3 Battery Generating System

[Matthew Jones]

I think you have it wrong, Four separate batteries in a bank of series? If it is Tesla do you think that he will arrange it just like that?, but there are mention people use that 4 Battery Switch from the true master with great detail which is not a bank of series?.

LOOK AT THE PATENT Image Number 3, the schematic... Your imagining you know what Tesla did when the patent says clearly why he needed higher voltages and what the battery config was.

DUH..... It right there how can imagine something different.

I know how the Benitez machine worked I have one that functions with modern parts. Enough said.

Matt

[Turion]

ehsanco1062,
Here is the code and the schematic.
Sorry it took me all day!

Dave

[ehsanco1062]

ehsanco1062,
Here is the code and the schematic.
Sorry it took me all day!

Dave

Turion,

I am so sorry to make you spend all day to do that I thought that you have it on your PC and you will just gonna send it not draw it ,any way I appreciate that very much .
but I have a question about the schematic because I am not familiar with Arduino codes shouldn't the pulse came from Arduino came to the base of the transistor throw the resistor and the + of the series battery go to the collector and the negative of the bad battery to the emitter am I write ?
Thank you again

Ehsan

[Turion]

There is a Positive and a Negative on the Arduino Board. The Positive on the board goes to the Base of the Transistor and the Negative on the board to the Emitter. This is the circuit that is pulsed by the Arduino. It completes a second circuit between the Collector on the Transistor and the Emitter. I tied the Negative of the Power supply and the Negative of the Board to the Emitter. The Positive of the power supply goes to the Battery. When the Arduino pulses, the positive from the Power supply makes a circuit through the Battery to the Collector, which is connected to the Emitter by the completed circuit. This is the same Emitter which is tied to the NEg on the power supply, thus completing the circuit.

Perhaps I did it wrong, or there are better ways to do it. I could swear this was working, but then I may be completely wrong.

Dave

[ehsanco1062]

There is a Positive and a Negative on the Arduino Board. The Positive on the board goes to the Base of the Transistor and the Negative on the board to the Emitter. This is the circuit that is pulsed by the Arduino. It completes a second circuit between the Collector on the Transistor and the Emitter. I tied the Negative of the Power supply and the Negative of the Board to the Emitter. The Positive of the power supply goes to the Battery. When the Arduino pulses, the positive from the Power supply makes a circuit through the Battery to the Collector, which is connected to the Emitter by the completed circuit. This is the same Emitter which is tied to the NEg on the power supply, thus completing the circuit.

Perhaps I did it wrong, or there are better ways to do it. I could swear this was working, but then I may be completely wrong.

Dave

I see what you mean I think your circuit is correct because in your drawing the muddle line of the transistor MJL should be the base but after your explanation I find that the line in the middle is emitter.
Thank you

Ehsan

[Turion]

On the MJL, (drawing) the bottom is base, the middle is collector and the top is emitter.
http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Colla...MJL21193-D.PDF

Dave

[ehsanco1062]

On the MJL, (drawing) the bottom is base, the middle is collector and the top is emitter.
http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Colla...MJL21193-D.PDF

Dave

You are wright it's my mistake

Ehsan

[ehsanco1062]

Hi Dave ,

Since I haven't receive any answer from the manufacture about those SLA battery I have so I decided to buy a new AGM battery and hopefully they will be here by tomorrow and they are both 12v 8ah I hope I will start killing them first by discharge them and then killing them by using your method using Arduino since Matt didn't post any instruction about using basic stamp to pulse the battery and the codes but I have only one question is about the schismatic you post does the emitter of the transistor connected to the. Negative of the power supply and the negative coming from the board ?


Ehsan

[Turion]

That's the way I have it wired and it seems to be working fine.Haven't used it in a few days, but I am about to spend some time on it as soon as I run some errands for my wife, so I will lwt you know if there is a problem with the schematic. I am going to pulse two batteries and then run them for the test for Skeptic that I haven't ever gotten around to.

Dave

[ZeroMassInertia]

Bubbling Chemistry

Mario posted a link to, Evert Rotor Tech, in( LOL ANOTHER OF THOSE) thread this is a exert from that link .
Bubbling Chemistry
Pulsating swinging of electrons at conductors exists (build up by ether-pressure) and some phase-shifted exists swinging of ions within battery. If all swinging motions would be resonant, naturally comes up stronger swinging, i.e. more energy is pushed into battery than ´originally´ available. These effects are well known, nevertheless are not absolutely steady resp. are not to reproduce continuously.
Swinging of electrons at conductors is relative steady to produce. Charges (or what´s called electrons) are swinging pattern in complete resonance with swinging of Free Ether. Current runs alongside conductors by light speed, at area of conductor´s surfaces, prevailingly outside of surface (´snake-like´ crawling of electrons within conductor´s material is only secondary appearance). Charges are motions of ether within Free Ether, dimensions of swinging are different, nevertheless by immediate harmonic resonance.
Totally different are relations of chemical processes between electrodes within acid of batteries. There motions of ions occur within ´thick soup´, ions have to move through accumulations of atoms and molecules larger by billions. Motions run far below light speed. These processes are not constant in time, results depend on many parameters. For example not all kind of batteries are usable, batteries actually show different voltages, processes phasewise run controversy, temperature of acid and thus normal molecular motions are changing, bubbles come up, transition of solid material into fluid (and vice versa) is no steady process, batteries of different ´age´ show different behaviour of materials etc

[Skeptic]

Mario posted a link to, Evert Rotor Tech, in( LOL ANOTHER OF THOSE) thread this is a exert from that link .
Bubbling Chemistry
Pulsating swinging of electrons at conductors exists (build up by ether-pressure) and some phase-shifted exists swinging of ions within battery. If all swinging motions would be resonant, naturally comes up stronger swinging, i.e. more energy is pushed into battery than ´originally´ available. These effects are well known, nevertheless are not absolutely steady resp. are not to reproduce continuously.
Swinging of electrons at conductors is relative steady to produce. Charges (or what´s called electrons) are swinging pattern in complete resonance with swinging of Free Ether. Current runs alongside conductors by light speed, at area of conductor´s surfaces, prevailingly outside of surface (´snake-like´ crawling of electrons within conductor´s material is only secondary appearance). Charges are motions of ether within Free Ether, dimensions of swinging are different, nevertheless by immediate harmonic resonance.
Totally different are relations of chemical processes between electrodes within acid of batteries. There motions of ions occur within ´thick soup´, ions have to move through accumulations of atoms and molecules larger by billions. Motions run far below light speed. These processes are not constant in time, results depend on many parameters. For example not all kind of batteries are usable, batteries actually show different voltages, processes phasewise run controversy, temperature of acid and thus normal molecular motions are changing, bubbles come up, transition of solid material into fluid (and vice versa) is no steady process, batteries of different ´age´ show different behaviour of materials etc

Why state the obvious?

[ehsanco1062]

That's the way I have it wired and it seems to be working fine.Haven't used it in a few days, but I am about to spend some time on it as soon as I run some errands for my wife, so I will lwt you know if there is a problem with the schematic. I am going to pulse two batteries and then run them for the test for Skeptic that I haven't ever gotten around to.

Dave

The circuit is quite right I test it today and it's working .i have received the AGM battery today and they are 12v 7.5Ah so I don't know how long it will take to discharge them both and I don't have the resistor you used to discharge the battery to zero so what alternative I have to do this task?

Ehsan

[tachyoncatcher]

Light Bulb

The circuit is quite right I test it today and it's working .i have received the AGM battery today and they are 12v 7.5Ah so I don't know how long it will take to discharge them both and I don't have the resistor you used to discharge the battery to zero so what alternative I have to do this task?

Ehsan

Hey Ehsan,
A light bulb of less wattage than the maximum rated output of the battery will work. Something like a auto headlight or dual filament tail light. This is what I have used in the past.
Good Luck,
Randy

[ehsanco1062]

Hey Ehsan,
A light bulb of less wattage than the maximum rated output of the battery will work. Something like a auto headlight or dual filament tail light. This is what I have used in the past.
Good Luck,
Randy

Hi Randy,

Thank you that's what I am intending to do to discharge the battery but does this decrease the voltage to zero whit out hooking a resistor across the positive and the negative of the battery, I think Matt mention it was 1ohm 50w if I am right .
But I will give a try and see what will be the result .

Ehsan

[Turion]

ehsanco1062,
You don't have to completely drain the battery to make a negative transducer out of it. I started with a battery at 11.7 volts and have it holding at -12.8 right now. As long as the power supply you have puts out greater voltage than the battery you are pulsing, it will work. You might want to put a diode between the poser source and the battery if it is at 11 volts so there is no "feedback. Pulse the Positive of the power supply to the negative of the battery.

Dave