My Motors got me to Tap into Radiant Energy

[bobfrench@fastmail.fm]

new thread

UFO,

Please start a new thread so that this one can stay focused on Step 1.

I will post results from yesterday when I charged batteries.. don't have time till this afternoon.

Bob

[Ufopolitics]

Yes Bob. I agree with new thread also

UFO,

Please start a new thread so that this one can stay focused on Step 1.

I will post results from yesterday when I charged batteries.. don't have time till this afternoon.

Bob

Hello Bob,

Yes, I will make a new thread just for the Motors and Generators (Electrodynamics) as soon as videos and all diagrams, 3D CAD's are ready...and of course the prototypes...

Agree, it is better not to mix both fields together, so leave this Thread as the Primary for controllers and Coils structures.

Bob if you could when having the coil on and output lamp fully lit...get a couple of solid steel bars, round one of each ends...long enough as they allow you to grab on your hands while you introduce one at each end towards center of coil air core (take the 'Paracore' out)...The purpose is that you could actually get the "feeling" of the strength of both fields...it is a weird feeling, because once in...it is very hard to pull them apart once they have made contact..however, both bars allow you to maintain a certain positioning of air gap between them...then you will feel the very strong vibrations...
The easy way to get them out while on, is by sliding both together from one side...I imagine in your coil, the strength should be incredibly high.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[ewizard]

I am glad to see so many having success with this. I agree a new thread would be best for motors/generators but with a link to this thread in your first post so others may see in general what has been done already by UFOpolitics and others here.

bobfrench, To post pictures here is easy - just don't use the 'quick reply' option but use the advanced reply. Once you have an advanced reply open look to the bottom of that page for a button labeled 'Manage Attachments'. Click that and you'll see an upload button. Click that and the rest should be easy.

[GlenWV]

Bob's pics & drawing

@Bob:
Great job & great pics! Your drawing will be very helpful.

@UFO:

Thank you for posting your work here. I appreciate it.

Have wound a coil: 9 strands of 16 gauge wire (litzed) left over from another project and seriesed 2 strands to get in at around 2 ohms.

I built the power supply unit using one of the later, updated, drawings.

Now, to wait on the pots and a few caps to come in and then we'll join the party!!

glen

[ZeropointEnergy]

new thread on motors

Hello Bob,

Yes, I will make a new thread just for the Motors and Generators (Electrodynamics) as soon as videos and all diagrams, 3D CAD's are ready...and of course the prototypes...

Agree, it is better not to mix both fields together, so leave this Thread as the Primary for controllers and Coils structures.

Bob if you could when having the coil on and output lamp fully lit...get a couple of solid steel bars, round one of each ends...long enough as they allow you to grab on your hands while you introduce one at each end towards center of coil air core (take the 'Paracore' out)...The purpose is that you could actually get the "feeling" of the strength of both fields...it is a weird feeling, because once in...it is very hard to pull them apart once they have made contact..however, both bars allow you to maintain a certain positioning of air gap between them...then you will feel the very strong vibrations...
The easy way to get them out while on, is by sliding both together from one side...I imagine in your coil, the strength should be incredibly high.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Hey UFO,

I agree 100% with the others that a seperate thread on the "Motor/Generator" functions of utilizing with Radiant energy is needed.
I was thinking about putting this mod on my Kromrey converter when the thread is up and running.
That is questions/experiments for a later date

Regards
Zero

[bobfrench@fastmail.fm]

2nd test -charging batteries

UFO,

Yesterday a friend and I took 6 identical, old, 12v, 115Ah batteries and made two 36v banks. We set up bank A (the better three) to power the device to charge bank B. Bank A was 37.00v at rest and Bank B was 34.94v.

My lowest frequency was 133Hz (I need to change my cap and add another 100k pot w/ the one controling the frequency) and the duty cycle was at 13%. We started at 2A draw on Primary.

As I raised the frequency, the charge batteries jumped up to to 38.4v then dropped evenly to 36.27v and started up again (at about. 01v per 2 secs.) until after 2.5 hrs. they were up to 39.94v. At this point we stopped the charging and let everytying rest for 10 minutes. So far everything seems very normal for this kind of charging, except that the device appears to be very stable and powerful...pushing the batterioes right on up continuously. The Primary initially dropped to 36.20v and stayed there the whole time, then recovered to 36.98v during the 10 minute rest.

Then we switched A and B and charged the opposite way for about 20 minutes. We stopped and rested things again, swapped the banks back and started charging bank B again for another 20 minutes and stopped.

After letting the battries rest for a few hours (in order to get truer readings) bank A was at. 37.07 and bank B was at 38.32v. BOTH BATTERY BANKS WERE HIGHER!

These were not very good batteries, either. One of bank B batteries was at 10.69v in the beginning.

I like that. Another interesting note: The amp draw on the Primary dropped from 2A to 1.5A as I went UP in frequency (from 133Hz to about 550Hz).

Also the devices seems to adapt to the situation as does Bedini's machines do. When used to run lights I got the frequency as high as 919Hz, could only get up to about 550Hz when charging the batteries. So ther is some feedback happenning and I guess impedence matching of sorts (?).

The MOSFETs heated up to the low 90's and the "monster coil" to 128 degrees. All went very well...no blown components.

A good time was had by all.

Bob

[Ufopolitics]

Great Testing Bob!!

UFO,

Yesterday a friend and I took 6 identical, old, 12v, 115Ah batteries and made two 36v banks. We set up bank A (the better three) to power the device to charge bank B. Bank A was 37.00v at rest and Bank B was 34.94v.

My lowest frequency was 133Hz (I need to change my cap and add another 100k pot w/ the one controling the frequency) and the duty cycle was at 13%. We started at 2A draw on Primary.

As I raised the frequency, the charge batteries jumped up to to 38.4v then dropped evenly to 36.27v and started up again (at about. 01v per 2 secs.) until after 2.5 hrs. they were up to 39.94v. At this point we stopped the charging and let everytying rest for 10 minutes. So far everything seems very normal for this kind of charging, except that the device appears to be very stable and powerful...pushing the batterioes right on up continuously. The Primary initially dropped to 36.20v and stayed there the whole time, then recovered to 36.98v during the 10 minute rest.

Then we switched A and B and charged the opposite way for about 20 minutes. We stopped and rested things again, swapped the banks back and started charging bank B again for another 20 minutes and stopped.

After letting the battries rest for a few hours (in order to get truer readings) bank A was at. 37.07 and bank B was at 38.32v. BOTH BATTERY BANKS WERE HIGHER!

These were not very good batteries, either. One of bank B batteries was at 10.69v in the beginning.

I like that. Another interesting note: The amp draw on the Primary dropped from 2A to 1.5A as I went UP in frequency (from 133Hz to about 550Hz).

Also the devices seems to adapt to the situation as does Bedini's machines do. When used to run lights I got the frequency as high as 919Hz, could only get up to about 550Hz when charging the batteries. So ther is some feedback happenning and I guess impedence matching of sorts (?).

The MOSFETs heated up to the low 90's and the "monster coil" to 128 degrees. All went very well...no blown components.

A good time was had by all.

Bob

Hello Bob,

Yes the System does charges batteries (I had tried only Lead-Acid, since LiPo's require some sort of "Religious Cult"... ...However I had not performed such a great test as you have done, that was excellent Bob!!

And letting them seat at rest for a while is the only way to know the charge are not a 'superficial' one...Grrreat!!

Yes you are right, the System tends to do some kind of balancing related to the loads, and the start up the Amperage increases to then decrease once time-load on had gotten to a certain point...

Now imagine that we could put the great strength of the electromagnetic fields taking place at that Coil center core...to turn a rotor and induce the rotor's Coils at same time it is developing a torque and speed...using the "Primary Coil" as this Coil we are all pulsing now, but as a Pulsed Stator for the motor...All Coils connected to Output via Diodes set up...

I have done that also...is beyond expectations...so get ready very soon.

I am preparing an "Open Motor Set Up" so we could see whatever is taking place inside, plus changing different type of Rotors and of Coil-Stators set up...

I am pretty sure We will have it very soon...a pretty solid set-up here and in the next thread.

I have done it...and it does wonderful things...


I wanted to tell you something else Bob, You have been incredible!!
You came lastly here, after taking over three days reading the whole thread...Ordered parts...got it all hook up in a matter of a "couple of days"...and superseded even my own set Up by enhancing your Coil and oscillation circuit from the latest and better contributions from this great "Electronic Guys"that have posted here...I, have not done the LM339 or the LM393 circuit as of now, being me, the creator of this thread...

Amazing Bob...like We say in U.S..."Man, You really don't fool around dontcha?


Anyways, I am really grateful that you walked into this thread Bob!!


Warm regards my friend!


Cheers and Regards to all the rest ...May We All have a Cigar now??...

Goodnite

Ufopolitics

[Netica]

Hi all,

So glad to see that others have started to get involved with learning and replicating UFO'S work.

Hi Bob, you have said that you have a quad-filar coil around a Paracore, I don't know what a Paracore is could you please explain it?

It seems that multifiler coils are the best way to go for now.
Hi UFO, just wondering if you use the multifiler coils in the your motor set ups as well?

netica

[Ufopolitics]

Hello Netica

Hi all,

So glad to see that others have started to get involved with learning and replicating UFO'S work.

Hi Bob, you have said that you have a quad-filar coil around a Paracore, I don't know what a Paracore is could you please explain it?

It seems that multifiler coils are the best way to go for now.
Hi UFO, just wondering if you use the multifiler coils in the your motor set ups as well?

netica

Hello Netica,

Thank You, Yes, I am very glad the System was upgraded with a Quadfilar by Bob French, resulting lower pulses required from our "side", the hot side, as well as a better oscillator circuit with the LM339 (Dual LM393)...

Bob explained about the Paracore material in one of his first posts here, it is some kind of a compounded alloy made of different materials, But mainly made of Paramagnetic Materials.
The system works also fine with a regular soft steel bar that could be treated, for better results by exceeding its Curie Temperature and cooling it suddenly. This takes a very high percentage of its "Magnetic Memory" required factor to perform better under this very high and intense switching magnetic fields.

However it seems the Paracore has all this properties and more naturally...

Yes Netica, I use the Bifilar in the Stators and in the Rotor of my Motor, so far I have built a mid size one, but planning to get a bigger size made in the future.

Regards

Ufopolitics

[prochiro]

Black Sand

UFO and all;
Bob is putting some finishing touches on his system and I have a preliminary PCB for it thus far. What I wanted to add is that I have used black sand which is the fallout from mining. It is collected with a magnet and sold on ebay. I think that Bobs paracore material is simular or the same, not exactally positive. It holds no memory and heat in the coil is controlled much better as well as being kind of a middle point between iron core and air core. This is cast using strong magnets on each end to allign material length wise.
UFO----See what you have started. Cant wait untill we get into motor control as I will be there.
Dana

[bobfrench@fastmail.fm]

Thanks to all.

UFO and everyone,

Thank you for everything. I am not much of an inventor and I don't know much about electronis, but I am one heck of an innovator. So I am grateful to Cinan, Mad Scientist, Torpex, Dana and especially UFO for all the fine information that has mad it possible for me to participate in this great adventure.

Thank you!

I am having fun.

Bob

[Ufopolitics]

Hello Dana!!

UFO and all;
Bob is putting some finishing touches on his system and I have a preliminary PCB for it thus far. What I wanted to add is that I have used black sand which is the fallout from mining. It is collected with a magnet and sold on ebay. I think that Bobs paracore material is simular or the same, not exactally positive. It holds no memory and heat in the coil is controlled much better as well as being kind of a middle point between iron core and air core. This is cast using strong magnets on each end to allign material length wise.
UFO----See what you have started. Cant wait untill we get into motor control as I will be there.
Dana

Hey Dana,

Sorry I have started all this!!...and you have not seen nothing yet...

It seems that the Paracore material will do much better than even "not memorized" steel.
The basic requirements are not to "remember" about last time magnetic field orientation...and to keep a lower temperature...
According to my tests, the regular steel will get very hot due to the excessively fast and drastic magnetic fields shifting polarities, even after heating-cooling-magnet process, still ,this changes makes the molecular structures to go crazy inside...
There may be a need to be able to fuse this material and make it as sheet lamination's, in order to be cut via Water Jet the shapes of future rotors and stators configurations.

Be patient...in the mean time take a look at the new Farmhand thread about motor modifications...


Cheers and Regards to all

Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Keep Having FUN!!

UFO and everyone,

Thank you for everything. I am not much of an inventor and I don't know much about electronis, but I am one heck of an innovator. So I am grateful to Cinan, Mad Scientist, Torpex, Dana and especially UFO for all the fine information that has mad it possible for me to participate in this great adventure.

Thank you!

I am having fun.

Bob

Hello Bob!,

You will keep having fun there...
I have got a couple of suggestions for you to try, since you have the system ready and running...
make a smaller spool-air cored (plastic or fiberglass) that you could insert inside the Monster Coil...turn there a few thousands of fine wire...I did it with 33 awg, I made One of 8000 turns running along the Coil vertical axis...and another one horizontal plane of 4000 turns...both work fine...
And then, just apply pulses, slowly though...and please, do NOT connect it to any meter!...it may arc inside and blow them...If using a Scope, just use the probe (not ground) or will fry it also...
Get a Xenon "U" tube (400 Volts)...and watch the beautiful plasma arc running from one electrode to another one...
Also get a High Pressure Discharge Sodium HID...35 or 50 Watts...and watch the arcs glow...
Try it with the Paracore inserted inside Secondary...and watch it increase...
Now the current produced there DOES SHOCK!...so handle it carefully!

Neons will glow...but at very low, low frequencies...just a bit of a turn will blow them cracking glass...so careful there

Last one...Have you tried to run a Brushed motor there yet?
Please do, and check the Brushes and commutator elements...barely a small spark if none...and check temperature also versus running it with just Hot electricity...

Warm Regards

Ufopolitics

[torpex]

Hi all,

I'm sorry, I am a little busy and I could have answered before.

Thank You Bob, Thank You Dana, Thank You Torpex (I am sorry I have not answered back your message, pero te queria dar una sorpresa...[in Spanish]) , thank You Cinan (great electronics man!!), Thank You ZeropointEnergy (from first time you always believed me, and I really appreciate that), Thank You ALL!!

I am enjoying a lot with this experiment, really it is spectacular, the best of everything is your disposition to share and to suggest all the times, thank you for everything. Although I not yet am aware of the baby's potential, it has still to do a lot of proofs

Hola amigo Ok, no problem, I already know that the message arrived. Thank you very much for your attention and time

Congratulations for your new avatar, he is very nice and besides very appropriate.

I agree too, other thread is separately better.

I keep on working in the coil, it goes advancing slowly:


@ZeropointEnergy
The video is very interesting and the light of neon looks very good. I have not tried with so low frequencies. What is your power source?

@Bob
Congratulations for the results and the photos, very interesting. I would like to know what you have used configuration to charge batteries and that charging ratio is obtained.

[larryross]

First I want to say a great big THANK YOU to UFO for this thread. I am new to this forum and just found this thread. You are covering exactly what I have been looking for. Eager to learn what you have done. It is very generous of you to share your hard work with us.

This is the most interesting thread on this subject I have ever read. It was very annoying at the beginning when Framhand and some of the others tried to wast everyone's time with their ignorance. When I got to your post where you said you were going to leave this thread I almost had a heart attack (he can't do that I thought) so I jumped ahead to see if you did. I am so glad you were able to see those guys for what they were and continued. Well back to where I left off to get caught up.

Again thanks.

Regards
Larry