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  • JohnS,

    I get components from Newark, Thai Shine, Jameco mostly, sometimes Digi-Key, Electronic Goldmine, and RMCybernetics. Magnet wire from Surplus Sale of Nebraska usually.

    There real deals on E-Bay quite often for things that are more common (transistors, resistors, diodes, NE-2s, connectors, etc.).

    Bob

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    • JohnS,

      Please name your frequency generator. It is so good and needs an identification. Maybe "JSFG" (John Stone Frequency Generator).

      Bob

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      • Originally posted by bobfrench@fastmail.fm View Post
        ...Please name your frequency generator. It is so good and needs an identification. Maybe "JSFG" (John Stone Frequency Generator).
        ...
        I hesitate to name it this way because it is not my invention. I bought it as a a kit from ELV and presented the circuit along explanations.
        The main advantage is that it gets rid of all issues regrding nonlinerar charge and discharge of timing capacitors.
        • A current source (transistor most left in schematic) charges the timing capacitor straight linerly
        • A short circuit discharges the timing capacitor instantly so no nonlinear property is visible.
        • Thus we get a sawtooth signal being dependent in frequency linearly to the adjustment of the timing pot.
        • Thus we get a duty cycle being dependent linerly to the adjustment of the PWM pot.

        The clue of this circuit is the building of modular and dedicated blocks to a certain function only.
        All other circuits presented are good as well but they suffer on some drawbacks due to saving of components (soem cents only). Thus they are have neither good linerity nor can they be debugged / repaired with simple tools.
        Back to your concern: We could name it Current Source controlled Frequency Generator CSFG

        BTW: The hybrid modules are quite expensive and difficult to get. It might be a chance to negitiate for special price for pivate research.
        I will have a closer look to your suggestions for RF FETs.

        Microsemi: unfortunately 182$
        • DRF1200 560W 30MHz 15V/1000V Driver and High Voltage RF MOSFET
        • DRF1201 2000W 30MHz 15V/1000V Driver and High Voltage/High Power RF MOSFET
        • DRF1202 2000 30MHz 15V/500V Driver and High Power RF MOSFET

        IXYS: about 52$
        IXZ4DF12N100
        Experts spend hours a day in order to question their doing while others stopped thinking feeling they were professionals.

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        • Info

          Patrick Kelly's (thanks Patrick for all your work!)
          http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt2.html
          and
          http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt3.html

          Bert
          Last edited by bbem; 10-26-2012, 06:30 PM.

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          • high speed

            Hello John and Bob,

            I'm not sure what your experiments are that are being considered for these high speed PWMs but for diodes used at the coil output (as per ufopolitics) you may want to consider low capacitance, ultra fast diodes, faster than we have been using so far. The energy from a discharging inductance is seeking capacitance so the diode capacitance might have a large effect on the output, but probably more important to point out is that we are talking about speeds now which greatly exceed the switching speed of our currently suggested diodes.

            The fastest diode reverse recovery time used openly is 35ns. It's not a problem to get faster diodes, silicon carbide type schottky diodes are faster than 15ns, here is a part for a max rrt of less than 10ns Infineon D02N60C SiC Schottky Diode and you will find that from your suppliers that they should be reasonably priced at $2-4 even up to high amperage ratings (Infineon is not the only maker but they list the reverse recovery time in the spec sheet).

            These PWM options are starting to look pretty pricey and since they are surpassing every part we have used up to now and probably including our coil impedance has been surpassed. We may want to consider the rest of the parts that would need some upgrading. Tesla used stout wire for his primaries and was using the same rapid rise/fall time switching principle and that is why I say we may even have exceeded our coil performance.

            Simple problems, but faster diodes I think will be a must so I felt I should bring this up.

            Best wishes,
            matt

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            • Thank you Matt.

              My next experiment needs a ON time of 1uF or less, so I'm not going to need the max. speed out of the PWM that we're planning. But John is suggesting that build the unit to be very robust and fast enough for future unseen experiments. I agree with him and intend to follow his lead here.

              Fast diodes are a must and I appreciate your input, buddy. How are your things going, any breakthroughs?

              While waiting for the parts for building John's frequency generator, CSFG, I built a very small Bedini tri-filar wheeled unit that works great. The coil is three 30AWG, 145' each, 1/4" R60 core. The wheel is 3" VCR head with 4 doubled up (total of 1/4" thick) ferrite magnets 3/8 x 3/8. One MJE13007G. Based on P.48 in FEG book. I'm conditioning a 4Ah battery and will try 9v cordless drill batteries.

              I just received the parts and am starting to build John"s CSFG.

              Thanks again,

              Bob

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              • Hi Bob,

                That sounds like a nice motor you have setup, I may take some advice from you and work on building my own out of whatever stuff I can get a hold of.

                I have been pretty limited on motors and balanced/solid parts for working with motors so it's been pretty slow with most of the work to be done here. I tried a local appliance repair shop but they don't get brushed motors anymore and the scrap yards don't sell them, they just heap them. So far my only affordable option for the moment is car starters and I'm not sure that is the direction I want to go. I'm going to go around looking in a couple days to figure that situation out though.

                So lately, using the PWM built for ufopolitics systems I have gone more towards a Tesla coil system (using the reversed biased diodes from UFOPolitics). I have been working with the single wire transmission. Using the single wire principle I have been attaching what I guess are essentially resonator coils and observing voltage gains between the various coil arrangements. The coils are using no capacitance except for what comes from the wire during voltage transients.

                So far it's nothing special that I have observed, no personal break through anyway, just 'phenomena' observation, and it has mostly looked like a crappy Tesla coil build but that is sort of the idea, start at square 1 and start modifying to see what does what.

                Here is a pic of the coils I have been working with, the big coil with the smaller one in/on top is one setup that has shown the most promise so far, the base of the coil is connected to the + hot side of the primary (primary not shown) the connection is made through a single reverse bias diode.

                matt
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                Last edited by codeboundfuture; 10-27-2012, 08:16 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                  First, I would like to say hello to all of you, I am new to this site, so take it "easy" on me... I was referred here to expose about my findings by Mr. Peter Lindeman. Who I admire much, and got to read his articles out there on the web and agree with him in a complete way in his ways of thinking related to Free Energy.
                  To tell you first and briefly about me...I have been involved in Electro Dynamics since 1989, and have developed many different types of Motors and Generators from structural different embodiments, to the fields of electronics controllers and source converters of such machines.
                  In other words, I am not a newbie on this, Therefore, I do not make the typical errors and omissions of readings Parameters Required, or analysis of behaviors of related issues, getting or leading to the Wrong Conclusions... that's not me, I mean, I am not perfect either, We humans all make mistakes.

                  So here I go about this:

                  While developing one of the Types of Motors Generators Designs, I have been recently working on, and building different prototypes sizes (smalls, mediums and large), I was finding certain readings containing abnormal current behavior. And this type of Motor-Generator do makes more at output than what they get In. However, my point in this thread is not about the discussion of this Motors, but, I will tell you that I use the Counter EMF completely on assistance of the rotation, not against, like Physics says it always must, and that would be "impossible". This Motors are based on permanent magnets(PM) and Brush-Commutator DC types. And this is just as the development move into a higher stage, they will use other type of switching systems.
                  However, I had too intense sparks and got shocked outside its frame when I made contact with my hands and accidentally, touched one of the outputs terminals while in motion...I was working with a 36 volts machine...around 6.3 Amps Lipo Batteries, small prototype...so, NO, it could not be such high shocks from higher currents, even the output been over 80 Volts...still the amperage was remaining around the input parameters...to get that kind of Transients Sparks.
                  So, I started this search on them...trying to correct the problem and also the curiosity to find this wired source of energy...but then I found that I could create very Heavy Sparks and very robust and continuous by getting the two terminals I was shocked with, to short out...
                  Then, I took them apart again, went to my CAD programs, sketches, the 3D Animations...of Coils, Stators to Commutators relations...I mean dissect them in pieces.
                  And I really do not like to keep on going on the research part narration (basically because you will love for me to get to the point... ) and it was a lot of reproductions I made replicating the exact models, but at Static Configurations...
                  When I finally found the "Issue" I could not believe it...
                  My Motors-Generators (meaning 'essentially' their Rotor Coil Structure to Commutator via Brushes) were developing a "Behind my Wires" secondary electricity of a very ,extremely powerful characteristics running through them, at all times. Then I realized and understood, the times when I turned off completely the Oscillations of my Controller (I was using a Drain (Motor Negative) based on an N-Channel MOSFET's arrangement that I had designed and built) so that was impossible!...once that I turned off my oscillator chip from the Regulator side that feeds it, it kills,cuts, every single current coming from Source...and a small Electrolytic Cap was set on Input only, before Voltage Regulator stage. However it "literally" melted a heavy duty Mica-Copper Commutator to almost fuse it with the next ones. Before getting to this discovery, I would have never, figure it out what happened there.
                  This type of motor design have many characteristics that others in the market do not have, one of them is the fact of Never needing to Reverse the Electromagnetic Fields Polarity in order to achieve rotation, the fields just Turn Off or Turn On, according to the Oscillator Signals, and I achieve this, by the Coils Design inside of them. This design allows that at T-Off of the Square Wave (Circuit Opens) Rotor Idles, and keep going for nano seconds by inertia and the last magnetic interaction residues to the other Stator Pole where then is reversed "naturally" or by what The Physics call Back Electromotive Force, and this is How the C EMF Assist instead of "Oppose" to rotation.
                  This particular design allows the current to flow in a very organized and friendly flow that makes the consumption reduced to minimum values when rotation is constant, and even in higher acceleration times.
                  Not like anything else out there, where currents are in a complete War one against each other inside this Machines, whether being a DC, Brushed or Brushless or any AC Type, that because of the current natural behavior stays constantly colliding into each others at Positive- Negative Cycles.
                  Then I read Mr. Tom Bearden...about the Dipole Open, and all about the Free Energy concepts out there...and Nikola Tesla back in the 1800's tapping into Radiant Energy...and kept going..till I got to the essence of my Discovery...Then I could Not even believe it myself...what was what I was getting there.
                  I know many of you are going to laugh, I laughed myself...I did research the history all, my friends, because I do not like just to get my Lab results naked outside...I went all the way to Maxwell equations...to Lorentz changes of the Asymmetrical fields along with Albert Einstein...where they disregarded the Aether as been part of the Interchange with the Electromagnetic fields...then the Electric Engineering took a wrong course towards building the best way to keep killing this energy...to keep teaching new Engineers this are Parasitical and Transient currents We All have to Kill by "Choke", by Flywheel Diodes and Snubbers, and as many "Patches" (just to cite a few) as they could get their hands on.
                  But I will get here to the very bottom of this...discussion, or may I say 'Disclosure'?... I had found, it has always been 'present' between Us all, in every coil of enameled wire, in every inductor, in every Transformer, Motor, Generator, no matter type, or design...The Main Laws of Electrodynamics were sold to Evil...and we all believe them, we swallowed them...
                  And I really feel I am putting my knowledge and experience of many years at doubt here...with what I am about to reveal, and please, at any time I am trying to minimize, or underestimate the work of so many bright Scientists we have and had, and Engineers, developers, as all of You here, like me, looking for the Fountain of the Radiant Energy, The Cold Electricity or the Divine Force of Nature converted for our use as Energy Source...
                  It is the Counter Electromagnetic Force, the Back EMF, the one who "Opposes" very conveniently to our motors and generators desired motion sense...so we have no other choice than to keep using the Gas or Diesel Engines as Prime Movers to Generators...And Motors that do not have the way to compete to the fast and reliable Gas New Engines.
                  To all of You that are into Lab and practice work...that like to make your own things...solder, cut make weld..make electronic diagrams and form great circuits...that actually you do not need that much knowledge, really...just to make an Oscillator a Coil of wire (Core less [Plastic]is better than solid or laminated steel, but they will also work) and I will answer the reason why, during the thread on the comments) a couple of Fast Switching diodes...Meters, Digital Oscilloscopes(if you have it, if not some meters reads Hertz, you do need at least Two)...and let's do a very simple test...
                  Hook Up the Diodes to the Coil Inputs (No Secondary for Now, it works great with a secondary, actually even better, but for sake of simplicity, as a test only lets do it Simple)
                  The Diodes will be at BOTH ENDS of Coil, make sure you know which side is North and South at Core, according to turns sense (Right Hand Rule)...Ok, the Diodes are there to Block our Input to get out, so we "Input" our Positive-Negative Oscillating Signal before Both Diodes (DIRECT TO COIL), and we read outputs from outer diodes end...What they do besides blocking our current out, is filter our Radiant Energy from our transients, and parasites (hehe, the other way around right?)
                  Then set readers anywhere to monitor this system, set the Hertz Meters on Your Input Signal (before diodes) and also would be good to monitor your consumption with a Volts meter and Also the same Volts-Hertz at Output (make sure your meters have "Over Load Capabilities" (I melted a few chinese ones) or you will fry them, basically at output. Read Batteries or Power Source, and have ready a Load, I use Fluorescent BULBS (Self Ballasted) 120 Volts...65 Watts or Higher...or less, just be very careful when tuning the oscillations Up, or you will blow them, and they contain Mercury (Hg) not good for Human body...Now , according to the set up each one have..would be different, but I used Batteries, Lipo or Lithium Ion 3 packs would be like 36 volts (I have tons of Chargers and this batteries,...but others are fine too, I also used regular Lead Acid, even better they get charged within the system, since you guys and gals are gonna make "Overunity" here.
                  Below I will post a Rough Diagram I did to show my friends in Facebook and You Tube...
                  I will be here to answer any questions.
                  Thanks for reading me and excuse me for writing such a long post!!...but I wanted to express my knowledge, and how I got to this by complete accident... before dumping this 'Bomb' on you all!!
                  Have a nice evening





                  Lots of radiant energy stored in this setup. Can you show how it can be used to charge a 12 volt battery while its powering a circuit?

                  SATELLITE GENERATOR - MAGNETIC POWER - YouTube

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                  • Matt,

                    Good to hear back from ya. Here's a little updzte on my little charger. Last night I ran it all night with two12v, 13Ah batteries in parallel as the Primary and two of the same in series (24v) being charged. Basically a wash...Primary went down .01v, charge up. 02v. So this morning I changed the Primary to 24v. After 30a minutes the Primary was up. 02v and the charge was up. 05v. An hour later the Primary had dropped. 01v (still. 01v above starting voltage) and the charge was up another. 05v. Now this is smallest charger I've ever built and it's charging two 13Ah very respectably on 100mA of 24v.

                    I am going to post the circuit on Photobucket (Bob French's album)a today. I finally (after 5 yrs. know how to tune a Bedini wheel machine. Run it at one pulse per magnet pass and turn the input amperage down until it goes to two pulses back it off till it just gives you one pulse. That's it! Also when you replace the pot with a fixed resistance, make the resistance 1 or 2) ohms less to keep it from dropping out of resonance as it fluctuates. (I don' know why couldn't have been standard procedure on the Monopole groups?!)

                    Good luck,

                    Bob

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                    • Hi, just to prevent confusion:
                      The very first setups for OU were with mcheanical switches / commutators. Those perform very fast. If we try to get similar efects with electronics it seems to be essential to have steep edges as well - as those great brains in the past claimed.
                      If I build a pulsing stage with very steep edges - of course it can perform high frequencies but that is not the goal. The goal is to have steep edges even if I pulse with 1 KHz. After all I learned OU will be fostered by steep edges and high voltage.
                      What I discussed with bobfrench is somewhat of topic to the goal of this thread - so don't be conused. We discussed the direct pulsing from one battery to another.
                      If the pulser is done with 10A ...20A gate drivers along RF FETs we get a very rugged and universal fast pulser suitable for all future experiments.

                      Do not be confused by 10A...20A. That is the real requirement for speeding up gates. Any FET drain source path is super fast (0.1ns). In order to make use of this fast switches the divine provision set a gate capacitance in order to be charged before. The charge / discharge needs to be done within some nanoseconds. Unfortunately the drain / gate capacitance vomits some charge to the gate as well - but opposing (vicious provision).
                      (Explanation: At beginning of switch on the drain goes down and makes away with some charge from the gate and we need to replace it. At beginning of switch off the voltage rises at drain and it vomits its stolen charge back in the gate and we need to discard it additionally)
                      If we add all effects we need to charge / discharge up to 10nF within nanoseconds. The rest is simple math in order to get the requirement of huge amps as mentioned before - but for very short time only.

                      All of you will get a superiour, fast and cool design if you apply the hints I gave to bobfrench.

                      Do not underestimate the cool desing of Bedini SSG. We get there very steep edges with cheap components. Of course there are some serious drawbacks but it is very smart to give such a circuit that can be built by any laymen!!!!!
                      rgds John
                      Last edited by JohnStone; 10-27-2012, 06:39 PM.
                      Experts spend hours a day in order to question their doing while others stopped thinking feeling they were professionals.

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                      • Great Bedini

                        Bob,

                        That is a well tuned system from your description. Such a great improvement from doubling the input voltage, looks like you are onto something.

                        Here is something I found a little while back, I don't know about the ringing that he tunes for but the REAC idea I thought was a really interesting use for otherwise unusable lead acid batteries. Ossie Callanan - a bedini style system

                        Thank you for the information it's been quite inspiring, and I will be using it to get a motor going. I will also be looking forward to your circuit images.

                        Thanks again,
                        matt
                        Last edited by codeboundfuture; 10-28-2012, 12:14 AM.

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                        • Dana,

                          Here's my Photobucket link:

                          Pictures by bobfrench - Photobucket

                          Bob

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                          • Ozzie C.'s circuit

                            Matt,

                            Ozzie's charger sounds cool. I think that I can retro fit my little charger that way and see how it compares. The use of sulphated batteries does not excite me. Didn't you guys come up with a substitute for that in the 3 Battery system?

                            He definitely has a different take on getting the radiant...I hope it's better. Thanks for the heads up.

                            I'm still building John's freq. gen. During the week I have very few hours of good light and I hate soldering in low light conditions.

                            Good luck,

                            Bob

                            Originally posted by codeboundfuture View Post
                            Bob,

                            That is a well tuned system from your description. Such a great improvement from doubling the input voltage, looks like you are onto something.

                            Here is something I found a little while back, I don't know about the ringing that he tunes for but the REAC idea I thought was a really interesting use for otherwise unusable lead acid batteries. Ossie Callanan - a bedini style system

                            Thank you for the information it's been quite inspiring, and I will be using it to get a motor going. I will also be looking forward to your circuit images.

                            Thanks again,
                            matt

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                            • Circuit Protection

                              @ John Stone
                              I have been going over the JStone- PWM circuit and was wondering how the circuit protection ideas we talked about before are standing. We talked about DC-DC and Opto's and such. How and where should good protection be built in or has the need for them been deleted as of the V2 release? If you have already posted a answer, just return location or rough date. I tested a dc-dc vbsd 1-s12-s15-sip after the pwm and before the fets and signal went back to a saw tooth although volts went up from a 9volt source to 14 volts after that IC, whats up with that?
                              Dana
                              Last edited by prochiro; 11-02-2012, 01:25 AM. Reason: add statement
                              "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
                              Nikola Tesla

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                              • John S or Dana or whoever,

                                Where can 8build find the diections for testing the individual sections of JohnS's frequency generator? I'm getting there.

                                Bob

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