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  • Hello Garry

    I read the PDF last night until I fell asleep, but not from boredom , thanks so much for the work you must have put in to that one. I appreciate everything you wrote, it was very helpful, in trying to understand this. I am glad I took some time to learn a little programming and arduino better, I actually could follow most of that.

    Well, the electrical shop is still running for orders, so my bearings are still on their way. Just to get an idea of the help I get, in terms of pricing, I'm paying $20/bearing from these guys. Canadian bearing was cheapest online, 2 bearings
    Shipped was going to be $110. You see why I need these guys. Once we get these motors running correct, there are lot of plastics companies around here, that all use DC brushed motors, lots of work replacing motors, for these guys, plus they , will have a new shop for big time production, once we get there.

    So now I wait for bearings, and start on machining my coupling, from imperial to drum. I also have another arduino, just came, plus ir digital sensors. So I can take a look at Garry's program, use one arduino to run meccalte, and one for sensors, etc.

    UFO, lets wait to draw rotor, stators, until everything else fits and all maching is done. I'm starting to question whether we should be using coils in stator or rotor drum, and permanent magnets for other, or all coils, or modifying the existing stators, to allow interchangeable coils, or stator material. Maybe I should be setting this up for the ultimate test platform, where we can exchange coils, stator material, rotors.

    I think stepping back for a week or two, get to know arduino a little more intimate, with Garry's new program, might be good. And I need to put 20 ohms on the monster drivers and try those again. And finish winding imperial. Lots of little loose ends to finish..

    Machinealive

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    • @Dana and JohnStone
      Thanks for the info. I had already ordered the voltage regulators and then had doubts. Just wanted to double check before everything got wired into the pcbs. Anyway ordered the pcbs on 8-17 and the parts to populate on 8-31. Have not received the pcbs or even confirmation that they have shipped. Did get an order confirmation and debit to account for 6 pcbs. All of the parts to populate have shipped already. Very fast. Looking forward to putting these together and moving on to the Imperial after I order the sensors for keeping records of everything. Have to take it one step at a time and stay within shoestring budget.

      I noticed that some of the links to the photos did not get posted so I will try out my photo bucket account.

      Here is the goldmine, my third replication prior to assembly,[IMG][/IMG]

      here are some photos of the two replications that I am currently working on
      these will be dual pentagon wind.

      [IMG][/IMG]



      Cheers

      Garry

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      • Wow Garry, that's one long piece of work you got there, glad to see you got the pics to work, well done.

        Warm Regards Cornboy.

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        • @ Gary
          Yes that looks good. The last picture, x4, will be an excellent generator. Before you go any farther, the last set of rotor plates on the right are offset a bit. That must be straightened as wire cutting will result if you can fit them in in the first place. That restriction will limit wire count when winding. Cant wait to see it running as that is exactly the motor and configuration I call my second best as the Imperial is number 1. The pcb boards take 4 weeks at best and they never send any paperwork until shipped. They are also noncommittal when calling or emailing for information.
          Dana
          "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
          Nikola Tesla

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          • Hi Gary
            I am new to the programming thing so please be patient. I was trying to load your last sketch but I can't get it to verify. The IDE does not seem to like this particular piece of the code (#include <sstream>). Any suggestions?

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            • Zardox
              The string library portion is not set up correctly. What version of Arduino are you using. Possible reload Arduino to correct this and use most current version.
              Dana
              "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
              Nikola Tesla

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              • Verification

                @Zardox

                I am using version 1.0.4 of the Arduino Software and it verifies perfectly. Perhaps you are using an older version? Cannot imagine that a newer version would not have the string stream library included. Check the version of Arduino software. I am using windows 7 and my installation is installed at
                C:\\ProgramFiles\Arduino. Hope that helps. Try updating to a newer version if necessary.

                Cheers

                Garry

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                • @Dana
                  Yeah I noticed that in the picture also. The rotors aren't epoxied together at this point, just slipped on the shaft. Good catch though. I will get them properly aligned before wiring.

                  Cheers

                  Garry

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                  • I have version 1:1.0.5 .
                    I have a Linux operating system and it is straight from the repositories. Maybe that is the difference.

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                    • Zardox
                      If I am not mistaken, you must be running the ardino version for linux and also choose 32 or 64 bit version of that to be compatible with your computer. Is all correct in this department?
                      Dana
                      "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
                      Nikola Tesla

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                      • @ Garry
                        I remember that getting that many rotors was a bit hard to align until I put Popsicle sticks in all the slots and rubber bands to hold them tight. Each stick is a bit loose but when all slots are filled, everything lines up easy.
                        Dana
                        "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
                        Nikola Tesla

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                        • sstream and Linux

                          @all
                          Apparently Linux doesn't support the sstream library. Try to delete that line and see if this will compile. I think that I had originally included this library to get additional control over the strings that I had wanted to send from the input devices to the monitor on the desktop. It is unnecessary in the current version and I will see if there is an alternative for Linux users.

                          Cheers

                          Garry

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                          • @ All
                            I have been working on the sensors again and have the ACS709 working all by its self with no problems. Has anyone a complete wiring diagram for both the ACS709 and ADS1115 together and possibly a basic code for this pair as well. The ACS709 works well alone but this configuration is not what we have decided to do. Can someone help as I am having problems reading a lot of text just now because I have poison ivy in my right eye and its swollen shut. Cant read well at all that way.
                            Dana
                            "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
                            Nikola Tesla

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                            • Originally posted by prochiro View Post
                              @ All
                              I have been working on the sensors again and have the ACS709 working all by its self with no problems. Has anyone a complete wiring diagram for both the ACS709 and ADS1115 together and possibly a basic code for this pair as well. The ACS709 works well alone but this configuration is not what we have decided to do. Can someone help as I am having problems reading a lot of text just now because I have poison ivy in my right eye and its swollen shut. Cant read well at all that way.
                              Dana

                              Dana, Poison Ivy in your right eye, Sorry to hear about that; (if you stub your left toe really bad . . . . ) Don't know if that bad bit of humor will help any.
                              Just got my ACS709 current sensor in last week and have not yet had a chance to play with it, (since you have that working in “stand alone” mode, can you share that code ~ it would be a place to start) I have my ADS1115 & TMP102 temperature sensor working together using the following code. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wie0znkfq0agl8o/80SVILHSWf Bet you can guess what I will be working on next. Combining all three.

                              Garry, downloaded RadiantMotorControlVersion0.0.3, have not had a chance to try it on my Imperial, but it does verify OK running Arduino 103 or 104 so Zardox did find an issue with 105 ~ Thanks for all you do.

                              Hitby13kw

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                              • Hello Hitby

                                This is for direct function of ACS709 all thou the picture shows ACS712. Code below is short and sweet with no library needed. The 1000 test average could be much lower, even 10 and still give good readings. If anyone gets these sensors to work...........Please post results here for all.....Thank You.








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                                void setup() {
                                Serial.begin(9600);
                                }
                                void loop() {
                                float average = 0;
                                for(int i = 0; i < 1000; i++) {
                                average = average + (.0264 * analogRead(A0) -13.51) / 1000;
                                delay(1);
                                }
                                Serial.println(average); }


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                                Dana
                                Last edited by prochiro; 09-05-2013, 05:38 PM. Reason: spacing code
                                "Today's scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
                                Nikola Tesla

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