3 Battery Generating System

[Michael John Nunnerley]

1st of a series of videos

194244 - YouTube

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Mike

[Duncan]

194244 - YouTube

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Mike

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[Turion]

Guys,

Folks send me emails all the time about what they are doing with this setup. Today I got one that is most interesting and he asked that I not reveal his name, but wanted to share his results. He has been running the setup for FOUR DAYS (off and on) so far, and the primaries continue to charge whenever it is running, which is a good sign. What is different is that he is using a cap and NO bad battery, and still getting the primaries to INCREASE in voltage whenever it is running. Schematic attached.

MJN,
That's what we've been saying. The motor acts as a generator, but it is BECAUSE of battery three that it does so. And you have to have the load on the motor balanced with the load on the bad battery. This is all in my very first post. When you get the two in what I have been calling "the zone" which basically means they are tuned to each other, you can get the primaries to charge....right up until there is too much charge in batt three and then it all goes sideways.

[Turion]

I guess I'll have to get my scope out and make a movie... Cause no one gets it. I gotta find a camera somewhere..

The motor Steps the voltage up. About 150% of what ever the current potential difference is. IE 12 volt of difference shows 15 to 18 volt coming out of the motor Also the motor seems to add some current to the system at the point the brush engages the coil.

This hits the dead battery and FOR SOME REASON. The battery kicks out the opposite potential. IE the 18 volt that went in the dead battery come out of the Negative pole as -15 to -18 volt.
This voltage than now has a negative potential, more charge, and can charge the primaries. This process take a bit time and when you look at it you rarely have both positive and negative potential on the Battery at the same time. It loads up one side and then dumps the other side.. More on that in second.

You can watch this happen. You watch the current flow all the way around the system. And you can clearly see all the changing potentials.

So inevitably we should be able to put a load (Inverter) on Battery 3 and do more work while stile maintaining or charging the primary battery. That was Davids original experience anyway.

This becomes possible when you start to look at battery 3 behavior. Now we get to point when you either have 0 volt (-pole) and 15 volt (+pole) that then will shift to -15 (-pole) and 0 volt (+pole). Does the caps in the inverter care? No. the cap just charges based on the potential difference.

But as the caps charge they force new polarity onto the existing energy and the transformer runs the voltage up. So now you have this situation that no matter where the Cap gets the power from, the system runs it through, get the work done and deposits the low voltage end of it back onto the opposite pole which at any given time could be exactly where that power needs to go to be retained.
Mind you this part is theory I have not been able to witness it happening. But I have set up the very same thing in a Tesla Switch several times.

I wish people who have the ability to look would look at this with a scope, and note the behavior I have listed. Its very easy to see with few small modification to the system. If the entire thing were witnessed then maybe we could figure away around the dead battery. Or not.

Matt

Matt also said basically the exact same thing, only he used a scope instead of a meter, but we all agree on the main points now I think. LOL

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Million dolar question!!!!!!!

Sorry but the video will take a long time to load, probably tomorrow as it is only 10% now and it is quite long. Duncan, I have changed to public for this video.

Dave, yes caps can be used, I said that before, but the balance of charge/discharge still applies, as in using other types of battery for number 3. It is just easier with a bad battery to keep it at a certain balance, less margin for error

I AM A SCIENTIST B.Sc and I do know what I talk about, and one thing that is needed is looking at what is going on in the circuit, that is what I am doing for benifit for all. This has to be done in parts as I am doing and reporting the outcome from each part, once that has been done, then maybe, and only then, will we know hopefully what is happening.

I have shown some of what is happening, if you don't want to believe it then fine with me. This does not distract from the overall effect, it only shows what is happening and believe me it is a culmination of things, NOT JUST ONE.
The most intriguing thing for me is WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE MOTOR, not battery 3. If we know what is happening in the motor then we can design whatever we want around it to keep it happening, if not then you are p...ing in the wind.

I have started getting in my mind what is happening in the motor, but I will have to find a way of showing this and THAT is not a simple task.

On another point, I think in the long term, the drive batteries will be damaged due to cell reversal, but on the other hand, ONCE we know what is going on in the motor we may be able to design around it

My opinion for what it is worth "it's for free" @ 62 years old there's not a lot of future for me, but it would be nice to see my children get some benifit

Mike

[Turion]

I know what you mean. I'm 58, and my kids are grown. My youngest is an engineer, and sometimes I think that he thinks his old man has a screw or two loose, but I he was there when my first setup was running, as was my oldest son, and we were taking shifts watching the batteries and the loads on them to make sure all went well, so he knows this stuff is for real. But his degree is in engineering management, so he has just enough practical engineering knowledge in a lot of different areas to be of some help, but not specialized in any area enough to really provide expertise. I am going to spend a few days with him this coming weekend and he is anxious to see what I have so for. It should be interesting.

I'm not doing this for myself...it's for my kids and grandkids. They deserve a future and right now we are destroying theirs to have ours.

Dave

[gyula]

Guys,

Folks send me emails all the time about what they are doing with this setup. Today I got one that is most interesting and he asked that I not reveal his name, but wanted to share his results. He has been running the setup for FOUR DAYS (off and on) so far, and the primaries continue to charge whenever it is running, which is a good sign. What is different is that he is using a cap and NO bad battery, and still getting the primaries to INCREASE in voltage whenever it is running. Schematic attached.

Hi Dave,

I can see a ground symbol on the left hand side attached to the negative pole of the left hand side battery, has he mentioned whether it is important for the primaries to charge?
I assume he maybe also has made real loadtests on the two primary batteries separately? That would also be a good info.

Thanks,
Gyula

[Turion]

He did say it is an earth ground. I did not think to ask whether or not that is critical to success, so I don't know, but will ask. He has not done ANY load testing yet. These are very small motors too, so we don't even know what the results will be when we try it with motors large enough to do significant work.

Just throwing it out there for folks to take a look at and maybe someone will have the stuff to do the testing. It will take me a few days to get everything together to even attempt to replicate. I am busy getting ready to leave for a week and have many things on the "honey get it done" list before I go. It used to be a "honey do" list, but I'm a slacker, so we've gone beyond that.

Dave

[PhysicsProf]

oops -- double-posted somehow...

[PhysicsProf]

I know what you mean. I'm 58, and my kids are grown.
I'm not doing this for myself...it's for my kids and grandkids. They deserve a future and right now we are destroying theirs to have ours.

Dave

I totally agree with you and Mike. (PS -- I'm 63, older than either of you!)

Just jumping in to say THANK YOU DAVID for all the work you've done on this for the past year or so, all the posts, all the information.
Sure hope this pans out, for the children of the world (and not for the war-mongers!).

Hopefully hundreds will try out your designs, quietly at first anyway, for the betterment of mankind!

Merry Christmas to you and all--
Steven Jones

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Having problems with youtube

Hi all, I am having problems with youtube, the video has been sent but youtube is still processing!!!!!!!!!! I do not know why, it is an AVI which I have used before and had no problems. Can anyone suggest what the problem is as youtube gives no information, just processing.

It has taken all night and part of this morning to load it, I AM A BIT PISSED OFF WITH IT thanks in advance

Mike, not so

[john_g]

Hi all, I am having problems with youtube, the video has been sent but youtube is still processing!!!!!!!!!! I do not know why, it is an AVI which I have used before and had no problems. Can anyone suggest what the problem is as youtube gives no information, just processing.

It has taken all night and part of this morning to load it, I AM A BIT PISSED OFF WITH IT thanks in advance

Mike, not so

Hi Mike

How long is the video? I have had the same problem with youtube and have overcome the problem by split the video into 2 halves.

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Regards
John

[Duncan]

Hi all, I am having problems with youtube, the video has been sent but youtube is still processing!!!!!!!!!! I do not know why, it is an AVI which I have used before and had no problems. Can anyone suggest what the problem is as youtube gives no information, just processing.

It has taken all night and part of this morning to load it, I AM A BIT PISSED OFF WITH IT thanks in advance

Mike, not so

Oh dear Mike .. Its finished but I dont think you'll like the outcome perhaps https://vimeo.com/sign_up

[Obie]

Hello All

Hello folks,
This amazing thread has held my attention for about 2 weeks and I decided to make my first post.
I have been researching electricity and free energy for about 2 years; my main occupation is making paintings. While it's been a stretch to go from painting to electronics, I can say that the knowledge I have gained so far is enough to make me,
A: Lucky
and/or
B: Dangerous
Here are some thoughts on the subject. Please forgive if nothing makes sense..I'm just throwing it out there.
It seems to me that the use of the dead battery might turn the circuit into a type of antenna. I'm thinking here of Tesla's circuit where he uses a plate in the air to collect positive charge and a plate in the ground to collect negative charge. He then uses a capacitor in the circuit to periodically shunt current into a tank circuit for timed reintegration.
In Turion's circuit, the negative plates in the battery might be acting as Tesla's ground. I was thinking that it might be possible the DC motor is contributing positive charge through reactance. If the reactance induced a current into your "antenna" circuit, then it would be with the current, not opposing it. I think the dead battery is doing double duty as a capacitor as well.
Also, I know that if you put a load on the motor, you are changing the phase relation between the voltage and current. My guess is that when you balance the loads between the generator and the dead battery, you recalibrate the phase back to 90 degrees or very close to that. I don't know if that matters, I thought it deserved mentioning.

I am guessing that the dead battery would allow for reflection of any oscillations that the motor might be producing. If that were the case, then chances are the waves are constructively interfering and creating maximum potential..ie. unity as it was expressed in that video, "Similarities of Wave Behavior". From that state it would only take the smallest amount of energy to go "overunity".

Regarding the slow polarity flips, the thing that comes to mind is a precession. I am thinking that something like magnetic moment is slowly rotating to produce a periodic flip.
Well, that is my little contribution, I hope it sparks something, hey, hey.
John

[Turion]

Obie,
Funny you should say that....because I have been having exactly those same kinds of discussions in emails with a couple folks.

Pretty concise post for a "Newbie" and it may stab right to the heart of this thing. We are approaching it from a lot of different angles, and sooner or later we are going to hit the right one.

I have a new setup I just came up with down in the basement running at this very moment.The voltage on the primaries dropped as it usually does when you start the setup, but THIS time there is no wild fluctuation of voltage on my two digital meters. Just a steady climb back toward where they started at standing voltage. If they reach the standing voltage mark while the motor is still running, I will know I have something special. Only time will tell. The motors speed up, then level off, the voltage will go flat. Then they will slow down and level off and the voltage climbs. Repeat, repeat, repeat. I'm not saying it is a successful run yet, but it is interesting to say the least, and I videotaped it. I will video it again in a few minutes and may post some of it to YouTube.

Dave