3 Battery Generating System

[Matthew Jones]

Hello Again Turion,

Wow!, long time no see you at My Thread...Did You ever finished that Asymmetrical Generator I have shown you all the how's to?...last time you were waiting on an extra magnet (Was this around three months ago?)...is it still "on its way"?



Oh!...That "sounds" so familiar Turion!!...Is it Rewound "My UFO Style"?...Asymmetrically?...MUCH,MUCH, MUCH BETTER?...or is it the very slow one you have shown that Matthew Jones have "designed", but no one have EVER seen How it was done?

Why don't you refer your replicators to the right source?!...on how to do this rewinding of the Motors MUCH BETTER...and that is in My Thread...nowhere else they will be able to find this valuable info...Turion...You know that perfectly well...you were there for a long while...gathering info... Am I right?

And -of course- don't think I am doing this to "gain" more views there...believe me...I've got plenty so far...

Regards and very nice talking to you again, I mean Me talking to you, not the other way around...

Regards to all other Members here also!


Ufopolitics


EDIT: Oh, by the way...I was just forgetting...and You could ask Your Wife...since she is into the Legal Intellectual Patent Protection Laws...that here, in US...such beautiful Country!...the USPTO allows Eleven Months (11)...after you publish all your material...on line or else...to file up an application with them...and of course...You have to provide all the "Specimens"...or material proof along with videos, sites, articles, threads and Forums...where you have revealed/disclosed/exposed all this info...

Also...let Matt knows about it...that way He could disclose -relaxed- that new designed slow motor winding that you have shown working in your 3BGS...without any problems at all...

Regards again.

That motor is not designed for 12 volt. Its designed for 120v thats why its so slow.
The good thing about is it puts out 500 - 800 volt spikes that do number on the recovery end.
I had that built and decided to try it with this system. But it had been built along time ago for use with the Tesla switch.

Just turns out that it works better than your with this system.

If you weren't such a jealous little cry baby putts I would tell ya why it works so good.

But hey you are what you are and thats all that stands between you and the little bit of respect you might deserve for your success.

Get a life cry baby.

Matt

[Ufopolitics]

Post addressed to Turion...

That motor is not designed for 12 volt. Its designed for 120v thats why its so slow.
The good thing about is it puts out 500 - 800 volt spikes that do number on the recovery end.
I had that built and decided to try it with this system. But it had been built along time ago for use with the Tesla switch.

Just turns out that it works better than your with this system.

If you weren't such a jealous little cry baby putts I would tell ya why it works so good.

But hey you are what you are and thats all that stands between you and the little bit of respect you might deserve for your success.

Get a life cry baby.

Matt

Hello Matt,


My post above was addressed to Turion, (Dave Bowling)...very clearly...Not to You

And IF I mentioned your name it was "for Dave to tell You"...to DO YOU a favor...nothing else.

Never directed any words direct to you...since I know your grumpy and insulting personality for too long...

Watch your "typical" responses right here above in Quote Marks...This is the way you normally answer...

For You, Matt...this is "business as usual"...ways to respond.


Be Happy...smile...take a deep breath...this Planet is very beautiful!


Regards!...and I love You too ...


Ufopolitics

[Turion]

UFO,

My, my, my. It would seem something has got you very upset, and it APPEARS you believe I came to your site so I could pick your brain on motor winding technique and then steal it for my own schemes.

And here I thought you were willing to SHARE what you've "discovered" with everyone? So why should it get you all upset if our "secret motor winding technique" is something we picked up from you? It's NOT by the way, but even if it was, what would it matter?

The motor winding we are using is VERY MUCH symmetrical. It is just a simple pulse motor design Matt drew up so we would all be using the SAME one for our experiments...not because we are stealing it from you. But it is Matt's design, which he has shared with the folks who are ACTIVELY building here instead of just coming here to give others advice. If he choses to reveal it on the forum, that's up to him. I'm going to check back and may post an edit to this, because I distinctly remember Matt posting something on the motor schematic several pages ago, though I could be mistaken.

As for the rest of what you said...

I did wind the asymmetrical generator. I did weld together several motor cases to house it. I need to weld on one more case, but I could do that, because I have a case with four magnets in it, and I could remove one for the one magnet I need, and use that case. I have pictures if you are interested in what I "really" have so far.

For me, it has been an issue of where my time is best spent. I keep waiting for someone on your thread to take one of your modified motors and hook it to a generator and loop the system. No one has done that. I keep waiting for someone to take one of your modified motors and modified generators put together and loop the system. No one has done that. So far lots of folks believe you have something, but no one has shown a looped, working system.

And then I look at the 3BGS, where we HAVE produced enough energy out of two coils and a rotor attached to a pulse motor to loop the system and to keep the primaries charged up EVEN IF THE 3BGS SETUP ISN'T WORKING PERFECTLY. Our issue has been that when we do, it slows our lenz free generator down below 1100 rpm, where it is no longer lenz free. Houston, we have a problem.

So....Should I spend my time working on a system that no one has proven works, or spend my time on a working one that is sitting right in front of me and just hasn't been looped yet. . Sorry, but I made the hard choice.

Now, as to motors. YOU yourself told me that YOUR design modification of the MY1016 razor scooter motor was NOT DESIGNED to produce speed and torque running at only 12 volts. Correct?????? And we need a motor that will give us the performance we need running at 12 volts, and Matt's motor design does that. I have run the two side by side, and at 12 volts, his is just BETTER. Now, when we start increasing the voltage to run bigger systems and larger motors, YOUR design will probably prove to be better. I'm not sure. I really don't care. I have nothing against you and your motor. I am going to use one that best fits the circumstances. If you have a design for a pulse motor that will run on between 10-24 volts with lots of torque based on the MY1016 frame, I would be pleased as punch to build it. I just got two more of the motors in the mail to experiment with. Honestly, I haven't connected the output of my modified UFO motor back into the input. I have the run brushes wired in parallel and the generator brushes wired in series, and I could connect the output back in. I would wire it any way YOU suggest, since you are the expert.

Hope that explains everything and don't get so defensive. We're not trying to steal your folks or take credit for your work. When I use YOUR motor in my videos, I mention it!!!

Dave

[Ufopolitics]

Don't tell Me...

That motor is not designed for 12 volt. Its designed for 120v thats why its so slow.
The good thing about is it puts out 500 - 800 volt spikes that do number on the recovery end.
I had that built and decided to try it with this system. But it had been built along time ago for use with the Tesla switch.

Just turns out that it works better than your with this system.

If you weren't such a jealous little cry baby putts I would tell ya why it works so good.

But hey you are what you are and thats all that stands between you and the little bit of respect you might deserve for your success.

Get a life cry baby.

Matt

Since You addressed Me...I will now address You.

I would tell ya why it works so good.

Please...Do Not tell Me...I have Superior Technologies being Openly/no secrets/ Disclosed here...please!

Tell Your Great Members Audience Replicating this Set Up...that are searching/looking/trying very hard to reproduce this 3BGS System Successfully.

And now Dave expresses very clearly...that the "main and most important part/secret" of this Battery connections circuit "Set Up", lies on an "specific" Pulsed Motor...without giving the "slightest" hint ...of where to find this great and "Secretly Mystic" Holy Grail...

Excepts when He mentioned the MY### Chinese 16 Poles Motor Scooter, that I TAUGHT HIM HOW TO WIND, STEP BY STEP, even though He kept making mistakes on its build...)

But I had the Patience...till He achieved.


Then WHY don't Ya, Matt?...disclose this Motor to your followers?


Ufopolitics

[Turion]

You don't have to have a "mystic secret motor" I have been using a stock off the shelf motor for YEARS with this and getting results. You just get BETTER results with a pulse motor...ANY pulse motor. People can figure out how to pulse a motor or make their OWN pulse motor. YOUR motor works for this, it just doesn't work AS WELL turning the GENERATOR we want to turn...but for seeing the setup do what we SAY it does, it will work fine.

And yes, I made mistakes winding the motor, but others made the exact SAME mistakes I did. It was a learning process, especially trying to follow written directions and diagrams when a 2 minute video would have shown us everything we needed to know about how to wind the motor. Which is why I made one when I finally got it right. YOU had patience! LOL. I'm the one that rewound it THREE times! But I don't give up on things that are important to me.

Dave

[Ufopolitics]

Not Upset at All...Dave.

UFO,

My, my, my. It would seem something has got you very upset, and it APPEARS you believe I came to your site so I could pick your brain on motor winding technique and then steal it for my own schemes.

And here I thought you were willing to SHARE what you've "discovered" with everyone? So why should it get you all upset if our "secret motor winding technique" is something we picked up from you? It's NOT by the way, but even if it was, what would it matter?

First, Turion, I am not upset...
Second, your post I cited/quoted is NOT Completed...You are NOT LEADING Your followers to the Right Source...that is why I decided to post back...that is all.
I was doing it to "help ENLIGHTEN your guys"...

The motor winding we are using is VERY MUCH symmetrical. It is just a simple pulse motor design Matt drew up so we would all be using the SAME one for our experiments...not because we are stealing it from you. But it is Matt's design, which he has shared with the folks who are ACTIVELY building here instead of just coming here to give others advice. If he choses to reveal it on the forum, that's up to him. I'm going to check back and may post an edit to this, because I distinctly remember Matt posting something on the motor schematic several pages ago, though I could be mistaken.

I am sorry Turion...that statement You have written above...honestly do not make sense at all......I will tell you why...

The motor winding we are using is VERY MUCH symmetrical.

I am very sorry...BUT Not so... "VERY MUCH" SYMMETRICAL MOTORS will NEVER deliver a Pulse Back...And I hope You are not going to deny this fact to Me..Right?...

Symmetrical windings are NEVER isolated/independent coils...BUT, in SERIES or PARALLEL or both ways... connections between them ALL...

And this "scenario"...My Dear Friend, WILL NEVER, EVER... Be a Pulsed Motor...

If not so...Then your followers could use that Motor You have recommended AS IS from Factory...right?...it is exactly VERY MUCH SYMMETRICAL.

Then...żWhy go through the aggravation to Unwinding/re-winding hard, boring and tedious work?

The "Only Pulses" You-for sure- will get back on Symmetry...are the B EMF Spikes- Motors FULL of Witches......and they are randomly generated...NEVER a steady "Pulse Back Return"

So...the name "Pulsed Motor"...may relate to the way it is being controlled...by "Pulses"(PWM)...then it is a "Pulsed Motor"...never as they arrive from Symmetry Factory...

As for the rest of what you said...

I did wind the asymmetrical generator. I did weld together several motor cases to house it. I need to weld on one more case, but I could do that, because I have a case with four magnets in it, and I could remove one for the one magnet I need, and use that case. I have pictures if you are interested in what I "really" have so far.

Not to me, honestly...I could care less...if you want to show them pictures...show them to my Audience of followers...they might be interested to see them...I don't...I have seen that so many times...it results very boring by now...

For me, it has been an issue of where my time is best spent. I keep waiting for someone on your thread to take one of your modified motors and hook it to a generator and loop the system. No one has done that. I keep waiting for someone to take one of your modified motors and modified generators put together and loop the system. No one has done that. So far lots of folks believe you have something, but no one has shown a looped, working system.

Precisely, because of "all that time You spent" at My Thread...I was really counting on YOU to be ONE of the first ones to do it Turion...since you were so advanced and so forward going in your replications...AS IS written allover "Our Walls" My Friend...BUT...what happened Turion?

According to "Natural Human Behavior"...They say the "No news is Good News"...and even more knowing You...that every time you had a problem or something that did not worked out(of the many times you had) winding misunderstandings or simply putting together MY ASYMMETRICAL MACHINES, OR TESTING THEM versus Originals ...You used to "Jump like a Jack in the Box"...

And then I look at the 3BGS, where we HAVE produced enough energy out of two coils and a rotor attached to a pulse motor to loop the system and to keep the primaries charged up EVEN IF THE 3BGS SETUP ISN'T WORKING PERFECTLY. Our issue has been that when we do, it slows our lenz free generator down below 1100 rpm, where it is no longer lenz free. Houston, we have a problem.

So....Should I spend my time working on a system that no one has proven works, or spend my time on a working one that is sitting right in front of me and just hasn't been looped yet. . Sorry, but I made the hard choice.

I never, ever said I will expect for you to "abandon" your dream, your set up...your Battery Hook Up Circuit...
But ...There are many posts (and videos too) from You...where you were VERY Successful by using MY UFO MOTOR IN YOUR SYSTEM Turion...do you want me to bring them here for all 2 see?
Exactly... You have written all over the Walls of this Great Forum...that the UFO Motor will get You RIGHT IN THE "ZONE"...Am I wrong here, so far?

You even told people here...to "BUILD,BUILD BUILD UFO MOTORS...Replicate People...Replicate!!...The bigger the better...bla,bla,bla...

Your "System Works" ONLY with the RIGHT PULSED MOTOR...You have written/expressed that so many times...even in your Latest previous post to Harctan...

I even explained on THIS THREAD...before... Why your first Replication of My Design, worked better than the original mode at certain point...when it got a wire loose from one coil...remember that Turion, ..?
I even displayed a Graphic showing the reason here...(according to my belief)...But You ignored it...
Remember when this happened...You were testing Torque the second time...and send me several emails not here, but to my main address...saying it does not work better than original?...Then I told you to check it AGAIN...then wire was loose...(I am trying to freshen up your Memory...I know so many designs and things make you forget...I don't

Now, as to motors. YOU yourself told me that YOUR design modification of the MY1016 razor scooter motor was NOT DESIGNED to produce speed and torque running at only 12 volts. Correct?????? And we need a motor that will give us the performance we need running at 12 volts, and Matt's motor design does that. I have run the two side by side, and at 12 volts, his is just BETTER. Now, when we start increasing the voltage to run bigger systems and larger motors, YOUR design will probably prove to be better. I'm not sure. I really don't care. I have nothing against you and your motor. I am going to use one that best fits the circumstances. If you have a design for a pulse motor that will run on between 10-24 volts with lots of torque based on the MY1016 frame, I would be pleased as punch to build it. I just got two more of the motors in the mail to experiment with. Honestly, I haven't connected the output of my modified UFO motor back into the input. I have the run brushes wired in parallel and the generator brushes wired in series, and I could connect the output back in. I would wire it any way YOU suggest, since you are the expert.

Hope that explains everything and don't get so defensive. We're not trying to steal your folks or take credit for your work. When I use YOUR motor in my videos, I mention it!!!

Dave

Matthew Jones...just reaffirmed below...that "His designed Motor" is ONLY for Higher Voltages (120V)...not designed for 12V...Not 24V...Not 36V?...BUT 120V!!...so here, I see "A little confusion", something that do not make sense? ...So...I really recommend You guys better "talk in the Phone" first...before keep writing based on "IM Pulses"...

Originally Posted by Matthew Jones View Post
That motor is not designed for 12 volt. Its designed for 120v thats why its so slow.
The good thing about is it puts out 500 - 800 volt spikes that do number on the recovery end.
I had that built and decided to try it with this system. But it had been built along time ago for use with the Tesla switch.

ANY Motor...BUT ANYONE, in order to perform at lower voltages...does not have absolutely NADA, nothing to do...with the Concept/Design of EITHER being Symmetrical or Asymmetrical...but, with the type of wire and its winding´s spec´s...

But You should ask Matt...He should know for sure...I mean, after all... He has even designed a "Secret" Motor...that works better than mine...for your System...can not even be used for a Fan...unless people wanted to loose weight sweating...

As also Matt should be able to help you build it...

So ASK HIM...NOT ME Turion...I have dedicated already...TOO MUCH TIME ...helping YOU...to reproduce your Motor MY### chinese Scooter little cheap thing...that you have shown on your videos...So, sorry...but nope...No MÁS...No More...


So...Sayonara, Good Bye...Au revoir...Hasta la Vista, Ciao My Friend...


Ufopolitics

[Turion]

UFO,
Matt said I could post the schematic here for the motor winding, so here it is. I used 200 feet of number 20 for mine. I wound 33 feet around the first commutator segment, 66 feet around the ones on either side of that and 101 feet around the ones on each side of that. Each end of each of the two coils is connected to four commutator segments. Simple and TOTALLY SSYMMETRICAL. Only two coils directly opposite each other. What could be more symmetrical than that?

tachyoncatcher wound his with different wire and is getting better results. Ask him.

I DID get in the zone with your motor, but I need a motor that will get in the zone and turn my generator at the same time on just 12 volts. Yours won't. It is that simple. It has NO TORQUE, and you know that. Matt's design is slower, but it has a LITTLE MORE torque. It works better for this application, but it doesn't have a LOT of torque either. As a matter of fact, to break magnetic lock and get the motor spinning up to speed, I have to put my electric drill on the other end of the generator shaft and spin it, using the motor to just keep it spinning. So NEITHER motor is perfect. But with four significant and distinct off times, his design puts out REALLY GOOD SPIKES of over a thousand volts.

And as to your statement that symmetrical motors will never give spikes back...you have no idea what you are talking about. I used nothing BUT symmetrical motors with this setup for five years, motors that have only two wires, not four like your rewound motors, and I have gotten HUGE spikes. Ask anyone who has actually built it. When you connect a symmetrical motor between two positives or two negatives, it behaves in ways YOU don't understand because you have NOT done the research on this. So please don't tell me I am not seeing what my meters and scopes and countless other people's meters and scopes say are right there. Build it yourself and you will see. You may understand EVERYTHING about how a motor works when it is wired conventionally, but you do NOT understand this setup.

Dave

[Matthew Jones]

Since You addressed Me...I will now address You.
Please...Do Not tell Me...I have Superior Technologies being Openly/no secrets/ Disclosed here...please!
Tell Your Great Members Audience Replicating this Set Up...that are searching/looking/trying very hard to reproduce this 3BGS System Successfully.
And now Dave expresses very clearly...that the "main and most important part/secret" of this Battery connections circuit "Set Up", lies on an "specific" Pulsed Motor...without giving the "slightest" hint ...of where to find this great and "Secretly Mystic" Holy Grail...
Excepts when He mentioned the MY### Chinese 16 Poles Motor Scooter, that I TAUGHT HIM HOW TO WIND, STEP BY STEP, even though He kept making mistakes on its build...)
But I had the Patience...till He achieved.
Then WHY don't Ya, Matt?...disclose this Motor to your followers?
Ufopolitics

UFO ...UFO ...UFO ..... I have only one request from you. How do you say "PUTTS" in Spanish. Once you tell me that will be your new name.

Your crying about something that doesn't exist. I have openly shared my motor with several people. Unlike you I like to bring validated plans to this discussion. So in the back ground while no one was replicating openly I gave the details to anybody who ask via phone call.
The reason I did that way was because I wanted make sure they were successful first in the replication and to prove out that the motor was good ingredient. So far its added good success only 3 times.

I have drawing but first I should tell ya why the motor was built. I built it to run on a Tesla Switch. Because of the way its wired it would switch back and forth real well. I did this about 2 years or more ago. At the same I released a paper on the Tesla switch and how to build one for beginners and I mentioned the motor in that paper.

And I know you really don't want to see this motor because you have nothing to learn from in your extra terrestrial genius and all. But I gave Dave the go ahead to post the pictures.

Here is the one I shared the other day that shows the winding pattern.
https://www.matthewcjones.com/powerB...impleMotor.jpg

Dave will come up with the rest.

But before I go I must ask for you not to take of my highly secret tech and try to replicate it. You are far to arrogant of person to see the value in it. And please you already blew the 12/12/12 promise of yours so don't come up in this thread and start trying to derail things with your mystical BS. We don't need ya or want you.

I know you posted a bunch of garbage to derail everybody, so now you have got your chest please just back to your little planet of "YOU ARE WONDERFUL" and leave use people alone.

Thanks so much for cooperation and understanding in the matter.

Sincerely
Matthew Jones

[Ufopolitics]

Lost Souls...

UFO,
Matt said I could post the schematic here for the motor winding, so here it is. I used 200 feet of number 20 for mine. I wound 33 feet around the first commutator segment, 66 feet around the ones on either side of that and 101 feet around the ones on each side of that. Each end of each of the two coils is connected to four commutator segments. Simple and TOTALLY SSYMMETRICAL.

tachyoncatcher wound his with different wire and is getting better results. Ask him.

Dave

That is "VERY SYMMETRICAL"?...that "thing"?....

Yes...it "May look Symmetrical" to You...or to anyone who have not seen my main Two Videos...Symmetry of Darkness and Asymmetry to Enlightenment...or read Any of My Threads...or even read Tesla Motor Patents...

Symmetry is NOT because they "LOOK SYMMETRICAL"...lol

Somewhere else is this 132 Years Riddle...

Obviously (as I wrote previously)..."that Matt Invented Motor"...have TWO SEPARATE and VERY ISOLATED/INDEPENDENT Coils...ONE North Blue/Light Blue (start/end) and the OTHER South Red/ Pink...

They do reverse every 180ş or 90ş apart, whatever...but that fact ...does NOT makes them Symmetrical AT ALL...

Oh Turion...so much time you've spent in My Thread...and You still do not understand the difference...

So first One Single Coil is...wound at 33 feet...
Second Coil(s) are 66 feet each...
Then a Third set of Coils...101 feet each...

Honestly using your grey cells...do you think that will render a "Symmetrical Magnetic Pattern"?

Because IF YOU DO think...that this "design" is Symmetrical...you DO have to go back to Asymmetrical schooling...full time and Big time...


Bye...I have to work...have to close that loop...


Ufopolitics

[Matthew Jones]

What I say. Your PUTTS... And you prove it every time you write anything.

What a shame

[Ufopolitics]

A Question...

UFO,
Matt said I could post the schematic here for the motor winding, so here it is. I used 200 feet of number 20 for mine. I wound 33 feet around the first commutator segment, 66 feet around the ones on either side of that and 101 feet around the ones on each side of that. Each end of each of the two coils is connected to four commutator segments. Simple and TOTALLY SSYMMETRICAL. Only two coils directly opposite each other. What could be more symmetrical than that?

tachyoncatcher wound his with different wire and is getting better results. Ask him.

Dave

Turion please answer this...

Why every time I address You directly...I get Matthew Jones to jump all over Me, bouncing, screaming and twisting all over?...just like a Fat jealous wife, with blond long hair and high heels bouncing, screaming, offending and *****ing just because her husband has been addressed...?

You seriously have to be careful there..."Passionate Hidden Loves"...could develop in awfully and bloody ends...

Give Her , sorry...give Him some pills...PMS or something...


Goodbye...I will not post no more...promised...I will just read.

[Matthew Jones]

See there you go again acting like a PUTTS. Man I feel sad for you.

[Turion]

The single coil has 33 feet of its length around the first section of the armature then the next 66 feet of its length around the two armature pieces on the outside of that and the final 101 feet of its 200 feet around the two armature pieces on the outside of that. It is one coil. There are two of these coils on the motor..

You start out in the middle winding clockwise around just one, then around three (including the first one) then around five (including the first 3).

Perhaps you are right, and I do not understand your definitions of symmetrical and asymmetrical. But then it's YOUR definition is it not?

Just as you clearly do not understand that a "symmetrical" motor can produce pulses of over a thousand volts and be used as part of a system to produce power and charge batteries, even though I have clearly explained the process here step by step, beginning with the first post, in terms even a child could understand.

We focus on what we want to focus on and we see what we want to see.

I'd say all that matters is who comes up with a self running system first.
Right??

[Ufopolitics]

Please control Mr Jones

The single coil has 33 feet of its length around the first section of the armature then the next 66 feet of its length around the two armature pieces on the outside of that and the final 101 feet of its 200 feet around the two armature pieces on the outside of that. It is one coil. There are two of these coils on the motor..

You start out in the middle winding clockwise around just one, then around three (including the first one) then around five (including the first 3).

Perhaps you are right, and I do not understand your definitions of symmetrical and asymmetrical. But then it's YOUR definition is it not?

Just as you clearly do not understand that a "symmetrical" motor can produce pulses of over a thousand volts and be used as part of a system to produce power and charge batteries, even though I have clearly explained the process here step by step, beginning with the first post, in terms even a child could understand.

We focus on what we want to focus on and we see what we want to see.

I'd say all that matters is who comes up with a self running system first.
Right??

Please Turion...

Control Matt Jones...He has gone over the Forum Policy Rules, He is being Insulting me here...but not enough He went and posted at My Thread...I do not mind...because no one will believe his crazy screams and loud offenses...but He will be banned if He does not stops and deletes those insulting posts.

At any point here...except when He did open doors because of his previous insults...I have offended, Insulted or lack none of you guys respect...is written there.

I strongly recommend to give him some strong sedatives...He could get shocked (again) working on High Volatges like this...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[tachyoncatcher]

Really?

My 3BGS thread friends. You are engaging in troll chatter. A teenage ego in and old man body. That falls under "whatever". Instead of reading, build. I did! Dave and Matt have nailed this one. What we have here is real power. Not the kind you get with buzzing circuits and leds, but the kind you get with gas powered generators. Only no engine! I am blown away! I have spent thousands on Bedini tech and understanding it. I spent less than 50 bucks on this. Get busy. You won't regret it.
Good Luck,
Randy