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  • Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    Hello Ufopolitics & All,

    I found few resonant spots starting quite low. At about 160Hz was one of the strongest and I had to reduce input a bit since neon started to go white/purple. My DMM across the battery went crazy. I used square wave with 2-3% duty cycle.
    Yes, neon glows happily under water too (tap water). I tried few coils but they have different wire and number of turns. They all worked. I'm looking for one bifilar (or trifilar) left after some other tests. It should work better than single wound. There is a nice resonance showing on the drain, sort of "trumpet wave".
    I hope to have some time tonight to put 555 oscillator together. I'm running on 24V since these are the only two identical,small batteries I have. It is hard to see anything with 100Ah in series.

    @kapierenundkopieren
    very nice job

    Thanks
    Vtech

    Hey Blackchisel!!

    Great!..That's same I got...on Neon, kind of bright purpleish blue-white ball of plasma running between electrodes...
    Just a couple of questions...
    Did you read when it started to change to "Normal Neon Illumination"...like the typical orange...or it kept white purple at all times?.
    Did you read (Hertz and Wave %) when you lost it..(meaning loose the purple light)...if you ever did...
    Because You are having same as me, but I loose Radiant at certain point...then it gets regular Neon Light...and I can keep going up...but no sense...I lost Her (Radiance I call her as a short for Radiant Energy to Cold Electricity Process)
    And yes,, She is a Female and a very beautiful one!!...lol


    Cheers

    Ufopolitics
    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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    • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
      Hey Blackchisel!!

      Great!..That's same I got...on Neon, kind of bright purpleish blue-white ball of plasma running between electrodes...
      Just a couple of questions...
      Did you read when it started to change to "Normal Neon Illumination"...like the typical orange...or it kept white purple at all times?.
      Did you read (Hertz and Wave %) when you lost it..(meaning loose the purple light)...if you ever did...
      Because You are having same as me, but I loose Radiant at certain point...then it gets regular Neon Light...and I can keep going up...but no sense...I lost Her (Radiance I call her as a short for Radiant Energy to Cold Electricity Process)
      And yes,, She is a Female and a very beautiful one!!...lol

      Cheers
      Ufopolitics
      Hello Ufopolitics, Yes, there is a certain spot at very low frequency when it happens (it may happen higher too but I tried to keep input current and pulse amplitude as low as possible). Increasing frequency will result in bright but "normal" orange. I'll try to get freq. readings off my scope- it is the only way I can measure atm.

      Thanks
      Vtech
      'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

      General D.Eisenhower


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      • I got some data, however, it maybe a bit chaotic due to highly disorganized workspace
        I used very low dc (3-5% on time). The only variables are function gen. output and frequency. I also monitor current and battery V (37.7V).
        I started with just enough pulse amplitude to get transistor working and slowly increasing frequency. First neon response (orange floating) appeared at 40Hz. Slight increase in gen. amplitude resulted in purple plasma but current draw was high - almost 180mA. Next, much brighter spot occurred at 312Hz and I had to reduce amplitude to save neons (I have two in parallel). This and the next spot - 555Hz were both at 100mA. Another one at 650Hz and 85mA and next at 1.113 kHz (which was the last point with purple glow) at 50mA.
        Brightest orange was observed at 1.800Khz.
        I can run 9W CFL (most efficient spot) at about 4kHz and 11kHz (approx.25mA) with reduced amplitude, after igniting.
        This test was done on my first coil setup, three toroid chokes in series, wound with approx. 50T #16 each.

        Thanks
        Vtech
        'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

        General D.Eisenhower


        http://www.nvtronics.org

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        • Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
          I got some data, however, it maybe a bit chaotic due to highly disorganized workspace
          I used very low dc (3-5% on time). The only variables are function gen. output and frequency. I also monitor current and battery V (37.7V).
          I started with just enough pulse amplitude to get transistor working and slowly increasing frequency. First neon response (orange floating) appeared at 40Hz. Slight increase in gen. amplitude resulted in purple plasma but current draw was high - almost 180mA. Next, much brighter spot occurred at 312Hz and I had to reduce amplitude to save neons (I have two in parallel). This and the next spot - 555Hz were both at 100mA. Another one at 650Hz and 85mA and next at 1.113 kHz (which was the last point with purple glow) at 50mA.
          Brightest orange was observed at 1.800Khz.
          I can run 9W CFL (most efficient spot) at about 4kHz and 11kHz (approx.25mA) with reduced amplitude, after igniting.
          This test was done on my first coil setup, three toroid chokes in series, wound with approx. 50T #16 each.

          Thanks
          Vtech

          Hello Blackchisel,

          On your neon measurement (On Low Hertz) it was great, and you were able to retain the Purple Light..."Slight increase in gen. amplitude resulted in purple plasma but current draw was high - almost 180mA..."
          Ok, Radiant Energy enters our system at T-Off times, but it requires of our Magnetic Field to be there...therefore increasing amplitude or frequency gets you more Radiance..So, when you increased the Gen Amplitude (either at a percentage of On or Off or both, it made it flow in.

          Now, The Toroid is (I am pretty sure) your problem at Higher Increase of Hertz...tell you why:

          Toroid s are Not "Open Magnetic Dipoles"..They do not project the magnetic field spectrum defined into space...instead they 'wrap it' inside the toroidal ring core...NOT GOOD! . That the reason you need so much frequency to light up a 6W CFL...

          I do it in a 65W at @2000 Hertz of Radiant magnetic field...while Mine (Input, between diodes and Coil) is at 800 Hz...
          That's Big time difference.
          Blackchisel, please measure Hertz at Input of Coil, before diodes, and After Diodes (Output to CFL) Please..And don't need Scope just Hertz Meters will do.

          You will see a huge difference with a plain cylindrical Coil...I am sure of that.
          Because you have a very solid and well defined signal control there...so, to me it is Your Toroid Coil...


          Cheers


          Ufopolitics
          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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          • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
            Hello Blackchisel,

            On your neon measurement (On Low Hertz) it was great, and you were able to retain the Purple Light..."Slight increase in gen. amplitude resulted in purple plasma but current draw was high - almost 180mA..."
            Ok, Radiant Energy enters our system at T-Off times, but it requires of our Magnetic Field to be there...therefore increasing amplitude or frequency gets you more Radiance..So, when you increased the Gen Amplitude (either at a percentage of On or Off or both, it made it flow in.

            Now, The Toroid is (I am pretty sure) your problem at Higher Increase of Hertz...tell you why:

            Toroid s are Not "Open Magnetic Dipoles"..They do not project the magnetic field spectrum defined into space...instead they 'wrap it' inside the toroidal ring core...NOT GOOD! . That the reason you need so much frequency to light up a 6W CFL...

            I do it in a 65W at @2000 Hertz of Radiant magnetic field...while Mine (Input, between diodes and Coil) is at 800 Hz...
            That's Big time difference.
            Blackchisel, please measure Hertz at Input of Coil, before diodes, and After Diodes (Output to CFL) Please..And don't need Scope just Hertz Meters will do.

            You will see a huge difference with a plain cylindrical Coil...I am sure of that.
            Because you have a very solid and well defined signal control there...so, to me it is Your Toroid Coil...

            Cheers
            Ufopolitics
            Yes, I agree about the toroid. I used to get something before winding proper one. So far toroid gave me best results but h. freq. I also tried conical, single wound and it worked too.
            The only way I can measure frequency is from the scope. My DMM's don't have this option. It seems that I have the same reading before and after diodes

            Thanks
            Vtech
            'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

            General D.Eisenhower


            http://www.nvtronics.org

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            • Hi Ufo and kapierenundkopieren,

              I have noticed that the variable resistor on your diagrams are set out different. Assuming that the connection marked "W" on Ufo's circuit is the wiper arm of the variable resistor, kapierenundkopieren has a different connection as the wiper arm. Can someone please clarify this connection for me please.

              Thanks netica

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              • Originally posted by Netica View Post
                Hi Ufo and kapierenundkopieren,

                I have noticed that the variable resistor on your diagrams are set out different. Assuming that the connection marked "W" on Ufo's circuit is the wiper arm of the variable resistor, kapierenundkopieren has a different connection as the wiper arm. Can someone please clarify this connection for me please.

                Thanks netica
                Yes, you're correct, "wiper arm" should go to pin 7 of 555. There is no need to make any other modification than switching wires at 250K pins. I posted earlier modified layout and drew VR on it. Post # 116.

                Thanks
                V
                'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

                General D.Eisenhower


                http://www.nvtronics.org

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                • Thanks blackchisel i've just checked out the earlier modification, I wonder if this would change kapierenundkopieren's simulation.

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                  • I managed to wind new coil with #18. Unfortunately, all I had left from other projects was enough for 300T. I got 60T per layer and separated each with tape. All layers connected outside in series - 1E>2S, 2E>3S etc. 1S connected to positive - which will become N pole. I tried aircore first and later fitted with iron core - welding rods. With core I have neon and CFL brighter @ lower A (9W CFL fully lit @200mA air vs 90mA iron core - 3.3W). Same purple dance in neon at lower freq. but I had to increase ON duty. I couldn't get same effect as with toroid (or Rodin) @dc 3%.
                    With CFL connected I have a wave very similar to solid state - "h". I need to fix my X10 probe. I'm scoping at X1 and have to scroll up and down to see only 75%
                    I'll try different transistor tomorrow. I don't think this is right.

                    Thanks
                    V
                    'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

                    General D.Eisenhower


                    http://www.nvtronics.org

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                    • Originally posted by Netica View Post
                      Thanks blackchisel i've just checked out the earlier modification, I wonder if this would change kapierenundkopieren's simulation.
                      Yes it does change the simulation. If the wiper of the pot is connected to pin 7 of 555 (like ufopolitics original schematic) you can only vary the duty cycle and the frequency is fixed at 528Hz. I think this is incorrect, because ufopolitics talks about changing the frequency and the duty cycle, so i think my schematic and simulation should be correct.

                      @Ufopolitics, can you please clarify this? Is the wiper of the pot in your schematic in the right place?
                      Thanks

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                      • Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
                        I managed to wind new coil with #18. Unfortunately, all I had left from other projects was enough for 300T. I got 60T per layer and separated each with tape. All layers connected outside in series - 1E>2S, 2E>3S etc. 1S connected to positive - which will become N pole. I tried aircore first and later fitted with iron core - welding rods. With core I have neon and CFL brighter @ lower A (9W CFL fully lit @200mA air vs 90mA iron core - 3.3W). Same purple dance in neon at lower freq. but I had to increase ON duty. I couldn't get same effect as with toroid (or Rodin) @dc 3%.
                        With CFL connected I have a wave very similar to solid state - "h". I need to fix my X10 probe. I'm scoping at X1 and have to scroll up and down to see only 75%
                        I'll try different transistor tomorrow. I don't think this is right.

                        Thanks
                        V
                        Hello Blackchisel!!

                        I am very glad that you've got it in better with that coil, 300T is Ok...However the more Turns the better out Hot side will work at lower temperatures.
                        You got better results with Iron Core, because of the "Hot Side" develops better its flux, therefore, Our Magnetic Field becomes stronger, this makes the "Magnetic Invoke" for Radiant much faster and efficient, and less expensive on our side.
                        But Radiant Energy does NOT requires to do "Her" flux in steel. She moves in the air...(That is Her Medium)...So Induction occurs in a Secondary without steel core. This fact is better for Us, since Hot requires Steel to develop and grow flux...so in a Secondary with air core...Hot will be present at very minimal levels. So We here, achieve a perfect Isolation of Radiance.

                        Thanks Blackchisel, am very glad of your results!!

                        Cheers

                        Ufopolitics
                        Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                        • Originally posted by kapierenundkopieren View Post
                          Yes it does change the simulation. If the wiper of the pot is connected to pin 7 of 555 (like ufopolitics original schematic) you can only vary the duty cycle and the frequency is fixed at 528Hz. I think this is incorrect, because ufopolitics talks about changing the frequency and the duty cycle, so i think my schematic and simulation should be correct.

                          @Ufopolitics, can you please clarify this? Is the wiper of the pot in your schematic in the right place?
                          Thanks
                          Hello kapierenundkopieren,

                          First I want to thank you again for your great work...
                          That circuit I've got is NOT Perfect, however it will give you the readings I mentioned. Like I said before here, I got that circuit from a Guy that builds electronic stuff...then I modified to the Spec's of my Motors (Voltage Regulator, and other things)

                          But You, kapierenundkopieren,Has gotten it and given the other parameter We ALL also need to play with...and I will explain in another post am about to do, related to my newest findings.
                          The Frequency MUST be able to be adjusted...In mine It can't...reason why we can not "accelerate" all the way...because we approach an "almost" linear signal with very little T-Off...That KILLS Radiant Energy.

                          The "Perfect" Square Wave for Radiant Energy capturing, should work "Inversely Proportional" to Our Hot Electricity...Copy that?
                          Meaning, We start with progressive and wide T-On's on our pulses at 50%...That Originates (on Our Side) a very Strong pulsating magnetic field that Invokes Radiant in our circuit....Then we keep tuning at 50% till we get Her very Solid...(The point I mentioned where Our Hertz remain while "Radiance" side keeps increasing...NOW, At this point (I call it Saturation of OUR MAGNETIC FIELD in the Good side of it). At this point Our Square wave should be slightly DECREASING its T-On and widening the T-Off (I know this may sound very stupid for many, but the thing is that we are trying to use our side as less as possible...while we allow Her to GROW.

                          Now, based on this totally new principle and concept....is that We must start conceiving and designing, our perfect capturing System to finally conquer Radiant Energy in a very Robust way.

                          Thanks again kapierenundkopieren,
                          Excellent work!!

                          Ufopolitics
                          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                          • Originally posted by Netica View Post
                            Thanks blackchisel i've just checked out the earlier modification, I wonder if this would change kapierenundkopieren's simulation.
                            Hello Netica!

                            Please read my comment #177 that I respond to kapierenundkopieren, your answer is there.

                            Thanks

                            Ufopolitics
                            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                            • My Newest Findings

                              Hello Everyone!!

                              INTRODUCTION:

                              Last night I made Two great findings related to a more robust form, to get Radiant in our Systems...Every time since the first day, when I discover this great and simple form of capturing Radiant Energy....I had experienced a Duality of Feelings that is not normal in a typical mentally sane mind...Happiness, because of my great discovery...and a very deep Sadness takes over without being able to fight it out of myself...

                              So, I will "Divide" this post today in two parts:

                              1- The Technical and the Happy Side, That I know must will be interested on, since this is what this site is all about...
                              Here I will disclose my latest findings that really, I considered very useful to all of you. As it will radically change our minds completely.

                              So, if you wanna "Skip" my other post...please do, I will understand it...However...We are made of a great nerves system, that works very synchronized with our thoughts and behavior through all our lifetime on this Earth..So, I needed to "Release" this "Other Side of Me, the Human one) to you also as a kind of "Therapy" to myself also...I hope you could understand me.

                              2- The Political-Economical and very Sad part of this "Movie"...
                              As I move through, making great progress with this great discovery, I can not avoid to look back...at our history simultaneously...
                              I can avoid to coincide and understand the so many great men along our past who stood up against the Orthodox Science...trying to reveal their great and asserted findings...As also I see that the Conspiracy have been very real and truth...to keep us the way we are...Using ancient technologies, based on Fossil Fuels exploding and burning...at very high prices that includes our life as mankind on this beautiful planet to be extincted, wiped out of our Universe.
                              You all know the rest...

                              Thanks for reading me


                              Next Two posts coming...above


                              Ufopolitics
                              Last edited by Ufopolitics; 02-17-2012, 11:18 PM. Reason: improvement
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                              • The Technical And Very "happy Side"

                                FIRST RESEARCH TO A BEST RESULTS COIL DESIGN-IMPROVEMENT: A PARALLEL MULTIFILAR COIL

                                I am in the process of building a Better Core based on my findings, research and developments...And I got a very robust one last night.

                                I tried a Plastic Core (actually a "modified" 1 1/4 Inch of PVC pipe-line) In order to have an Air Core based Coil...I turned 600/ 18 Gauge wire on it and got better results than with the previous Steel Core 360 T, however, I was looking to get rid of that "Dive" Radiant is taking from very low pulsations, when I get that beautiful purple plasma dance on my Neons... to Fully lit Bulbs...There is a Gap, that she disappears ...and as I keep slowly turning...I can see How much she "Fights" against something, opposing for her to come in...till she wins...and we get Her.
                                Well, last night I overcome that.
                                I thought I will give it a try to a Bifilar Winding as Nikola Tesla patented in the early 1900...with the same 600Turns/18gauge...So I went through all the trouble of passing all the winding to an empty Roll...and making it bifilar (For those who does not know about this method...is just simple, Instead of using one wire, it uses two strains and then connected in series. This gives a Parallel Electromagnetic Field effect, while having the connection in series.) When I tried testing it, to my disappointment it DID NOT worked out, the Coil got hotter than usual, and much less Radiance out...than the regular straight 600T/18Ga ...But,I did not "hide" inside the windings where I did the split-connection ...since I am "testing" it is not a good scientific approach to give things by completed and granted, when all we are doing here is "experimenting"...

                                So then I separate them and wire them in PARALLEL...AND WAS THAT great results!!!....PARALLEL BIFILAR connection, got rid of the "Dive" I had....I am getting now a fully lit lamp very straight and robust, while my consumptions has decreased considerably to our advantage.
                                I am getting a very beautiful dancing light of purple plasma on my Neon...However, since parallel is also a strong approach for Hot Electricity to travel, I am getting also Orange Hot light mixed up...which is no problem...Radiant grows on Resistance, so the Diode "leak" of Hot into my side could be easily resolved with a very high Mega-Ohm resistor...I am sure that would be a solution...since I do not think We have a 100% , Zero leak current Diode as of yet...If you think of a better solution, please share it here.



                                SECOND RESEARCH RESULTS: CARBON FIBER IS A MUCH BETTER, EFFICIENT SUPER-CONDUCTOR FOR RADIANT ENERGY THAN THE "OLD" COPPER MATERIAL USED IN OUR ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS UP TO NOW


                                I was trying to create an Induction through Air of pure Radiant Energy...And I did...better and faster than Hot Electricity, no need for a Huge, heavy piece of Laminated Steel core...However, when I got a Ring I had made of Carbon Fiber, from a previous project....and wind it... it did not worked !!...nothing , absolutely no Radiance came out...after trying with other materials and having great positive results...I had Isolated the Enameled wire...from the Carbon fiber...still no signs of Radiant...This triggered my Scientific Curiosity...to try other tests...
                                I got just a piece of carbon mesh made with Polyester Resin...and tried to install it in series with a Radiant Lit Bulb...Nothing happened...Radiant did not go through!! ...And if anyone does not know...Carbon Fiber is a great Hot Electricity conductor, no matter with what resin you do it with...
                                The fact that Radiant was not going through Carbon Fiber did not made ANY sense at ALL to me...since Radiant goes through Our Carbon Resistors like they were NOT there, not even getting them hot!!??
                                So I did another experiment...just to conclude and made sure My deductions were correct.
                                I had a Radiant lit bulb...a CFL, fully bright...and just got the connectors (WITHOUT SEPARATING THEM, BUT JOINED TOGETHER) And got them to JUST "touch" the Cylindrical piece of carbon fiber...and guess what happened?!....Radiant went off completely!!...I had to reset to zero pulses and re-try to make sure it was not due to anything else...but yes...every time I just touched a "live wire" with Radiant to a Carbon Fiber mesh....got it OFF COMPLETELY...and IMMEDIATELY AS CONTACTS HIT THE SURFACE OF THE MESH.!!!

                                Then I turned everything off...lit up a cigarette...and started to process that brand new data...to get to conclusions....Did you get it by now??

                                Well this is the thing...A Carbon Fiber mesh is like a COMPLETELY SHORTED OUT Circuit Board for Hot Electricity...where Every single copper line is shorted out...without any resistance at all...Will you expect the Bulb at other end of that Circuit Board to EVER Light Up in a circuit where every single millimeter of copper line is shorted out?...Absolutely NOT

                                Radiant is much faster than Hot electricity...however she is not as aggressive and explosion type, fires and burning like Hot Does....Radiance simply goes away...not one spark...just the light went off...I had to Invoke her again FROM ZERO every time I did this testings...meaning, the one we've got, we shorted...She's gone.


                                This Fact LEADS into IMAGINING the greatest, ever made before, much better equipment-developments that We could be designing in a very short time, and that so far...it belonged to a Stephen Spielberg's Science Fiction Movie...like Motors and generators that have a Fiberglass, Kevlar or other light composite material not as heavy as the "Old Piece of Steel" but STRONGER than it...
                                But the BEST...is to build Electronic-Electrical Circuitry, like Circuit Boards for Radiant Energy, based on printed carbon fiber lines in a bed of isolated mica or fiberglass..So, Copper is NO LONGER required here...AT ALL!!
                                Imagine a Motor based on a Light Kevlar Composite Core-Armature-Rotor-Stators Structure?...very light...and very strong...an ever lasting machine...
                                But...Now let's wind it...guess what?...No more High Temperature Enamel, Copper wire, required either..!! as the Oldest Material used into Electromagnetism!!...Sorry Copper, but say Goodbye to Hollywood!!
                                An Isolated Carbon Fiber strand like a human hair size....stronger than Copper...5 times stronger than Steel Alloys (HSLA- High Strength Light Alloy) Holding higher temperatures than copper...and never getting "crispy fried" like many motors and generators when they short out..We will build the REAL SUPER MACHINES HERE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...!!!

                                But that's NOT ALL...

                                The Super-Magnetic Fields that a Coil made of Carbon fiber strand creates...Isolated properly ...goes beyond our reality...into Science Fiction levels...I am talking Anti gravity...properties...that's how fast and effective they are...(We do not have Isolated fine carbon fiber wires as of yet available...just the "Old typical" Spark Plugs Cables that are carbon made inside, but isolated with a heavy Silicon cover...not good for winding a Motor...So We have to build them ourselves...layer by layer...sandwiched with resins...(Epoxies or Polyesters).

                                Now let's remember...that Carbon is a very cheap material...I could say One of the cheapest in our planet...

                                While Copper gets expensive by the minute...

                                This is a FACT....and is happening NOW...You could go ahead and verify what am saying-writing here today...Go ahead...I encourage for You all to test This and the following test I will be exposing!!


                                Have a Super Nice Weekend!!



                                Ufopolitics
                                (The Disclosure is NOW!)



                                P.D: I decided , after writing all this...that I really do not want to spoil our joy and happiness...with sadness right now...I feel better that I shared this with you all now..So, no, I won't...I will let you "figure out"... what would I have posted as my next comment entirely to your imagination...

                                Cheers!!
                                Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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