3 Battery Generating System

[Matthew Jones]

Would you like to see KVA = KVAR in your home?

Pray!!! Real soon!!!

Matt

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

How to make it stable and repeatable every time

Thank you guys for all your insights on this very strange behavior, aka COP >1 system. The next thing now is to be able to keep this energy conversion/generation system very basic and to focus on more voltage imput (batteries in series), a bigger pulse generator (maybe upgrading the motor part or make a rotoverter out of it) and the most important: understanding what's happening in a ''good'' bad battery. The chemistery involving inside this beast. Almost all free energy suppression was about a pulse motor or some motor conversion and lead-acid batteries. I think I understand the battery part. THE CASIMIR EFFECT. Pressure building between two plates that generates unlimited energy from the vacuum space. Dipolarity. The negative plate is a static north pole and the positive, a south pole. In between, the crystal formation (hard sulfation galena crystals are the pressure source. The blochwall. Multiple vortex system opens up and the cosmic energy is free to flow in a spiral fashion (schuman frequency) when stress (high voltage spikes) is applied to the plates. The question is how to keep a system stable and balanced when we know that energy in the universe is a complete chaos. Fibonacci number. Creating order out of chaos. Walter Russell. It's really hard to believe but nature is a very complex thing, beautiful but complex. Electricity out of natures curve. Very, very interesting. I hope you will find how to open this big door Dave and Matt. Duncan's too and many many more guys on this forum and community.

[Turion]

The system can be held stable by balancing the loads which is done by watching the voltage on the buffer battery. From time to time I STILL get voltage increases in transducer 2, which is NOT GOOD, but have still gotten really long runs with this thing, and we WILL figure it out. The thing is, NOW everyone who tries it can SEE what we are talking about.

Dave

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

I have some questions about the motor part. Do I just can make a pulse motor with some 18-24 awg wire coils and play with a rotary spark gap to see better effect or just sticking with a basic brushed dc motor? Thanks.
Jean

[Turion]

Any brushed DC motor will work.

[tachyoncatcher]

Absolutely

Thank you guys for all your insights on this very strange behavior, aka COP >1 system. The next thing now is to be able to keep this energy conversion/generation system very basic and to focus on more voltage imput (batteries in series), a bigger pulse generator (maybe upgrading the motor part or make a rotoverter out of it) and the most important: understanding what's happening in a ''good'' bad battery. The chemistery involving inside this beast. Almost all free energy suppression was about a pulse motor or some motor conversion and lead-acid batteries. I think I understand the battery part. THE CASIMIR EFFECT. Pressure building between two plates that generates unlimited energy from the vacuum space. Dipolarity. The negative plate is a static north pole and the positive, a south pole. In between, the crystal formation (hard sulfation galena crystals are the pressure source. The blochwall. Multiple vortex system opens up and the cosmic energy is free to flow in a spiral fashion (schuman frequency) when stress (high voltage spikes) is applied to the plates. The question is how to keep a system stable and balanced when we know that energy in the universe is a complete chaos. Fibonacci number. Creating order out of chaos. Walter Russell. It's really hard to believe but nature is a very complex thing, beautiful but complex. Electricity out of natures curve. Very, very interesting. I hope you will find how to open this big door Dave and Matt. Duncan's too and many many more guys on this forum and community.

You have the essence of it. Now built it. This is the garage version which is simple to build. Your replication will astound you and push you forward. The more minds that are brought into the awareness of this, the closer we are to the indisputable reality of it. Build, build, build.
Good Luck,
Randy

PS Matt, you nailed it on the dead battery chemistry. How anyone could argue we are pulling power from a chemical dipole with no chemical potential is beyond me. Maybe they're saying we are creating cold fusion with only 12-16 volts? Boy, we're good.

[Duncan]

Thank you guys for all your insights on this very strange behavior, aka COP >1 system. The next thing now is to be able to keep this energy conversion/generation system very basic and to focus on more voltage imput (batteries in series), a bigger pulse generator (maybe upgrading the motor part or make a rotoverter out of it) and the most important: understanding what's happening in a ''good'' bad battery. The chemistery involving inside this beast. Almost all free energy suppression was about a pulse motor or some motor conversion and lead-acid batteries. I think I understand the battery part. THE CASIMIR EFFECT. Pressure building between two plates that generates unlimited energy from the vacuum space. Dipolarity. The negative plate is a static north pole and the positive, a south pole. In between, the crystal formation (hard sulfation galena crystals are the pressure source. The blochwall. Multiple vortex system opens up and the cosmic energy is free to flow in a spiral fashion (schuman frequency) when stress (high voltage spikes) is applied to the plates. The question is how to keep a system stable and balanced when we know that energy in the universe is a complete chaos. Fibonacci number. Creating order out of chaos. Walter Russell. It's really hard to believe but nature is a very complex thing, beautiful but complex. Electricity out of natures curve. Very, very interesting. I hope you will find how to open this big door Dave and Matt. Duncan's too and many many more guys on this forum and community.

Hi again Jean .. this is one of those threads where just at this moment in time the theory and principle is leading the prowess of the experiment , The dedication of the main players here is absolute … The theory and each stage is known to such a degree we can look the assassins in the eye's , we knew they would be there … they are.
I write and think of this effect constantly day and night Jean …. I write on here dog tired , drunk or sober , In short this project takes priority, to the "any brushed motor" I would add probably .. the smaller and faster the better. As for your previous experiences in free energy Jean … Kiss this frog .. you'll get a hansom prince .

[Turion]

We KNOW a pulsed motor works better, but a standard motor WILL work.

Dave

[Duncan]

quite right!

and as I said Jean if you use a standard motor ... the smaller and faster the better .. that’s been my experience anyway .. I had a battery starting to Ice in front of me using a tiny motor

[Mario]

Hi Dave and all,

I have a few yuasa 7Ah 12V batteries. Three are SG conditioned (inductive pulses) and two are sitting at very low voltage, one has a bad cell and the other one has been sitting for years, anyway I just shorted them for a few days, now they show like 5V but immediately drop to almost zero when the slightest load is applied.
I was thinking of using them as transducers, and the good conditioned ones as primaries and buffer battery.
Are these gel cell batts suitable for the 3BGS or should I not even bother? I also have two 12Ah varta motorcycle batts but somehow they work at a lower voltage (even with SG can't get them over 14.5 V even though they're almost new).

I have two Johnson motors (shaft coupled) that are quite fast and a small inverter to load the buffer battery. Let's say my buffer batt sits at 12.80 unloaded, should I aim to keep it at that voltage by balancing the loads?

thanks guys,
Mario

[citfta]

An idea for a stable system

Hi guys,

I want to throw out for your consideration an idea for a stable system. I will keep this discussion related to the original 3 battery system for now as that will make the idea easier to follow. We know that we have to keep the system balanced in order for the "magic" to happen where we can draw very large loads off the system.

What are we doing when we balance the loads? We increase the load on the motor and then we increase the load on batt 3 until we get the system back in balance. But what is really happening? When we increase the load on the motor we are slowing it down. Now if all the theories about this system having to be in resonance to work are true then we have changed the pulse rate of the sparking of the brushes and thrown the system out of resonance. So we increase the load on batt 3 and that speeds the motor up until it gets back into resonance again. Maybe it is not the load on the motor but the speed of the motor that has to be right for the system to work.

A few posts back Matt posted a schematic of a way to test for resonance by replacing the motor with a mosfet and driving it with a variable frequency. If we do that and find the resonant frequency of the system could we then put any load we wanted on the third batt and not throw the system out of resonance? If it worked like that the we would have an easy way to keep the system balanced.

I am going to be really busy for the next full week and won't have time to try this idea but I wanted to throw it out there in case someone else had time to try it. It may be a totally useless idea but we won't know until we try it.

Later, Carroll

[Turion]

Carroll,
I've got a feeling that is what Matt is going to be trying when he gets his batteries all tuned up this weekend. But I won't forget. I just added it to my "gotta try this" list! LOL

Dave

[blackchisel97]

Hi guys,

I want to throw out for your consideration an idea for a stable system. I will keep this discussion related to the original 3 battery system for now as that will make the idea easier to follow. We know that we have to keep the system balanced in order for the "magic" to happen where we can draw very large loads off the system.

What are we doing when we balance the loads? We increase the load on the motor and then we increase the load on batt 3 until we get the system back in balance. But what is really happening? When we increase the load on the motor we are slowing it down. Now if all the theories about this system having to be in resonance to work are true then we have changed the pulse rate of the sparking of the brushes and thrown the system out of resonance. So we increase the load on batt 3 and that speeds the motor up until it gets back into resonance again. Maybe it is not the load on the motor but the speed of the motor that has to be right for the system to work.

A few posts back Matt posted a schematic of a way to test for resonance by replacing the motor with a mosfet and driving it with a variable frequency. If we do that and find the resonant frequency of the system could we then put any load we wanted on the third batt and not throw the system out of resonance? If it worked like that the we would have an easy way to keep the system balanced.

I am going to be really busy for the next full week and won't have time to try this idea but I wanted to throw it out there in case someone else had time to try it. It may be a totally useless idea but we won't know until we try it.

Later, Carroll

This idea makes a lot of sense Carroll and I've been trying this setup back when Matt posted first. However, I have a feeling that this setup may still be "load dependent" which means that adding load will require matching of frequency However, it doesn't have to be complicated to find a "sweet spot" for given load. Just a guess.

Vtech

[Matthew Jones]

This idea makes a lot of sense Carroll and I've been trying this setup back when Matt posted first. However, I have a feeling that this setup may still be "load dependent" which means that adding load will require matching of frequency However, it doesn't have to be complicated to find a "sweet spot" for given load. Just a guess.

Vtech

Here's the link to the circiut.

Loading the transformer electrically is probably an easier task than loading a motor mechanically for most people anyway. Also we cannot explore whats happening if you do not try to add control.
The switch may not be the key.

If we power the transformer continuous then pull power from it IE shorting that will introduce a ripple in the DC like a motor. Or we pulse the switch to drive the transformer and pull loads on the secondaries to ensure low impedance on the primaries then we have the means to control current.

In other words we have specific and more control over the wave forms that come out of the primaries.

A motor just gives you ripple in an overlapping fashion.

I am not trying to steer the group off, I just put it up because no one has posed the question as to the dependence in the system.

What is it we can do to AMP this thing UP..

I have told David my plans and if they work out then I'll share them. Most of you do not have $3000 worth of high amp batteries, not to mantion wire, transformers, Switch's and control systems laying around to try anything big. I do though so I am going to try big and see what works out if it works out at all.
But the thing could be done small to. But just looking at a small effect over and over rarely will get you to the true definition of whats happening.

Cheers
Matt

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Earth ground, telluric currents?

Just want to know what are your thoughts about using the earth ground with the system? Because I can tell you from experience that when I make an earth connection with the output of my 7 sw bands radio, I get crystal clear and louder reception all over the 7 bands than just raising an antenna out. Sometimes I hear some loud echo crakling and suddendly I hear some stations better and louder for extended periods of time before the effect vanish and come back stronger. How can this energy from radio stations can travel that far without be ionised by the sun ? I bet the magnetic currents flow in the earth but I'm just guessing here.

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