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  • Originally posted by EMJunkie View Post
    Hey there UFO!

    Nice work brother! Can I please ask, for purposes of replication, the following:

    Input Coil:
    Inductance: ?
    DC Resistance: ?
    AWG: ?
    Turns: ?
    Core OD: ?
    Supplied Voltage: ?
    Supplied Amps: ?

    Bi Filar: (yes or no and connection type, series or parallel centre tapped) (if this is different than your last Motor Diagram that is)

    Your Resonant Frequency: ? (on the 555 timer output pin)

    Output Coil:
    Inductance: ?
    DC Resistance: ?
    AWG: ?
    Turns: ?
    Output Voltage: ?
    Output Amps: ?

    Bi Filar: (yes or no and connection type, series or parallel centre tapped) (if this is different than your last Motor Diagram that is)

    Output Frequency on the Output: ? (The Frequency on the output - scope probes in your video)

    You said in one post: don’t worry about the coil to much yet. Could it be that the coil is the trick here? The winding and wiring of this coil may be where the Negative Resistance is coming from? I am more than happy to replicate your device if you can provide me with the above information. I have been around for a bit and I don’t give up easily.

    So let me know and I will do the best I can to replicate your setup.

    All the Best - EMJunkie

    Hey EMJunkie....

    Do you want me to also build the replication for you?...should I send it UPS or FEDEX?

    Must of what You are asking is on this thread...except the obvious things that could be calculated by having One or Two Parameters...like Inductance...having the AWG and Turns and Diameter of core...I mean, there are hundreds of "On Line calculators" for this things on the net...
    Bifilar , I said works out better...but originally I used a single wire in LAYERS of 120 Turns each...is also on this thread.
    I had used a Bifilar just because there are two strands of wire turned together. Not Center Tapped. This is NOT a Kickback Coil.

    Input I said I used Three LiPo Batteries 12V each pack (11. Something volts each ) 2200 MAmps.


    I am glad you are a "Non Giving Up easy person"...but please...do not make me repeat things that are already written , discussed and explained in detail here...I do not have the time.

    Thanks

    Ufopolitics
    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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    • Originally posted by fathershand View Post
      ERFINDER, did you use the exact same circuit that he gave in this thread?

      UFOPOLITICS, I have the following Ford Radiator fan motot to try this with:

      Ford part # is F8LH-8K621-AA
      Siemens # is 162-022-05

      I put my meter across 2 of the 3 motor leads and slowly rotated the rotor. The highest resistance that I got was 2.8 to 3 Ohms. It has 4 brushes.

      Would you recommend that I use this motor for a test? Also, should I build a bifilar coil with 18AWG wire with resistance greater than 3.0 for each winding? What value of resistance would you recommend for this?

      Thanks for your help!! I am looking forward to great things.
      Tony
      Hello Fathershand,

      That is a "heavy consumer" motor for the test...However, a bit complicated, because the 4 brush system. You have to realize that a 4 brush system motor uses all four sections of the Quadrant , therefore it "pulls" , drains or require more "juices" than a two brush system.

      The Coil you will have to build should be greater (I would say double, at least) than the Motor resistance. It has to be a robust coil to stand the demand from motor and be balanced out. And this is talking about the Primary...

      I would do the following:

      Before winding the Secondary, do it just with the Primary (It works also great this way)...But mainly this is to test the robustness of your turns...watch for overheating of any one (Coil or Motor)

      Measure the real draw of motor on "Normal Conditions" , temperature, meaning supplying the required by factory spec's...etc...This needs to be done for all testings...otherwise How could you tell the difference?

      I just looked it up and found it has two speeds?...draws 33 to 40 amps?...check the Ford specs...please...if it is so...then your power source would need to be in compliance...definitively -if it is like this- is not good for this testing.

      Thanks

      Ufopolitics
      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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      • Voltage Regulator Updated

        Hello Netica, BBen,

        Here it is updated...I had to take apart my working N-Channel to see it all...I added this two little caps, and delete the other resistors...

        Thanks Kapierenundkopieren for your help, could you run this one and tell me what your software tells you?...appreciate it , thanks again!!

        I hope it works for you now...

        Attached Files
        Last edited by Ufopolitics; 03-12-2012, 02:59 PM.
        Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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        • Update

          Originally posted by wingstalysis View Post
          Greetings, UFO,
          Excuse my slow response in responding to your most important answers, and request for further data. I am most excited about that which you kindly shared. I will take a look at the DC Motor in my Mobility Scooter and let you know everything I can. I'm pretty sure it has brushes. I'll be back in touch soon as I can. Thanks again UFO for your kindness. I wish I was gifted as you are in this exciting futureistic technology that has patiently been awaiting to be recognised and utilised by Humanity. Take it easy UFO, and have a no worries day in Florida-watch out for Aligators.

          Wings
          Hey! UFO, you are somethin else what a gift you have. I have been holding back on supplying the info you asked for, not because I am being procrastinating, but, to stop myself from being instant gratification, and hitting dead ends(motor is two brush). I've been watching and reading how things are progressing in this nuclear and exciting very evolved thread. I realise that SLA batteries in my mobility scooter, which are a pain in the booty are out of the equation. Thus I have spent some time to research. Would you let me know if I'm navigating in the correct direction. You stated 36 VDC Lithium. I found this company which is in our ball park though they seem to be out of stock for what I require at present. UFO here is their web address. Maybe it will be of interest to others here to if you give me the Green light.

          Results for DIY BATTERY PACK KITS

          Let us know please when you get a moment or two, and thank you so very much for allowing me into your office.
          Take it easy,
          Love and honour,
          WingsTalysis
          I AM THE ONE

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          • Originally posted by wingstalysis View Post
            Hey! UFO, you are somethin else what a gift you have. I have been holding back on supplying the info you asked for, not because I am being procrastinating, but, to stop myself from being instant gratification, and hitting dead ends(motor is two brush). I've been watching and reading how things are progressing in this nuclear and exciting very evolved thread. I realise that SLA batteries in my mobility scooter, which are a pain in the booty are out of the equation. Thus I have spent some time to research. Would you let me know if I'm navigating in the correct direction. You stated 36 VDC Lithium. I found this company which is in our ball park though they seem to be out of stock for what I require at present. UFO here is their web address. Maybe it will be of interest to others here to if you give me the Green light.

            Results for DIY BATTERY PACK KITS


            Let us know please when you get a moment or two, and thank you so very much for allowing me into your office.
            Take it easy,
            Love and honour,
            WingsTalysis
            Hey Wingtalysis,

            Lovely things they have in that site!!...They are kinda expensive though...

            The one thing I do not like, is that Batteries are LiFePO4...They do not have a good reputation, after the Lithium Eon and Lithium Polymers came out...

            However, I saw the chargers, they look pretty new style, light...
            Try to find out if they are 1C, 2C or 3C...That's the charging rate...We need them 3C, the fastest charge rate, but I doubt it...since Fe takes very long to charge.

            Regards

            Ufopolitics
            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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            • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
              Hey Wingtalysis,

              Lovely things they have in that site!!...They are kinda expensive though...

              The one thing I do not like, is that Batteries are LiFePO4...They do not have a good reputation, after the Lithium Eon and Lithium Polymers came out...

              However, I saw the chargers, they look pretty new style, light...
              Try to find out if they are 1C, 2C or 3C...That's the charging rate...We need them 3C, the fastest charge rate, but I doubt it...since Fe takes very long to charge.

              Regards

              Ufopolitics
              Hey! Ok UFO,
              Appreciate your kind input. I will comply. Also, Where would you recommend I purchase the required batteries. I'm rather new at this so I appreciate you sharing what 1C, 2C or 3C means.As I get up to Thought Speed with your kind assistance, I will be more beneficial to you and all the other evolved beings in your Office of Light.

              Thank you UFO for being you, and putting yourself out to help us all.I also thank our Bro's who follow you, and share their experience, that also helps neophytes not unlike me.
              Take it easy,
              Wingsnotworthy:
              I AM THE ONE

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              • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                Hey EMJunkie....

                Do you want me to also build the replication for you?...should I send it UPS or FEDEX?

                Must of what You are asking is on this thread...except the obvious things that could be calculated by having One or Two Parameters...like Inductance...having the AWG and Turns and Diameter of core...I mean, there are hundreds of "On Line calculators" for this things on the net...
                Bifilar , I said works out better...but originally I used a single wire in LAYERS of 120 Turns each...is also on this thread.
                I had used a Bifilar just because there are two strands of wire turned together. Not Center Tapped. This is NOT a Kickback Coil.

                Input I said I used Three LiPo Batteries 12V each pack (11. Something volts each ) 2200 MAmps.


                I am glad you are a "Non Giving Up easy person"...but please...do not make me repeat things that are already written , discussed and explained in detail here...I do not have the time.

                Thanks

                Ufopolitics
                Dear UFOPolitics,

                I read all your posts, most of the information I asked for you have not provided at all, Vin is about all, I was polite to you! I asked, for the record, a few parameters that would take all of about 10 minutes to take!

                I am disappointed in your response here! I have used this circuit for 12 years, so this is not new my friend; you’re not cutting the edge of science here. Bob Teal before us in 73 was doing this, Nikola Tesla before him, so get off your high horse and if you want people to replicate your work, give them the appropriate information.

                I thought you had something there for a while, but revising your information, I believe this is nothing more than attitude? We both know that Inductance is not calculated correctly for Bi-Filar Coils! Especially if the Core OD is not given! by giving a milliamp reading with no numbers is not an amperage reading!

                If you can’t provide simple information that people are asking for then you are wasting everyone’s time here!

                Unfortunately I will not be wasting any more time with you as this sort of response tells me that you’re hiding something! Besides Fluorescent tubes are the worst load to indicate power output that you could find. They pull sucker punches and most that have experience will agree with me.

                Best of Luck UFOPolitics - EMJunkie

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                • Originally posted by EMJunkie
                  Dear UFOPolitics,

                  I read all your posts, I was polite to you! I asked, for the record, a few parameters that would take all of about 10 minutes to take!

                  I am disappointed in your response here! I have used this circuit for 12 years, so this is not new my friend; you’re not cutting the edge of science here. Bob Teal before us in 73 was doing this, Nikola Tesla before him, so get off your high horse and if you want people to replicate your work, give them the appropriate information.

                  I thought you had something there for a while, but revising your information, I believe this is nothing more than attitude? We both know that Inductance is not calculated correctly for Bi-Filar Coils! Especially if the Core OD is not given!

                  If you can’t provide simple information that people are asking for then you are wasting everyone’s time here!

                  Unfortunately I will not be wasting any more time with you as this sort of response tells me that you’re hiding something! Besides Fluorescent tubes are the worst load to indicate power output that you could find. They pull sucker punches and most that have experience will agree with me.

                  Best of Luck UFOPolitics - EMJunkie
                  Hey EMJunkie,

                  You landed here for your first time...asking for lots of info, my friend, that it IS ALL HERE, on the posts.
                  The OD is here, the original Coil also description with AWG, the Oscillator in great detail, plus pictures, diagrams, etc.
                  I had specified the Original Coil WAS NOT BIFILAR, but You want to 'jump' to Bifilar arrangement without trying the original set-up first.

                  Look at above post, some people are stock in a simple LM317 Voltage Regulator that is also everywhere on the net...However, I took my time, took apart my oscillator to go to the newest components I added...that I do not have to remember off hand, since I have moved to better oscillators -also discussed here- However, I did made a new graphic and post it here...and it is not 'precisely' a "Hand Drawing".

                  You wanna know many parameters you could find out yourself with the first simple test I provided here.

                  I am sorry but You did not go over all the posts here, not only from me, but from everybody else here.
                  Asking about OD?...We discussed that with even pictures here.
                  AWG?...We also went over that over and over...
                  Input specs?...also
                  and so on.

                  I know also about the Rules on Forums, my friend, and It is not polite, to be asking for things are already written here...just because youi 'decided' to 'land' directly to last page.
                  No, it does not work that way.
                  Sorry.



                  Related to..."You are not cutting the edge of science here..."

                  My answer is: We will see...

                  Goodbye and good luck

                  Ufopolitics
                  Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                  • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                    Hey EMJunkie,

                    You landed here for your first time...asking for lots of info, my friend, that it IS ALL HERE, on the posts.
                    The OD is here, the original Coil also description with AWG, the Oscillator in great detail, plus pictures, diagrams, etc.
                    I had specified the Original Coil WAS NOT BIFILAR, but You want to 'jump' to Bifilar arrangement without trying the original set-up first.

                    Look at above post, some people are stock in a simple LM317 Voltage Regulator that is also everywhere on the net...However, I took my time, took apart my oscillator to go to the newest components I added...that I do not have to remember off hand, since I have moved to better oscillators -also discussed here- However, I did made a new graphic and post it here...and it is not 'precisely' a "Hand Drawing".

                    You wanna know many parameters you could find out yourself with the first simple test I provided here.

                    I am sorry but You did not go over all the posts here, not only from me, but from everybody else here.
                    Asking about OD?...We discussed that with even pictures here.
                    AWG?...We also went over that over and over...
                    Input specs?...also
                    and so on.

                    I know also about the Rules on Forums, my friend, and It is not polite, to be asking for things are already written here...just because youi 'decided' to 'land' directly to last page.
                    No, it does not work that way.
                    Sorry.



                    Related to..."You are not cutting the edge of science here..."

                    My answer is: We will see...

                    Goodbye and good luck

                    Ufopolitics
                    Trust me UFO This is not my first time, I have traveled under many different names, but if I remember this was your first time?

                    I was still polite to you - so I deserved a real answer?

                    You may be asking why I said about Flouros?

                    Because the Inert Gas, typically Argon, gets excited by the high frequency and only small transients are enough to light them at high frequency. This requires very low power and is definitely not an indication of power output by the rated Fluorescent tube ratings.

                    Best of Luck UFOPolitics - EMJunkie

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                    • Originally posted by EMJunkie View Post
                      Trust me UFO This is not my first time, I have traveled under many different names, but if I remember this was your first time?

                      I was still polite to you - so I deserved a real answer?

                      You may be asking why I said about Flouros?

                      Because the Inert Gas, typically Argon, gets excited by the high frequency and only small transients are enough to light them at high frequency. This requires very low power and is definitely not an indication of power output by the rated Fluorescent tube ratings.

                      Best of Luck UFOPolitics - EMJunkie
                      Besides, there is also about ten other people asking for more information also so no you have not provieded the information at all!

                      It would have been quicker for you to just give the information than grunt and moan because youre too busy, dont you think!

                      I cant believe the arogance here - if you want to do this - give people the information - how hard is that?

                      It actually should have all been given in your first post - correctly and clearly for people to follow!

                      ...
                      Last edited by EMJunkie; 03-12-2012, 09:12 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                        Hey EMJunkie,

                        You wanna know many parameters you could find out yourself with the first simple test I provided here.
                        You have started a thread, this is nine pages of nothing - Time wasting - No information except Vin = 36v.

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                        • @Ufopolitics
                          @Netica
                          @BBen

                          Hello guys! I did a simulation of the updated voltage regulator, but the output voltage was only about 2,6V ... so i corrected the resistors values (see picture below).
                          Now it looks fine... and this time I added a load of 6mA (the potentiometer) to simulate the maximum consumption of the 555 timer circuit.

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                          • @Kapierenundkopieren
                            Thanks!
                            Output voltage is 1.25(1+2000/240)= 11,67V, that's more like it.
                            Bert

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                            • Originally posted by kapierenundkopieren View Post
                              @Ufopolitics
                              @Netica
                              @BBen

                              Hello guys! I did a simulation of the updated voltage regulator, but the output voltage was only about 2,6V ... so i corrected the resistors values (see picture below).
                              Now it looks fine... and this time I added a load of 6mA (the potentiometer) to simulate the maximum consumption of the 555 timer circuit.

                              Thanks Kapierenundkopieren!!

                              My mistake was on one of the resistors, the parallel to the diode, second from left to right was 220 Ohms instead of 2.2K...The brown was kind of faded out and look like red...sorry about that.

                              Anyways I am glad the problem got resolved...just need to hear Netica also solve the regulator.

                              Cheers

                              Ufopolitics
                              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                              • No reason to be rude here EMJunkie since UFO is being very helpful and giving all for free. You are starting to look like your intentions are to be disruptive to this thread.

                                I've built power supplies around LM317's before and found it helpful to use a variable resistor (pot) in the voltage setting position so voltage can be adjusted to what you need under load and with any particular set of other values that may be off a bit in the circuit.
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