3 Battery Generating System

[axxelxavier]

Greetings,
I am using for my setup 4 x 7 Amp new AGM batt, converted to Alum, a dc-dc converter and a REMF charger (for the fourth battery). The result are so far promising, but I have to run more charging cycles, to settle the alum batteries. I managed to charge 3-rd batt to 13,3 volt (alum), and 4-th batt to 12,8 volt, batt 1 voltage is 11,87, and batt 2 is 11,4 volt. The Bonus was a free light - 2 watt LED, running from REMF coil (ferrite stick all lenght wounded with 0,2 mm wire, with the LED on top ).
I am planning to discharge alum batts to 10 volts limit - so what do you think, is this limit ok, or I should keep discharging only to 11 volt?
On the other hand, I am planning to get a little bigger batteries, as my budget aloud, but the question is: should I get 3 normal car batteries (60-70 Ah) and then convert them to alum, or, option 2, stay with deep cycle 35 AH?
Option 1 - 70 AH
Option 2 - 35 AH
Please use google translate, those pages are in romanian.
Edit: HERE is translation of option 1
and HERE is translation of option 2
Unfortunately, this is what I can choose, right now, so I have to choose something...
One last question: what about THIS inverter?
Best regards,
Teodor

[wantomake]

Some answers

Wantomake,
Did you end up going with a design that will have 12 coils or one that will only have 10?

If you only have 10 coils, my next question is, are the magnets on your rotor arranged N/S, and if so, could they be changed to all N on one side of the rotor?

I know that is MORE work. LOL. So just asking.

Dave,
10 coils with 6 magnet positions. They are N/S and can be changed to all N on one side. Why? Yes it will be more work.

Yesterday finally got a full day in the shop. I increased the gap to 3/8" on both sides of the rotor. No more scrubbing against the sides that hold the coils. Still cogging of course but did compromise the amount of output voltage.

Still pulls 10+- amps at full speed. Only got 0.5 amps with a car tail light bulb across the fwbr . The AC coming off the coil was 130 volts +-. (If indeed I measured correctly). Lol.

The 3BGS is not connected to this system. The Matt modified prime mover is powered off solar bank straight 13+- volts. One of the boosters on the 3BGS had a baking party and therefore can't use the 3BGS to test with. Replacement Booster is in the mail.

Why the idea to go all north on the rotor? I put my fingers and the 2" magnets in danger doing so. But mine is only a testing setup at this stage.

So hit me with it Dave. But first it's (say it with me everyone) time to nuke the coffee!!!
wantomake

[Turion]

Questions

Wantomake,
Did you end up going with a design that will have 12 coils or one that will only have 10?

If you only have 10 coils, my next question is, are the magnets on your rotor arranged N/S, and if so, could they be changed to all N on one side of the rotor?

I know that is MORE work. LOL. So just asking.

[i_ron]

When we’re rich and famous we’ll come back and share more with the three or four people who are actually here building and testing.

Count me in then David.

Here is a pic of my Matt's PDF four battery T switch. In an attempt tp get the lower batteries to charge I have added an Alum 2 volt cell in series with the two upper batteries. Didn't work but here you see it charging and running a 20 watt load

Ron

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[Turion]

The 6/5 combo will reduce cogging. Get your motor up to speed before introducing coils to the rotor. That will reduce amp draw. Then speed up under load reduces MORE amp draw. Lots of ways to make it better.

[wantomake]

Refinance woes

Been working on getting our home refinanced. Appraiser visit. 25 or more forms to send to the bank. Too much done in one day.

Tomorrow will bring normal things like working in the shop on the project. Normal yes to me it is.

Got much time and work to make up. As I've said life and such slows the build so much.

wantomake

[Turion]

Generator

I don’t want to confuse folks about what is going on here. The “pot of gold” at the end of the rainbow is understanding the 3 Battery System and LEARNING to use that system to drive your pulse motor for free. PERIOD

If you use the right kind and size of batteries, the right pulse motor and a $3.00 boost module you can make that happen IF you ROTATE your batteries. That’s it. That’s all there is. That’s the whole secret. All the work done by that motor is FREE. Before you do ANYTHING ELSE, learn to do that.


THEN, once the motor is working for free, it is time to look at how to USE that motor most efficiently. A delayed lenz generator is an AWESOME way to efficiently use that motor. Some folks here, in fact the ONLY people who are really posting here, are doing that. Running a water pump to pump water to people who have NO WAY to power a water pump is ALSO a great way to use that motor. You don’t have to generate power to benefit from this system. You DO have to understand it and you have to LIVE outside the box, not just go there once in a while.

The thing is, just knowing how to build a lenz delayed coil is NOT going to get you a generator that puts out much. You might get one or two coils on your generator and put out a couple hundred volts at around 3 amps total. If you get MORE than that, you have information not many people have.

There ARE ways to get more, but although some of it has been talked about here NONE of it has been shown. Why not? Some of it is patentable. We already gave away the pot of gold. If that isn’t enough, too bad. When we’re rich and famous we’ll come back and share more with the three or four people who are actually here building and testing.

[wantomake]

Asap

How many watts (volts x amps) is it costing you to run your motor?
How many watts are you getting out of a SINGLE coil?

I can’t show you how to get where you want to go without knowing where you are.

I believe you said 12 volts at 10-12 amps is the cost of running the motor.

As soon as I can get into the shop I'll get that data. At wife's work right now.

wantomake

[Turion]

Data

How many watts (volts x amps) is it costing you to run your motor?
How many watts are you getting out of a SINGLE coil?

I can’t show you how to get where you want to go without knowing where you are.

I believe you said 12 volts at 10-12 amps is the cost of running the motor.

[wantomake]

Back to FE adventure

Back home again after sickness and VA appointments.

Rain is pouring on this dried up country side here in S. Carolina with hot coffee mixed in cacao,cinnamon and feeling good.

Wanting to get to more work on the 3BGS today as time and life allows. Thanks to members on other threads that post and keep me moving off this couch.

Will connect the second coil today or open up the gap between the coils and rotor. Maybe do both. The second coil has 18 strands instead of the standard 12 that I'll be using on all 10 coils for the generator.

Well time to warm the coffee and sit on front porch with my wife to watch and enjoy life as it rains,
wantomake

[wantomake]

Back to normal

Happy Mother's day to All the moms out there.

Been down two days with stomach virus. Really felt crappy. Literally.

Back now and after Mom's Day festivities will try to get down to the shop. The bad thing about stopping for a day or two during a build is disruption of the thoughts you had in place. I don't like to start and stop projects. Too hard to get back that same train of thought again.

wantomake

[wantomake]

Hope will remain

Bromikey,
Sorry to hear about your Dad. It's part of our lives unfortunately.

Things have been very slow indeed here on this forum. Especially this thread.

Turion. Hope you feel better soon. Old age and ugliness have slowed me down to nothing some days. Spend more time at the VA Clinic than in my shop it seems.

But in the face of it all I still have hope and believe. The design of this world is to beat down and even kill those who oppose the destroyers of this wonderful home. We can die as humans, but the dreams we live and want can't be killed.

wantomake

[Turion]

Ghost

I'm still around. Health issues have curbed all my research, except into what is good on TV. If I can figure way to get free energy out of a television set, I figure I'll be rich. Anyway, I am checking in from time to time to see what you guys are up to. Doesn't seem like much activity on the forums at all anymore, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

[wantomake]

Thoughts versus building

Yesterday's thoughts versus building was unfruitful. I wanted to finish the widening the gap for the rotor. Did the measurement and how-to part, but didn't finish the building part.

I wound up doing capturing then converting coil shorting experiments all day. This replication of the 3BGS system will be long and tedious.

Well as I always say, time to nuke the coffee.
wantomake

[wantomake]

Good start morning

Good hot coffee, mild weather, prospects of a good week ahead.

This week I'll try to do some adjustments on the gap between rotor and cores. The rotor is only 1/8" clearance on both sides. I didn't know how strong the pull of the 2" dia. magnets would be on the welding rod cores. Therefore will try a 1/4" to 3/8" gap on the sides. This will no doubt reduce the drag on the prime mover and coil output. But stopping the rubbing of the rotor on the 3/4" upright wood is a concern.

Why not build a smaller version of this Turion upright generator? Simple answer. I've built smaller version of the Bedini SSG, Newman motor/generator, B&L ground extraction unit, the 3BGS, even a windmill. But on a smaller scale it's hard to get great results to compare input /output performance.

For myself, it has been the full scale approach the hands-on experience teaching and yes proving the inventors idea.

Also it helps so much to find trustful teachers the inventors of these above mentioned. If your heart and spirit is to help find answers to this energy quest then they will know and guide you.


Well as I always end with this. Time to warm up the coffee.
wantomake