3 Battery Generating System

[thaelin]

Axxel:
https://uk-rs-online.com if in the uk
or serelays.com in the states. many to choose from
voltages and amp ratings.

[Iamnuts]

Relay.

Hi,
basically a latching or bi-stable relay is a device which switches in response
to a pulse.
Say when your voltage reaches the desired value the relay can be pulsed
and it will remain at that setting until it is pulsed again,thus avoiding cycling.
Unfortunately I’m an old fossil and I have to get help with coding from my
son-in-law, they gave me a couple of hours Arduino coding as a birthday present.
Look up “Relay” in Wikipedia.
John.

[axxelxavier]

My solution was old fashioned, Arduino and latching relays.

Can you be more specific, what kind of relay? And what about the code I posted, what do you think?

[Iamnuts]

My solution was old fashioned, Arduino and latching relays.

[axxelxavier]

I would think you could use a "WHILE" loop. I don't think it would end up being complicated. Matt

Thank you, Matt. I just see your post, and I was thinking at the same syntax. Right now I'm learning about „while”, „do while”, „for” and so on.
And I have also to set some boundaries, I think. Hmm. Let me try some scenarios....
Best regards.

[axxelxavier]

Please post your code. If you have two separate loops like I suggested it should stay in either loop until that battery reaches the low set level. The program should not even be looking at the other battery until the jump to that loop.

@Carroll, thank you for your post. The code is on post 4113, here.
Yeah, your suggestion looks good, but I am the beginning, and still have to learn how to create such loops.

[Matthew Jones]

I would think you could use a "WHILE" loop. I don't think it would end up being complicated.

I would put the reading of the battery into a function "ReadBat1", "ReadBat2"

Then Where both IF/Else statement I would drop into a "WHILE" loop with no parameter "WHILE (0);. Do a voltage read test. If it fails it would drop out reset the switch's to the other direction and go into the next While loop testing until it fails.

So the test can be inside the while loop, if Bat is discharging to Bat2

If ReadBat1 == 12v and ReadBat2 is greater than ReadBat1 Exit loop

So making sure Bat2 is greater than bat1 Would guarantee a good switch and vice versa for the other direction.
Then you could also have fail safe for the voltage levels, you mention that in your code. You could also have a minimum time to run like 1 minute no matter what.

I think the problem now is as they get low there readings switch each other so quick it just turns into a loop. There is no minimum time or not enough.

I hope I am thinking right, its easier when its set up in front of you.

Matt

[citfta]

Okay.

Let's see if this will work for you. The following is not code. It is just a description of what the code should do. I am not that familiar with the code for Arduino. I do most all of my coding for Picaxe.

Beginning of program.

Read battery A
Read battery B
If A>B then go to loop A else go to loop B

Loop A

Pause 30 seconds
Read battery A
If battery A < low set point then go to loop B else return to loop A

Loop B

Pause 30 seconds
Read battery B
If battery B< low set point then go to loop A else return to loop B

I hope this is enough info to help you solve your problem.

Regards,
Carroll

[citfta]

Please post your code. If you have two separate loops like I suggested it should stay in either loop until that battery reaches the low set level. The program should not even be looking at the other battery until the jump to that loop.

I'll try to write a description of how the program should work a little later. Still on my first cup of coffee. LOL

[axxelxavier]

First test battery swapper

@All,
This is my first test of battery swapper. I was using small wires and clip leads && small batteries, just to see if setup is working.
So, the good news: it's working, so this project can be done; the bad news: as I suspected, when one batteries is on lower limit, the setup is going in a loop...
Any ideas?
https://youtu.be/_EFR4n-dwNk

[wantomake]

Liars

Dave and Matthew. We all know who are the liars or not here. You two are not. After this last disruptor leaves there will be no more liars.

How can I say this? I HAVE built the 3BGS system and I repeat and, built a version of the larger upright Dave style generator. The generator did SUUL as it was suppose to. Now I personally know this is true. In front of mine own eyes this happened.

I've made it my habit to not respond to those that are paid to disrupt or derail a thread. I've lived many years knowing and understanding how our enemy operates.

Pay no attention and the enemy will leave.

Thanks Matthew I like the video. And how much more of this truth do we need.

wantomake

[Matthew Jones]

Just posting a little run. No number or anything of value. Juat had to get used to working next to this thing.
I gotta move it to bench with the bigger batteries tomorrow and start tunning the coils.

https://youtu.be/4m6OFnkhbYE

Matt

[Matthew Jones]

Hello All,

I am not trying to stoke the fires here as you all know I have just recently tested the first part of the One battery system that Dave posted. I used a stock motor and posted plenty of pictures.

I did this as I feel this is the most important part of the circuit to give anyone who needs proof of what is possible.

My tests clearly show that it worked fine at a base level test with off the shelf parts no issues what so ever. Now I am building a Matt motor to make the replication true and will post all of those results as well.

So think about this please. If I use the first part of the circuit and it consumes 300 watts of power to run a motor and that motor is modified in such a way that it sends energy back into the battery it now has almost zero loss for the load I am running. What I have now is the first part of the build a device that is very efficient at near unity.

So then what happens if I attach a generator that produces 500 watts? I am now over the 300 watts that I used to drive my motor. So that is a net gain.

Is it over unity? I do not know but it is a net gain and that is what I am working towered with my replication of the system.

I will gladly run any tests that any one wants and post detailed pictures.



-Altrez

The best thing to work for is just small incremental gains. Try to get a surplus no matter how much it is. Enough of those and you start to see real big gains.




Cheers
Matt

[altrez]

Hello All,

I am not trying to stoke the fires here as you all know I have just recently tested the first part of the One battery system that Dave posted. I used a stock motor and posted plenty of pictures.

I did this as I feel this is the most important part of the circuit to give anyone who needs proof of what is possible.

My tests clearly show that it worked fine at a base level test with off the shelf parts no issues what so ever. Now I am building a Matt motor to make the replication true and will post all of those results as well.

So think about this please. If I use the first part of the circuit and it consumes 300 watts of power to run a motor and that motor is modified in such a way that it sends energy back into the battery it now has almost zero loss for the load I am running. What I have now is the first part of the build a device that is very efficient at near unity.

So then what happens if I attach a generator that produces 500 watts? I am now over the 300 watts that I used to drive my motor. So that is a net gain.

Is it over unity? I do not know but it is a net gain and that is what I am working towered with my replication of the system.

I will gladly run any tests that any one wants and post detailed pictures.



-Altrez

[Turion]

Liars

I admit it. We are liars. It is all fake. There was a wind up spring that made the motor turn. Hidden wires. You got what you wanted. Now go away.

But ol' bi has shown he is all mouth and no backbone. Hiding behind his screen name because when the truth comes out he will be shown up as a total fool. Oh it IS about you my man. You and your claims that this isn't for real, yet you won't reveal who you are. What are you afraid of if we are such frauds?