3 Battery Generating System

[a.king21]

Good news and bad news

My second run lasted for an hour.
The primaries settled at 12.67 and the secondaries started at 12.82 (3 kw) which is to be expected as they were previuously charged conventionally using an off the shelf car battery charger.
Then the system fell out of balance and ended at 12.20 primaries and 13.16 secondaries (3 kw) - conventionally charged.
So I've put the whole system in parallel so we can get a start voltage and I will run the system again to obtain a cumulative end voltage.
The system reminds me of the Benitez 4 battery system and we would do well to listen to his words. He had it figured out a century ago.

Meanwhile as a worthwhile distraction here is one guy who seems to have figured it out.
Self Running -1000 Watt Fuel Less Generator by air2gas

Those of us in the US might find it worthwhile to buy a system.

[Turion]

Loads

A.king21,
It has never been about the loads. I have run MASSIVE loads on this setup. It has always been about balance. I love what RAndy has done by adding that second transducer battery and the buffer battery. I can just use the buffer battery to balance my system. In fact, we could use a chip and a Stamp to read the voltage in the buffer and increase the load on the inverter, balancing the system for us.

Dave

[tachyoncatcher]

Jealous

Hey Randy,
I've been away so long without my "fix", the lady,the monster, the feeling, that I'm almost able to behave normally. Oh No. My notebooks are crying out to me.

Cheers,
wantomake

Careful,
The 3BGS is a jealous lady. You've been talking to those OTHER threads. If you try it again with the new setup, you will never be able to see those other threads again!

Really, the drawing is in my signature.
Fun, fun,
Randy

[wantomake]

Indeed she is.

Careful,
The 3BGS is a jealous lady. You've been talking to those OTHER threads. If you try it again with the new setup, you will never be able to see those other threads again!

Really, the drawing is in my signature.
Fun, fun,
Randy

Lol and long,
Randy as soon as my feet touch SC soil, they'll carry me to my first love, the Lockridge device. My second is the 3BGS , and she may yet steal me away. Wow, what wonderful progress with this new setup.

We leave Osaka for Okinawa tomorrow(your Sunday) Monday and will be there for three weeks. Wife's brother wants to see this 3BGS, if he can find the bad batteries then I'll share her addictive love with him. Dave hope it's ok to share your "lady" here in Japan .And yes the first taste is free. After that you'll pay with all have. But look at what we gain in return.

Yes she calls to us,
wantomake

[Turion]

Randy,
The link has disappeared from your signature.

I got four coils wound for the generator today. I actually ended up driving up to my place up north at 6:00 this morning to check on some trees that the well drilling company said had to come out. I wanted to make sure they weren't any of the important ones. So while I was waiting around, I wound 4 coils. Can't wait to get them mounted and connected. While I was there I dropped into my home away from home....the Casino. I was there for just under two hours and after tipping out the guys at the craps table, walked away with exactly 200 more than I came with. That brings my total winnings at that place up to 2400. Every time I need money for parts, that's where I go.

My batteries are well on the way to being conditioned for the test for Skeptic. Since part of the conditioning process is charging and discharging them, I thought I would take specific gravity readings on the cells every time I charge them up, so we would have an "average" of the condition of the cells in the battery. I am keeping good notes.

Tomorrow I will fix the issue of the coupling between my one good Razor Scooter motor and the generator. That will take me some time. But since it is the only working motor I have right now, I need to get that coupling fixed. Looks like I have two pulse motors that aren't working well for whatever reason and two off the shelf motors, one of which is drawing way too many amps, and the other one which won't turn. These are motors I got on ebay, so not NEW, and you get what you pay for.

I'm ready to rewind a bunch of motors Randy!! I could try out some different things and different sizes of wire.

Dave

[Duncan]

and the sleeping ones!

Welcome to the club. Now your done for. Once you experience it, like you have, there's no going back. It consumes my every waking moment.
Take Care,
Randy

There is all sorts of research building and experimentation at various levels going on. I did include a post that has caused some shock waves on a sub atomic level. I Intend to expand on that and posit explanations as far as possible, for those who followed the concept of the bridge, impedance matching , the PMH and EL magnetics I picture this …

Oh but first let me clear this up for any musicians lest you miss understand me … your understanding of harmonics and overtones is false , The scale and scribe of music has been altered for “best fit” this was done by Isaac Newton in regard of matching church bells, quite apart if music followed the harmony of the universe effectively a total keyboard would be required for every octave
nature has no such restrictions the universe is analogue and musical and she opts to play the full majesty of the spectrum from finite to infinite the harmonics and overtones never separate. But by our interference. Here EPD tells you much the same and probably better than I

The Science of Music by Eric Dollard (3 of 12) - YouTube

A brief study of quarze crystals will show you that in nature things faithfully follow overtones and harmonics naturally

http://www.northcountryradio.com/PDFs/070302007.pdf

having cleared that up (I hope) consider electricity then is made of two basic components one clock wise and one anti clockwise you can see them both in these animations

LEEDSKALNIN.COM: MAGNETIC CURRENT RESEARCH

In practice the separation is never perfect it seems the whim of nature to use the infinite and infinitesimal . One of those waves is harmonic and the other is overtones.
Any content that is not harmonic or overtone is a equal mix of the two which I see as chaos.
Find any two magnets hold one above the other on a piece of string poles opposing, can it stay still?
Obviously not, it moves to the periphery can it stay there obviously not . Its movement is chaotic ??
have I also introduced you to perpetual motion ? .. That would be another story.
For the 3BGS to work then (well any system) because since the last bombshell many of you start to see how other systems work these two components the clockwise and anti clockwise … the harmonics and the overtones the parallel and the series resonant have to be separated . It is in a convoluted way the series resonant wave that is working this miracle, It is the magnetic effect you are tuning but the other two arms of the bridge are automatically tuning the electrostatic element.
That is each battery cell is a tuned resonant antenna to the linear ground wave.
That Incidentally is why the source and supply batteries needs to be the same type and size .. they are effectively matched antenna's. A little more on that in a moment..

Of course Randy's drawing of the extra battery immediately formed the picture of the Wheatstone Bridge. For any who are not familiar with the wheat stone bridge this is basically what it does
and how it worked, Its very important that you take a little time to grasp this concept! an unknown quantity could be inserted into any of the positions A,D or C the variable B was then adjusted to a point where the meter read zero. I hope this rough sketch explains it for you .



At that point the product of AB and the Product of CD must be identical and the unknown discovered by transposition so I hope you get the gist of that … the whole thing is interdependent and relative . The reason this is so very important to grasp is because it lets us understand feel and control the unknowns that have plagued us for 83 pages

Next comes Randy's circuit that has Improved things out of all recognition



Here is Randys circuit again I have simply re – drawn it as a bridge and omitted the pancake (I don’t like pancakes or red herrings)



I hope the mist clears a little for you now …. the balance occurs for us when maximum energy is transferred to the buffer battery load and inverter.
The source is both the linear wave magnetic (Telluric current) and the linear wave electro static
There is only one side of this bridge that its possible to engineer at the moment and that’s the side we understand … however it is obviously a mirror image of the other side … The hounds at last have the fox in full sight and on the run!
Perhaps you see now why I was trying so hard to get a ground connection on the other side of the bridge …. looking at it now I can't see why I didn't just put it there.
Anyway we know a few things of this Wheatstone bridge of ours maximum energy flows into the buffer /load .. this is when the bridge is balanced !
If the machine is fully “In the zone “ then the source batteries lose no charge or if they do its extremely slowly and the readings are difficult to obtain anyway .
This state is normal engineering and Its called parallel resonance … we know all about it .. we can plot map and alter it .. its predictable ! We can use it to be at the other side which we have not been schooled in .. which tptb have been at such pains to hide obfuscate and keep from humanity for so long in order to do filth and evil …. so lets turn our attention there immediately !

We now have one side of the bridge that we know must be resonant so the other side of the bridge must be what ??? come boys and girls shout out …. louder .. Anti resonant there's a concept isn’t it ?is there such a thing ? Yes of course the stinking Banksters use it all the time to control and predict your actions … they call it “stochastic resonance” In the electrical world of free energy such huge Giant's as “Hector D Perez Torres” a man who commands my very highest respect use the term quite correctly, Hector and that skilled team would have got this story out long ago but for the murder , burning and forced unemployment of the members who “dared to loop” and display



electrically this term stochastic resonance does not exist … or rather its been hidden from us obfuscated and not taught .. the reason is it delivers freedom …. not just free energy it lets you see straight away who is oppressing and ruling this world and how very close they are to reducing it to a hellish midden.

Back to our friend Edward Leedskalnin and the two components of electricity .. we wish to divide them, one is harmonic and responds to a parallel resonant situation the other is overtones and responds to a series resonant situation the one situation is obviously forced by virtue of the other .. it being a “Wheatstone bridge” It should be a situation grasped easily by Radio Hams they have used the very same bridge to tune their antenna's for over a hundred years .. only they have used it to tune to transverse electricity and have been kept well away from tuning to the linear wave .
Here is the standing wave ratio bridge (standing wave ratio = resonance meter) .. they of course tune to exactly the wrong resonance .. they would, they have been trained to just like .. Pavlov's dogs. It seems they are unable to see or do anything else. Their “matching Impedance” is obviously
exactly the reverse of what we require .. its very low typically 50 ohms It follows and is the case that our matching impedance should be very high .. Indeed infinite if you can comprehend such a concept … This then was the state of tuning of Wardenclyffe Tower and Bolinas Radio it is the resonant state the huge Alexanderson towers transmitted with ease around the world with telluric assisted ground wave .. It is however the same circuit …. you are tuning the same thing …. you are tuning it the same way you are however at the other end of the scale !!!!
this is your bridge in its Sunday best … this

Three pairs of 100 Ohm resistors those are combined in a bridge circuit, with the load as the fourth resistor.
Is from here ...

Simple Wideband SWR Meter | Circuit Diagram

having hacked through some of the lies .. pointed out to you all loud and clear the magnetic action here's the electrostatic content of “stochastic resonance” how to get hold of it and how to tune it.
Any Radio Ham will tell you a SWR of 1 is impossible they strive for it but of course its always just out of reach. Incidentally if one extreme of the SWR meter is marked infinity what should the other extreme be marked ? Yeah of course ….... but they mark it 1 which is a very different proposition.
Certain to confuse. So to put this a simply as I may so that all will understand … The electricity is separated into two half’s .. harmonic and overtone by resonant action …. ergo what isn't a harmonic is an overtone and visa versa .. This state … if you wish to view it like this … leaves a Vacuum
which is effectively your buffer battery inverter and load in the centre of the bridge .
The system is now living singing dancing proof of the phrase “energy from the vacuum”
The electro – static portion of the linear wave is able to react with each cell as a resonant cavity.
That is why the batteries need to be the same type size and shape …. you are impedance matching across a Wheatstone bridge … you are tuning a battery antenna to receive the bounty of the linear wave . resonant to a 1/4 wave
There is of course more and more to this wonderful force but I move as fast as I may and I really want you to understand and grasp what I portray … to follow is the x6 frequency Separation and its Inverse which is naturally forced on the other side of the bridge …. alternative methods for generating waveforms rich in stochastic content , totally automatic resonance.
You may not understand much of what I write here .. don't worry you will , it will nag you subconscious , And very particularly if you are near a machine running a linear wave the answer's will be shouted at you … It is perhaps the thing that frightens tptb more than anything else … you can see them and understand them , they know their days are numbered ! Tesla was well aware he referred to it as Telle – force, you may view it as second sight or telepathy, very quickly if your motives are pure you will grasp … Telle – force and Tesla is spoken of here ….

https://vimeo.com/19577546

[Duncan]

oh dear .. just to give you an Idea my friend

consider this … hows your high school maths ?
What is the difference betwixt a sine wave and a cosine wave ?
If you looked at one then t'other on your oscilloscope independently .. what difference?
Forget the introduced reference of time or angular velocity (spin ?) what is the physical difference?
They look the same to you ? It support of this starving nephew of Wheatstone his heroic support of Tesla, his objection to Albert, Morgan, tptb and the filth they have introduced I quote again

There is no absolute scale of size in the Universe, for it is boundless towards the great and also boundless towards the small. Oliver Heaviside



the sine wave wave is the infinite residue of the infinitesimal and the cosine wave is the infinitesimal residue of the infinite … one is harmonic the other overtone to cleanly cleave those two controls all . … 3... 5...6....7...9 oh .. I forgot to mention the universe and creation might love music .. might use the full range infinitesimal to infinite but base 10 she doesn't do (except in your hearing for some odd reason) a'la decibel .log 10.
friends may wonder what scale or where the overtones are … in pairs of course as is husband and wife side by side . You may see a sine wave and a cosine wave as identical on your oscilloscope but the composition under the arc is entirley different . A simple pictorial representation might be like so



of course no one has ever seen electricicy and this is just a rough interpretation of what I perceive EL is saying and how a harmonics and overtones relate , the Sine and co-sine become an irrelevence to because of course with resonance as with Radio transmitters ans antenna there is a perceived 90 deg phase shift …. never the less I hope you get the drift …. the very composition of electricity (excuse the pun) is overtones and harmonics . For ever and ever Amen equal yet opposite
hence anti phase with the armature action then resonant . Of course I don't know which component is spinning which way just that EL says it is so and all seems to fit

[Turion]

One of the folks who is pretty skeptical of what we are doing sent me this, and I thought it might be worth a try as a means of testing and seeing what we really have.

"Roughly monitor the voltage on each battery using the CV control
voltage inputs on multiple CMOS NE555's one for each battery. Feed the digital AC into a capacitively coupled multiplexor to a computer controller like an Audino so that it can keep track of the voltage on each battery.

Then use the computer controller to reconfigure the circuit using latching relays
(which draw power only when being reconfiured) to discharge the excess energy into a headlamp load with high and low voltage setpoints. As the system
recharges itself the charge/discharge frequency will increase as the system
reaches maximum charge at which time the the load can be run for a very long
time to discharge the batteries to a nice low level. Then start the recycling
recharge again. Where is the excess energy to recharge the system coming
from?"

I think I will try and put this together. If nothing else, it will be a means of measure.
Dave

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Ossie callanan REAC, bad batteries in series

Hello, this setup is basicallly the same as ossie radiant charger back in 2007. In my opinion it is easier to control the output and the initial condition of the ''bad battery'' by putting several in series to obtain an higher reactive power (voltage without current). We want to charge ''good batteries'' in the output side with the ''bad batteries'' in parralel because of the dipole effect (radiant antenna and converter).

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...49784469,d.dmg

[Matthew Jones]

One of the folks who is pretty skeptical of what we are doing sent me this, and I thought it might be worth a try as a means of testing and seeing what we really have.

"Roughly monitor the voltage on each battery using the CV control
voltage inputs on multiple CMOS NE555's one for each battery. Feed the digital AC into a capacitively coupled multiplexor to a computer controller like an Audino so that it can keep track of the voltage on each battery.

Then use the computer controller to reconfigure the circuit using latching relays
(which draw power only when being reconfiured) to discharge the excess energy into a headlamp load with high and low voltage setpoints. As the system
recharges itself the charge/discharge frequency will increase as the system
reaches maximum charge at which time the the load can be run for a very long
time to discharge the batteries to a nice low level. Then start the recycling
recharge again. Where is the excess energy to recharge the system coming
from?"

I think I will try and put this together. If nothing else, it will be a means of measure.
Dave

David thats overkill. You can use an ADC either an on board to the audrino or any IC. You already have a propeller. You'll have to use multiple ADC's though separately grounded or use Inductive isolators. There are several ADC's chips setup for AC or DC.

I can give you details. This is all can be accomplished with your scope even easier. Typical Skeptic BS... They always try to run you ragged, and put goals for you to follow that do not make sense. Remember that it will save you some time in the future.

Matt

[Turion]

Ossie Callanan? Nope

CrystalDipoleMatrix,

Having built both setups, I respectfully disagree. Ossie's setup does pull in some power and is great for charging batteries, but it is SEVERELY limited in the AMOUNT of power it will pull in. Yes, you will get some high voltage spikes....the same kind you get with a Bedini setup.

With the 3 BGS, the power you can get is limited only by the size of the motor you are using. And because the motor runs so much more efficiently (since the generated energy of the motor does not fight back against the input energy, but exits the motor with it) you get high performance out of whatever motor you choose to use. I believe that because of the WAY we run the motor in this setup (between two positives or between two negatives) we are able to do something Peter said was impossible in the Electric Motor Secrets DVD, which is extract the generated energy out of an off the shelf motor without rewiring it. Then you balance the load on the motor with a load on the inverter, and you get POWER out of this system. I have run HUGE loads on the 3BGS and was able to balance them. I could not run those same loads on Ossie's setup. It does not produce that amount of energy. Which is why I spend my time working on the 3BGS INSTEAD of on Ossie's setup. But don't take my word for it, build them yourself.

Maybe I'm all wrong about this, but there are some other folks here who I know have built both setups. I'm sure they have an opinion on this topic.

Randy's modified version has yet to be tested with really large loads, but it is so much easier to keep in balance than the original setup was. I have really high hopes for it.

Matt,
Thanks for that info. That's good advice. Have you got a modified setup running yet? Was gonna call you and ask about that but have been busy. Maybe tomorrow I will get a chance if you are around.

Dave

[Matthew Jones]

No I haven't got it up and running yet. Running a my batts through the Mill with my charger to get them peaked out a bit. I have got all the cables made and place to set it up.

I'll probably work on those batteries till next weekend and see where they are. They sat around a lot so they need a little love.

I can give you a basic ADC setup if you need it. We'll talk though.

I'll be in and out tomorrow till evening my time.

Matt

[Turion]

I'm babysitting my god son all day tomorrow, so trapped in a room with a small child. Any adult conversation would be appreciated. LOL

So I will be logged on here all day since I can't really work on anything. Taking a motor with me to disassemble and will work on doing some rewinding of that.

My "Matt" pulse motor is working...thought it wasn't, but my UFO pulse motor is not. Would like to have those both running so I can try them out running the Gen when I get it done. I got four coils all wound and have four more coming in the mail Lots of wire stuff to work on.

Having a hard time finding empty bobbins the right size for winding coils on. I used to have a link for a place,but can't find it anymore. Thought I had a bookmark, but apparently not!

Dave

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

CrystalDipoleMatrix,

Having built both setups, I respectfully disagree. Ossie's setup does pull in some power and is great for charging batteries, but it is SEVERELY limited in the AMOUNT of power it will pull in. Yes, you will get some high voltage spikes....the same kind you get with a Bedini setup.

With the 3 BGS, the power you can get is limited only by the size of the motor you are using. And because the motor runs so much more efficiently (since the generated energy of the motor does not fight back against the input energy, but exits the motor with it) you get high performance out of whatever motor you choose to use. I believe that because of the WAY we run the motor in this setup (between two positives or between two negatives) we are able to do something Peter said was impossible in the Electric Motor Secrets DVD, which is extract the generated energy out of an off the shelf motor without rewiring it. Then you balance the load on the motor with a load on the inverter, and you get POWER out of this system. I have run HUGE loads on the 3BGS and was able to balance them. I could not run those same loads on Ossie's setup. It does not produce that amount of energy. Which is why I spend my time working on the 3BGS INSTEAD of on Ossie's setup. But don't take my word for it, build them yourself.

Maybe I'm all wrong about this, but there are some other folks here who I know have built both setups. I'm sure they have an opinion on this topic.

Randy's modified version has yet to be tested with really large loads, but it is so much easier to keep in balance than the original setup was. I have really high hopes for it.

Matt,
Thanks for that info. That's good advice. Have you got a modified setup running yet? Was gonna call you and ask about that but have been busy. Maybe tomorrow I will get a chance if you are around.

Dave

Thanks for the quick reply. I've built the callanan setup this evening and yeah you're right. I will not spend my time anymore on this. Have you tried to series some bad batteries to see if it does something special or it's better stick to the one 3rd positon bad battery on your setup? Thanks, jean

[Turion]

Jean,
Yes, I have tried a couple different combinations of Ossie's setup plus parts of the 3BGS. Adding more bad batteries in series and also in parallel were some of the things I tried.

Right now the most effective setup is Randy's on pg 78. Scroll down and you will see it. We have been calling it the modified 3BGS, even though it uses 5 batteries instead of 3. To tune it watch the voltage on the buffer battery. You have to be able to add loads to the motor AND battery 3 to tune the setup, but once it is balanced, it just puts out power. You'll see. So you need a motor you can put a load on and an inverter or lots of 12 volt things to hook up to the buffer battery. Any questions I can answer, let me know. I will be here for a while tonight, and all day tomorrow. I would advise reading everything between page 78 and here, as well as ALL of post #1.

Dave