wire over the carbon would act as a secondary in a transformer, and by the way that is a great idea!!
            I did that set up but with just copper wire, it does induces Cold very efficiently into a secondary wound right on top of the other one.

            YES!! CF COULD BE USED (AS BEST) as a Secondary, ( meaning, DO NOT connect to it ANY INPUT, but use it direct to output and read it. I am pretty sure you will get great output, maybe be greater than expected!
            No, DO NOT CONNECT THEM BOTH IN PARALLEL !! Hot would follow the less resistive path...(copper) , but Hot will manifest also on CF Coil downgrading Cold secondary gain. Remember, it is the Magnetic Field what brings this current in.
            The BEST WAY is that Copper BE OUTER, and CF INNER as Secondary. Radiant induces BEST towards the Inner center...

            Will be waiting to hear from this test Bob!!

            Regards

            Ufopolitics
            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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            • Pot's set up

              Originally posted by bobfrench@fastmail.fm View Post
              UFO or anybody,

              I have almost completed my first build of your device. Now I need to set it up for testing. I guess I will turn the frequency pot to the most resistance and the duty cycle pot to the middle of it's range. Is this correct or is there a better start setting?

              Thanks,

              Bob
              Bob,

              Related to the LM393 circuit I can not answer exactly, I have not build it yet.

              However, to play "safe" I would install a meter at Drain-Positive to read voltage output and also a Scope or Hertz meter on same output terminals...BUT without connecting it to the Coil yet! And turn it on and read...If you have Full Power at Voltage between Drain-Positive then you MUST turn it opposite to zero.

              The same with Frequency (Hertz)...they both should be at ZERO before starting, and then dialing frequency FIRST Up...very slowly.

              YES Duty should be at 50% to start . But play first with Frequency...till you get it...I have got it without varying duty cycle. just Freq.

              Use first a 120 V Neon or a 23 Watts or lower CFL as Monitoring lamp

              Regards

              Ufopolitics
              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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              • Very Important!!

                Originally posted by bobfrench@fastmail.fm View Post
                UFO,

                When I wrote "wires/layers" I meant thatI will insolate between both, so each winding will be isolated just like magnet wire.

                If a carbon fiber (from now on I will abbreviate as CF) coil may not carry the hot well, should I wind a copper magnet wire coil on the spool first, then. The carbon over that so that the copper coil could be used to draw the RE and the CF coil used to collect it? If so, how would the electronics have to work? Would I simply hook both coils in parallel to the same circuit. Could THE CF coil be set up as a secondary coil? Can the CF coil be set up to RECEIVE ONLY and not be pulsed to make a field?

                Or maybe the copper magnet wire coil could be wound on the outside of the CF coil as the Cold energy will be in the center of the air coil, so the Hot's coil should be on the outside. What do you think?

                This is fun,

                Bob
                Hey Bob,

                When you connect Output Carbon Fiber Secondary to a load (CFL) Make sure You ALSO connect another SEPARATE OUTPUT From Primary Copper Coil TO ANOTHER LOAD THROUGH DIODES!!...This is very Important, or your Copper Coil will get super hot and could blow MOSFET's with High Positive Spikes going as reverse feedback through your drain !!

                Make sure of this!!

                Now I hope you are winding BOTH COILS (CF and Copper) AT SAME DIRECTION!!

                Regards and good testing

                Ufopolitics

                Yes, this is fun...so make sure to let Us know so we could have fun also...
                Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                • Start up, Secondary coil.

                  UFO,

                  Thank you for your great help. I hope to try this device today, tomorrow at the latest.

                  I guess that I will not need diodes on the Secondary coil as it is not going to be connected to power input. I hope to make the CF coil this next week (if weather permits).

                  If my device works I will post the circuit.

                  Thanks again,

                  Bob

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                  • Great Bob!

                    Originally posted by bobfrench@fastmail.fm View Post
                    UFO,

                    Thank you for your great help. I hope to try this device today, tomorrow at the latest.

                    I guess that I will not need diodes on the Secondary coil as it is not going to be connected to power input. I hope to make the CF coil this next week (if weather permits).

                    If my device works I will post the circuit.

                    Thanks again,

                    Bob
                    That is great Bob, We will be waiting for your results!
                    Exactly, the secondary does not need diodes...Unless you are using a massive bulk steel frame that will induce Hot on Secondary very strong...But I know you are not...
                    Just a center steel bar or "Paracore" material will 'enhance' your results...
                    Hot will manifest on secondary on high pulses, but very weak, diodes on secondary will show you the difference on both currents, in case you want to make readings...

                    Please keep Us posted!

                    Regards

                    Ufopolitics
                    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                    • Hi all

                      I have updated to the 31GF6 diodes.
                      New coil (other circuit) 100 turns bifilar, one layer, OD:32mm, parallel connection.
                      To adjust frequency, i have changed C1 to 10nF and short R6.
                      Power source: 36v
                      Control circuit: 13.95v
                      I have added a capacitor of 68mF-385v in parallel to the load.
                      Drain current: 390mA for 100% Brilliance eco bulb 11W 240v
                      Drain current: 390mA for 100% Brilliance eco bulb 15W 240v
                      Drain current: 390mA for 100% Brilliance eco bulb 30w 240v. I suspect the factory label should be bad.

                      At this point I am a bit lost. I need to compare my results.

                      @Ufo, I sent a private message to you, Have you received it?

                      I keep on working in the new coil.


                      Regards
                      http://Cacharreo.com.es/foro

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                      • It Works********

                        Hello UFO
                        I want to thank you for what you have done for myself and others and the way you have explained and pulled things togeather for us. What I want to tell you is that both Bob and I not have our systems running and are seeing things that we have never seen befor. Bob will be contacting you on monday and will have pictures for you. Get your sun glasses on. We are also progressing on the CF and will report findings when we get the materials needed to insulate it.
                        Dana
                        "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
                        Nikola Tesla

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                        • PS

                          UFO
                          I do not know where that word (not ) came fron in my post. That fact is that we have success and everything is working better than fantastic.
                          Dana
                          "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
                          Nikola Tesla

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                          • Hi all

                            Nobody has commented nothing on my observation in:
                            http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post188138

                            Do you see that behavior normally?
                            It's my guess that the difference of voltage should be inverse Right?



                            Regards
                            http://Cacharreo.com.es/foro

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                            • Originally posted by bbem View Post
                              @UFO (and only Ufo )
                              A bit off topic, but I want your opinion.
                              Recently I viewed a video featuring Tom Bearden.
                              In this video he explains how the MEG split the electric field from the (around the electric field curling) magnetic field. The magnetic field was bound in the core, and the electric field was outside the core.
                              That's how he created Cold electricity.

                              So my logical thinking is, when you want to convert Cold to Hot, you need to put the magnetic field back.
                              This can be done: either by pulsating with hot electricity, or by using permanent magnets.

                              Maybe I am wrong.
                              Just curious.

                              Bert
                              Hallo bbem,

                              simple conversion COLD to HOT is just via big capacitor. Only requirement here is frequency ! El.Caps don't like low frequency with big ripple current. So you have to use HF caps as pre-filter and then el.caps to store energy.

                              Best way is to charge cap bank to maximal allowed level (Uds and cap max voltage dependent) and then use BUCK convertor to regulate output voltage. I am working on it now. One DSP controller regulating COLD side via duty cycle value to do not 'overshoot' max levels together with BUCK regulation of DC output voltage. Last step is full bridge true sine wave converter to make 230VAC. But this is not important at the moment.

                              Try to youtube 'Teslas Impulse Technology - John Bedini Lecture1/3' there are all answers Be sure you go through all 3 videos

                              Cinan

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                              • Wow!

                                UFO et al,

                                WOW! That's what I'm talking about!

                                I ran my new build last night and FRIED a neon, super lit a 65w CFL, and did a little bit of battery charging. I will provide pics if I can negotiate Photobucket. I'm not the best computer guy. I have drawn the circuit from a compilation of pages 4, 12, & 13 and Dana is going to computerize it. It will be posted soon. The circuitry, except for the pots and MOSFETs, are on a 2" by 2" PCB. Everything, except the coil, is mounted on a 4" by 6" wood board.

                                First, I started with the most resistance on the frequency pot and mid-range on the duty cycle. I never changed the duty cycle which measured around 8%. I never got my frequency up much past 133Hz, which is where it started. The CFL was so bright from the very beginning that I was afraid to turn things up much.

                                UFO said that my coil was "a monster" (a good thing) and he was spot on! I think the 1.5" ParaCore works!

                                Second, my MOSFETs started heating up so I shut things down after about 5 minutes each time. They got into the high 90's, even to 100 degrees. So is this a function the duty what cycle, or low frequency, or what?

                                Thirdly, I guess that I need something bigger to run than a CFL, like a motor. I would like to turn up the frequency and see what this baby can do. Maybe if I get the CF coil together, I will have to look for a small city to light up.

                                UFO, you have made this wonderful device possible and I want to thank you for everything you've done and endured to make this come to life. I'm having a blast!

                                Thank you,

                                Bob

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