3 Battery Generating System

[Iamnuts]

Find.

I like looking for the latest products, we use lead acid hard, they only last
several weeks and they’re done.
I found this battery and it looks impressive.http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1549657418

[altrez]

Hi Altrez,

I hooked up a simple battery to resistor circuit.



It took a bit of fussing around but got it working reading both volts and amps. Still need to work on real time graph. I did record and store the data on the SD card. File included switch from resistor to charger. Got the file over to my laptop in Xcel. Looks like something I can work with.

Regards,

bi

Looks good. I am excited for mine to get here now. I am planing on starting all the way back to the beginning with just 3 battery's and work up from there.



-Altrez

[bistander]

Data instrument

Hello bi,

Thank you for the link. I ordered one off Amazon that will be here next week. I also got a 32 gig sd card for the unit to save data locally.

-Altrez

Hi Altrez,

I hooked up a simple battery to resistor circuit.



It took a bit of fussing around but got it working reading both volts and amps. Still need to work on real time graph. I did record and store the data on the SD card. File included switch from resistor to charger. Got the file over to my laptop in Xcel. Looks like something I can work with.

Regards,

bi

[altrez]

Hi Altrez,

Sure. It arrived today. Later tonight or tomorrow, after I get it wired into a circuit and see it actually function.

Glad to see an interest.

bi

Edit: It took a while but I am communicating with the device. I'll try storing data tomorrow. Looks like a nice device. Like the quality.
https://moosh.im/mooshimeter/

Hello bi,

Thank you for the link. I ordered one off Amazon that will be here next week. I also got a 32 gig sd card for the unit to save data locally.

-Altrez

[Iamnuts]

Well done!

Bistander, looking forward to seeing your results.
I’m sure you’re going to provide some reliable information.
If you have time, it would be nice if you could show schematic.
Thank you John.

[bistander]

Data instrument

Hello bi,

Can you please share the name of the device / link that you ordered. I would like to buy one so we can compare results.

Thanks!

-Altrez

Hi Altrez,

Sure. It arrived today. Later tonight or tomorrow, after I get it wired into a circuit and see it actually function.

Glad to see an interest.

bi

Edit: It took a while but I am communicating with the device. I'll try storing data tomorrow. Looks like a nice device. Like the quality.
https://moosh.im/mooshimeter/

[altrez]

Hi axxelxavier,

It does seem like Turion contradicts himself and avoids answering questions. I thought Aaron's resent posts explained the phenomena at the heart of the matter. So I altered my experiment plan to explore directly what he explained rather than repeat what you did. I just need to wait on delivery of the instrument (in the mail) so I can document the charge cycle energy. Hope you stick around. I like to see your data posts.

Regards,

bi

Hello bi,

Can you please share the name of the device / link that you ordered. I would like to buy one so we can compare results.

Thanks!

-Altrez

[altrez]

Hello All,

What is the most current schematic for each circuit that everyone is using to test with? I want to make sure that I have the right setup for my next run of tests this week.

Thank you,

-Altrez

[axxelxavier]

Hi axxelxavier,
It does seem like Turion contradicts himself and avoids answering questions. I thought Aaron's resent posts explained the phenomena at the heart of the matter. So I altered my experiment plan to explore directly what he explained rather than repeat what you did. I just need to wait on delivery of the instrument (in the mail) so I can document the charge cycle energy. Hope you stick around. I like to see your data posts.Regards,bi

I don't want to argue, with nobody. I payed attention to Aaron's explanations, as they fit with my own other projects. Maybe I will talk about them, when I have some validated results to show. Or maybe not.
I will consider sticking around, to see your tests - I'm curious if they coincide my current path.
If interested, I am going to make some other 3BGS tests, in a „classical manner”, maybe will present some interest for you or anyone. This time, however, batteries are charged differently: one with classical charger, and the other with a pulse charger. I will make this test probably in the weekend, to fit in a bigger time frame work.

... and even THEN people don't build it correctly, so why show anything ELSE?

Maybe some of us need encouragements, maybe some of us need examples... I cannot afford LiFePo4 or some fancy high tech devices (including oscilloscope), and I know the motor - generator system works, but right now I'm looking for a silent version (solid-state?), because the noise is simply too annoying in my small apartment. There must be other ways to achieve the same result.
And yes, I am a practical man, I want something which I can use in real life.
Lighting in my house (100-150 watt), while regenerating / recharging some batteries, will be enough, for me.
Best regards,
Teodor

[Iamnuts]

Battery store.

I needed a battery today and called by my supplier.
When they were filling the acid I had a look round and noticed a few Optima
batteries in a corner.
They looked a bit different so this evening I had a look on the ‘bayOptima YELLOW TOP YTS 4.2 8012-254 8012254 AGM Battery 12Volt 55Ah 765A is an AGM technology dual-purpose deep-cycle and starting battery. This battery has three times the cycling capability (rechargeability) with ultimate cranking power for your auto, car or truck to outperform traditional batteries. This battery is perfect for powering heavy electrical loads, including winches, audio systems, inverters, and other demanding vehicle accessories and electronics. Lower internal resistance provides more efficient power output and faster recharges.

Main Features:

Lasts twice longer than traditional batteries
More than 15 times the vibration resistance
Completely spillproof, mountable in virtually any position
Maintenance-free
Faster recharging
300+ discharge/recharge cycles

Unfortunately all of this comes at a price. They seem to me to be about
three times the price of the ones I usually buy.

[Turion]

Clarification

I said none of the 3 Battery stuff we have presented AS IT STANDS can be scaled up to run a home. That does not mean with a GENERATOR it couldn't, and it doesn't mean that if the concepts taught here are PROPERLY APPLIED you couldn't get what you need. I just don't want people believing you can get all the energy in the world out of a 3 Battery system, because it is too small to do much of anything the way we have presented it. It is only for proof of concept, and even THEN people don't build it correctly, so why show anything ELSE?

[bistander]

Reply

Hmm, I thought this thread is about makers, about sharing experiences, about learning together from each other. I shared without any restriction all that I have learned, with failures and small progresses, sometimes...
I am not complaining about anything, I don't ask anything, I'm not judging no one, I am only asking:
what is the purpose of this thread, after all?
Anyway, I want to thank everyone who tried to help me: hat off!
Good luck in your researches!
Best regards,
Teodor.

Hi axxelxavier,

It does seem like Turion contradicts himself and avoids answering questions. I thought Aaron's resent posts explained the phenomena at the heart of the matter. So I altered my experiment plan to explore directly what he explained rather than repeat what you did. I just need to wait on delivery of the instrument (in the mail) so I can document the charge cycle energy. Hope you stick around. I like to see your data posts.

Regards,

bi

[axxelxavier]

None of the 3 Battery stuff we have posted can be “scaled up” to run your house. The whole purpose has been to teach some basic concepts about how this stuff works and get you to look at what is ACTUALLY going on in these circuits so you will learn some things that can be applied to OTHER circuits. You need a scope and you need to take measurements of every part of the circuit and you need to use your brain and think a bit. Or don’t. It is always your choice.

Hmm, I thought this thread is about makers, about sharing experiences, about learning together from each other. I shared without any restriction all that I have learned, with failures and small progresses, sometimes...
I am not complaining about anything, I don't ask anything, I'm not judging no one, I am only asking:
what is the purpose of this thread, after all?
Anyway, I want to thank everyone who tried to help me: hat off!
Good luck in your researches!
Best regards,
Teodor.

[Turion]

Circuits

None of the 3 Battery stuff we have posted can be “scaled up” to run your house. The whole purpose has been to teach some basic concepts about how this stuff works and get you to look at what is ACTUALLY going on in these circuits so you will learn some things that can be applied to OTHER circuits. You need a scope and you need to take measurements of every part of the circuit and you need to use your brain and think a bit. Or don’t. It is always your choice.

[Iamnuts]

Interesting sort of chart

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/content...2/figure-1.gif